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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:56 AM
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Pombo staffer: Send CT to Gitmo
“Connecticut should have its statehood taken away from it. The foolishness of its pampered residents should be demonstrated to others by a government program to bulldoze the entire state, salt the land and construct a windfarm to supply NYC with electricity. And its residents should be relocated to Guantanamo Bay where they can take a number behind the 3 who hung themselves this weekend, since they seem so intent on suicide.”
-- Daniel Kish, a senior adviser to Pombo, in an email

In fairness, he was upset over a Connecticut editorial that was opposed to ANWR drilling. You know how irritating that can be.

http://www.dccc.org/stakeholder/archives/005101.html

:wtf: Put CT residents in line to hang themselves?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:01 PM
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1. Pombo and his staff seem to have a near pathological hatred of nature
they are America's #1 eco terrorists, and they need to GO!
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:04 PM
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2. Isn`t that a terroristic statement?
Seems like DHS should look into this guy!!
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:13 PM
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3. I hate McCloskey lost, but at least he endorsed the Democratic
Party candidate.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:37 PM
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7. Did you read Pete's open letter? WOW!
The following is an open letter from former Republican Congressman and Presidential candidate Pete McCloskey.


THE NEED FOR A DEMOCRAT MAJORITY IN THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IN 2007



I have found it difficult in the past several weeks to reach a conclusion as to what a citizen should do with respect to this fall’s forthcoming congressional elections. I am a Republican, intend to remain a Republican, and am descended from three generations of California Republicans, active in Merced and San Bernardino Counties as well as in the San Francisco Bay Area. I have just engaged in an unsuccessful effort to defeat the Republican Chairman of the House Resources Committee, Richard Pombo, in the 11th Congressional District Republican primary, obtaining just over 32% of the Republican vote against Pombo's 62%.

The observation of Mr. Pombo’s political consultant, Wayne Johnson, that I have been mired in the obsolete values of the 1970s, honesty, good ethics and balanced budgets, all rejected by today’s modern Republicans, is only too accurate.

It has been difficult, nevertheless, to conclude as I have, that the Republican House leadership has been so unalterably corrupted by power and money that reasonable Republicans should support Democrats against DeLay-type Republican incumbents in 2006. Let me try to explain why.

I have decided to endorse Jerry McNerney and every other honorable Democrat now challenging those Republican incumbents who have acted to protect former Majority Leader Tom DeLay, who have flatly reneged on their Contract With America promise in 1994 to restore high standards of ethical behavior in the House and who have combined to prevent investigation of the Cunningham and Abramoff/Pombo/DeLay scandals. These Republican incumbents have brought shame on the House, and have created a wide-spread view in the public at large that Republicans are more interested in obtaining campaign contributions from corporate lobbyists than they are in legislating in the public interest.

At the outset, let me say that in four months of campaigning I have learned that Jerry McNerney is an honorable man and that Richard Pombo is not. Mr. Pombo has used his position and power to shamelessly enrich his wife and family from campaign funds, has interfered with the federal investigation of men like Michael Hurwitz, he of the Savings & Loan frauds and ruthless clear-cutting of old growth California redwoods. Mr. Pombo has taken more money from Indian gaming lobbyist Jack Abramoff, his associates and Indian tribes interested in gaming than any other Member of Congress, in excess of $500,000. With his stated intent to gut the Endangered Species and Environmental Protection Acts, to privatize for development millions of acres of public land, including a number of National Parks, to give veto power to the Congress over constitutional decisions of the Supreme Court, his substantial contributions to DeLay’s legal defense fund, and most particularly his refusal to investigate the Abramoff involvement in Indian gaming and the exploitation of women labor in the Marianas, both matters within the jurisdiction of his committee, Mr. Pombo in my view represents all that is wrong with the national government in Washington today.

It is clear that the forthcoming campaign will be a vicious one, with Mr. Pombo willing to stretch the truth as he has in the past with respect to the elderberry beetle, levee breaks, his steadfast opposition to veterans’ health care, including prosthetics research for amputees from Iraq and other wars, the impact on Marine lives of endangered species protection at Camp Pendleton and other issues. That Mr. Pombo lied in testimony to the Senate in 1994 is an accepted fact. He testified that the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service had designated his farm near Tracy as habitat for the endangered California kit fox. This was untrue, and Pombo admitted to the untruthfulness a few months later when questioned over public television, an agency for which he recently voted to cut federal funds.
Such a man should not be allowed to be in charge of the nation’s public lands and waterways, a position to which he was elevated by the now-departed Tom DeLay.

