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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:59 PM
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McKinney demands Atlanta Journal stop printing poll numbers??
Editor and Publisher is reporting Mckinney "is not suing The Atlanta Journal-Constitution for libel, contrary to a report in E&P yesterday. U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney has not filed suit against the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, according to attorney Tom Clyde, who is representing the paper."

However, a letter to the AJC from McKinney's lawyer accusing the AJC of libel has vanished from her website:

http://cynthiaforcongress.com/news.php?id=35

But the letter was quoted on several blogs:

http://anthony.gnn.tv/blogs/17153/McKinney_trailing?r=5
http://georgiaunfiltered.blogspot.com/2006/08/what-did-this-administration-know.html

But now BlackAmericaWeb is reporting McKinney said her attorney sent a letter to the newspaper demanding that the newspaper stop publishing poll stories that show Johnson in the lead!

http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/mckinney802
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:05 PM
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1. So if she loses the run off, will she demand they not print the results?
Of course, at this point, who know whether any of these stories are true/accurate.
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:26 PM
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18. omg
it could happen
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:32 PM
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2. Why do you campaign so hard against a fellow Democrat? nt.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:34 PM
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3. Funny question to ask...
Take a quick look (an that is all it will take), to see the number of threads out there campaigning hard against Hillary Clinton...

Looks to me like he is campaigning against one Democrat in favor of another...

I though that was ok in the primary...right ?


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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:37 PM
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4. or...
... the number of threads out there campaigning hard against Joe Lieberman or Evan Bayh or Mark Warner...
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:39 PM
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5. It is ok in the primary.
It is just that you and the OP are real big on not throwing stones against DLCtypes such as Hillary. Seems a bit disingenuous.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:43 PM
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6. So?
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 03:44 PM by wyldwolf
Isn't it disinginous for people here to excuse the bashing of Clinton or Lieberman or any DLC-type under the absurd notion that they're not Democrats?
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:47 PM
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7. So why do you relentlessly attack her?
Seriously, what's your beef?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:49 PM
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8. the same beef people who dislike Lieberman have ...
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 03:50 PM by wyldwolf
... I think she is bad for the party.

Again I ask, Isn't it disingenuous for people here to excuse the bashing of Clinton or Lieberman or any DLC-type under the absurd notion that they're not Democrats?
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:54 PM
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9. Well, you have a right to criticize, true.....
But as to "the absurd notion they are not Democrats" I say that anyone who is that familiar with George Bush's lips is most definately not a Democrat in my book. Your mileage may vary.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:59 PM
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11. "your book" is the operative words
taking money from with ties to Islamic militant groups, missing key votes on civil rights legislation, etc., weakens Dem credentials in my book.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:07 PM
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13. Not saying you're wrong
Not saying you're right either. I wasn't addressing your distaste for McKinney, in fact what I DID say was that you had a right to it if you chose. I was addressing your statement about critics of Lieberman et al.

Sucking face with the Neocon-in-Chief diminishes Dem credentials. In my book. Feel free to disagree.
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PeaceProgProsp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:27 PM
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19. Why do you think she's bad for the party?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:01 PM
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22. How is it an attack to bring up what has been reported?
Esp if it is documented?

Why does anyone have a beef with anyone around here? Because they have an opinion. I don't even mind a criticism of Kerry or someone I like if it is well documented and civilly presented.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:56 PM
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10. Correction...
I throw stones at unfair and ill-informed criticism...
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:07 PM
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12. Will you be throwing stones at post #11 above?
:shrug:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:08 PM
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14. If it is proven to be unfair and ill-founded...
But wyldwolf is pretty scrupulous about his research...I doubt it is unfair!

And if he is incorrect, he will be the first to admit it!
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:19 PM
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15. Islamic Militants? Not true
Your researcher needs to settle on one race-baiting catch phrase. Not the ever changing incendiary group posted over the last 3-4 days.

KEY votes on Civil Rights legislation. Not true It was a doomed to fail amendment, not something important like the BK bill a certain someone I know of missed out on.


I do know that a smart cookie like yourself will do a bit of research of your own.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:22 PM
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16. Yep I will...
But having seen wyldwolf's research vindicated time after time...I suspect I know what the outcome of that research will be...
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:25 PM
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17. If you say so.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:45 PM
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20. See how this vindication suits you.
snip

But when the House began voting on the afternoon of July 13, McKinney missed voting on the first amendment, offered by Rep. Charles Norwood (R-Ga.).

The House rejected Norwood’s amendment 96-318, (That is the doomed to fail part) as well as three other amendments; the bill passed 390-33. The Senate passed the measure 98-0.