Some 18 months ago, my former law partner, Lewis Butler, an Assistant Secretary of HEW in the Nixon Administration and subsequently the distinguished Chair of California Tomorrow and the Plowshares Foundation, and I initiated an effort we called The Revolt of the Elders. All of us were retired and in the latter years of Social Security entitlement. Most of us were Republicans who had served in the Congress or in former Republican administrations with men like Gerry Ford, John Rhodes, Bob Michel, Elliot Richardson, Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan and the president’s father, George H. W. Bush, all men of impeccable integrity and ethics.

We had become appalled at the House Republican leadership’s decision in early 2005 to effectively emasculate the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct by changing the rules to protect Majority Leader Tom DeLay. DeLay had been admonished three times by the Committee for abuse of power and unethical conduct. It was our hope to persuade Speaker Hastert and the Republican leadership, of which Northern California Congressman Richard Pombo and John Doolittle were prominent members, to rescind the rules changes and to act in accord with the promise of high ethical standards contained in Speaker Gingrich’s Contract With America which brought the Republicans majority control in 1994. We failed. Letters to the Speaker from an increasing number of former Republican Members were ignored and remained unanswered. Then, only a few weeks ago, the House leadership refused to allow even a vote on what could have become an effective independent ethics monitor. Instead of repudiating the infamous “Pay to Playâ€ù program put in place by DeLay to extract maximum corporate campaign contributions to “Retain Our Majority Partyâ€ù (ROMP), DeLay’s successor as Majority Leader called for a continuance of the free luxury airline trips, mammoth campaign contributions to the so-called “Leadership PACsâ€ù and the continuing stalemate on the Ethics Committee. Strangely, even after the guilty pleas of Abramoff, Duke Cunningham and a number of former House staffers who had been sent to work for Abramoff and other lobbyists. The Republican House leaders don’t see this as corruption worthy of investigation or change. That their former staff members and Abramoff were granted preference in access to the legislative process is not seen as a problem if it helps Republicans retain control of the House. It reminds one of the contentions of Haldeman and Ehrlichman long ago that the national security justified wire-tapping and burglary of Ellsberg’s psychiatrist’s office and the Democratic National Headquarters at the Watergate. Republicans are happy with this new corporate lobby/House complex, which is far more dangerous that the Industry/Defense complex we were long ago warned about by President Eisenhower.

I have therefore reluctantly concluded that party loyalty should be set aside, and that it is in the best interests of the nation, and indeed the future of the Republican Party itself, to return control of the House to temporary Democrat control, if only to return the House for a time to the kind of ethics standards practiced by Republicans in former years. I say reluctantly, having no great illusion that Democrats or any other kind of politician will long resist the allure of campaign funds and benefits offered by the richest and most profitable of the Halliburtons, oil companies, tobacco companies, developers and Indian gaming tribes whose contributions so heavily dominate the contributions to Congressmen Pombo and Doolittle.

As an aside, it seems to me that the Abramoff and Cunningham scandals make it timely for the Congress to consider public matching funds for small contributions to congressional candidates, the same type of system we adopted some time ago for presidential elections. It may be cheaper for the taxpayer to fund congressional elections than to bear the cost of lobbyist-controlled legislation like the recent Medicaid/Medicare drug bill.

There is another strong reason, I believe, for Republicans to work this fall for Democrat challengers against the DeLay-type Republicans like Pombo and Doolittle. That is the clear abdication by the House over the past five years of the Congress’ constitutional power and duty to exercise oversight over abuses of power, cronyism, incompetence and excessive secrecy on the part of the Executive Branch. When does anyone remember House Committee hearings to examine into the patent failures of the Bush Administration to adhere to laws like the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, or to the arrogant refusal of the President to accept the congressionally-enacted limits on torture of prisoners? When can anyone remember the House’s use of the subpoena power to compel answers from Administration officials? Why have there been no oversight hearings into the Cunningham bribery affair or Abramoff’s Indian gaming and exploitation of women labor in the Marianas?

When three former congressional staff aides join Abramoff in pleading guilty to attempting to bribe Congressmen, and a fourth takes the 5th Amendment rather than answer Senator McCain’s questions about his relationship with Abramoff and Indian gaming, with all five having given substantial campaign contributions to Mr. Pombo, with Indian tribes alone having given more than $500,000 to Pombo, would it not seem reasonable to ask him to conduct an appropriate oversight committee
Hearing into these matters, as long demanded by members of both parties, notably including his neighbor, George Miller?