Rep. Mel Watt (D-N.C.), chairman of the CBC, said focusing on a missed vote is “grasping at straws.”

Jackson Lee said she would continue to support McKinney


http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/072606/mckinney.html

Not that missing votes is a good thing ever, but one of your researcher's KEY point has now been proven to be false, at best. You go right ahead and hang your hat on the (KEY Legislation) rack if you need to.
Everyone else can see it for what it really is.

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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:20 PM
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24. See this is what troubles me
People criticize McKinney, and that's fine. That's their right.

The trouble is that they go miles out of their way to make her look bad, and do it in a disingenuous way. If she's really as bad as all that the facts should speak for themselves; there would be no need for exaggeration. That's just dishonest and I have no patience for it.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:26 PM
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27. there is no exaggeration. See post #25
LincolnMcgrath doesn't feel a "key vote" can be a vote on a very important amendment. He even omitted part of the article quote to conceal it.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 06:05 PM
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30. Like posting a racist video from Michele Malkin's personal hate group?
Stunning ain't it?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:24 PM
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25. LOL! right
I said she missed a key vote.

You said she missed voting on the first amendment.

Did she miss a vote? Yes she did.

And what part of the passage above did you omit?

The one describing what the vote was on:

McKinney missed voting on the first amendment, offered by Rep. Charles Norwood (R-Ga.). His amendment would have made it easier for some areas to change their voting laws without approval from the Department of Justice (DoJ) while requiring new areas to get the government’s permission.

And while other black lawmakers stated what an honor it was to be on the floor debating it with a true civil right leader, belatedly arrived on the House floor looking flustered shortly after voting on Norwood’s amendment had ended, a lawmaker who saw her said.



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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 06:33 PM
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33. See post #25 via post #27...nt
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 06:54 PM
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35. Everyone else can see it for what it really is.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 06:58 PM
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36. See post #17..nt
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:00 PM
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37. If that is the type of 'researcher' you want to hitch your wagon to,
don't let us stop you. :shrug:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:25 PM
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26. is the same true for the "research" he posted from Michelle Malkin?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:28 PM
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28. that was a video clip. Your bud LincolnMcGrath quotes Boortz...
...as the sole source for his "research."
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 06:12 PM
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32. That's OK, you can rest assured that week from now, We'll hear "You
can't prove I ever posted that!" :eyes:

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 06:43 PM
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34. I used to like those threads
I wish he still took that tone instead of what I've seen happening recently. Seems pointlessly inflammatory at times.

But then it's typical internet stuff I suppose. Bound to happen to the best of them sooner or later.

However, it would be nice if we could manage a civil discussion around here. Neither side seems terribly intent on that idea though.
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illumn8d Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:13 PM
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38. Yeah, it's like watching the debate on Monday
Yay, internet.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:16 PM
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23. Is true
While you argue semantics on whether "Islamic militant" means "terorrorist" and demand I settle on one phrase to use, those of us in the real world know the score.

We'll start with Rafeeq Jaber – president, Islamic Association for Palestine, a Hamas offshoot, who donated $1000. to the McKinney campaign in 2004.

http://herndon2.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00256354/124538/sa/ALL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Association_of_Palestine


Ayman Osman - member, board of directors, Islamic Academy of Florida, Tampa; employer of Hatem Fariz, arrested on terrorism charges and charged with being a member of Palestinian Islamic Jihad. Donated $2000.

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/02/25/Hernando/Al_Arian__doctor_had_.shtml
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:58 PM
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21. The same can be said about those who campaign so hard to oust Lieberman
Just sayin'.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:57 AM
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40. And I agree and I know exactly why I think Lieberman should be gone.
So I continue to ask why the OP is so determinedly against this Democrat.

I am against Lieberman primarily because of his position on the Iraq war, his open support of the Bush administration, and his categorization of all criticism of the Bush administrations war policies (until yesterday that is) as unpatriotic.

So why exactly are we supposed to vote against McKinney?

And no, the OP is not just posting information, he is posting the opposition information intended to damage the candidate. The OP has not disagreed that he is opposed to McKinney.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:29 PM
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29. Sometimes I feel embarrassed for her.
Sad.
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 06:07 PM
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31. Sounds about par for the course. What an embarrassment.
...let's hope we get Johnson in that seat.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:52 PM
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39. By the way, the news about the Greens and Dog Sex Ricky
makes me wonder anew about her "campaign website" and whether or not McKinney is a Republican dirty trick as well.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2746494

Remember, she once threatened to join the Green party.
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