For all of these reasons, I believe and hope that the Republicans who voted for me on June 6 will vote for Mr. McNerney and against Mr. Pombo in November.

The checks and balances of our Constitution are an essential part of our system of government, as is the public faith that can be obtained only by good ethical conduct on the part of our elected leaders.

If the Republicans in the House won’t honor these principles, then the Democrats should be challenged to do so. And if they decline to exercise that privilege, we can turn them out too. I appreciate that I had serious deficiencies as a candidate, and that four months of campaigning and the expenditure of $500,000 of the funds contributed by old friends and supporters were unsuccessful in convincing Republicans of the 11th District to end the continuing corruption in Washington. I hope, however, to partially redeem my electoral failure by working, as a simple private citizen, to rekindle a Republican sense of civic duty to participate in the electoral process this fall. The goal of The Revolt of the Elders was and is to educate voters to the need for a return of ethics and honesty in Washington. That goal was right 18 months ago, and seems even more worthwhile today.

Pete McCloskey,  Dublin, California.   
July 26, 2006
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:34 AM
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8. He lays it all out there. It's a great letter. nt
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:13 PM
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4. It amazes me that the flunky for an ELECTED rep would have
the damn gall to talk about the citizens of anywhere this way.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:17 PM
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5. Spoken like the Roman senators when they went to war with Carthage
...in the third Ounic Wars

<snip>
The Third Punic War: 149-146 BC
In the years intervening, Rome undertook the conquest of the Hellenistic empires to the east. In the west, Rome brutally subjugated the Iberian people who had been so vital to Roman success in the second Punic War. However, they were especially angry at the Carthaginians who had almost destroyed them. The great statesman of Rome, Cato, is reported by the historians as ending all his speeches, no matter what their subject, with the statement, "I also think that Carthage should be destroyed."

Carthage had, through the first half of the second century BC, recovered much of its prosperity through its commercial activities, although it had not gained back much power. The Romans, deeply suspicious of a reviving Carthage, demanded that the Carthaginians abandon their city and move inland into North Africa. The Carthaginians, who were a commercial people that depended on sea trade, refused. The Roman Senate declared war, and Rome attacked the city itself. After a seige, the Romans stormed the town and the army went from house to house slaughtering the inhabitants in what is perhaps the greatest systematic execution of non-combatants before World War II. Carthaginians who weren't killed were sold into slavery. The harbor and the city was demolished, and all the surrounding countryside was sown with salt in order to render it uninhabitable.

<more>
http://www.wsu.edu:8001/~dee/ROME/PUNICWAR.HTM
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 06:49 AM
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11. and Melos during the Peloponnesian War era
Athens slaughtered the men and sold the women and children into slavery. The Melians had tried to appeal to Athens' sense of justice but were basically informed that power equalled justice. And Athens was a democracy fighting Sparta, an autocratic state! Thucydides laid it all out in his "History of the Peloponnesian War." Of course, as we know Athens lost that war and that was the end of its empire and its democracy (altho a weaker form of democracy was later attempted).

Here is a lesson for America!
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:29 PM
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6. One editorial and he wants to
hang every resident? Isn't that a bit much? By the way, I never knew I was pampered! :eyes:
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:46 AM
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9. "foolishness of its pampered residents"
Connecticut may be the richest state by per capita income but I am definitely not a "pampered" resident.

Thanks Pombo staffer. We love you too.

Here's some good 'ol CT love from me to you. :loveya:
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 03:49 AM
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10. "Pampered residents?"
Somebody please tell that moron that it's only Litchfield and Fairfield Counties that have money. The rest of Connecticut is just as bad off as the rest of the country.

As for revoking CT's statehood and sending us Nutmeggers to Gitmo: say that to my face, Kish, you little pissant punk. I fucking dare you!
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:53 AM
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13. And all your 'extra' money goes into buying a damn house....
I saw my hometown, Fairfield, recently as #9 on the annual ten best places to live edition of Money magazine online, on CNN.com, I believe. Eden Prairie, MN, not too far from me, was ranked #10. The people in Fairfield made an average of about $15,000 per year more per household than in Eden Prarie, yet the disposable income in Eden Prairie was $20,000 per year (about 33%) more than in Fairfield. Part of the reason was the average price of a home in Fairfield was $550,000... almost exactly twice that of Eden Prarie and the other 8 "Top 10" cities.

Just more proof that the price of something bears no relation to what it actually costs to make and every relation to how much money the customers have. It costs something like $15 to find, pump, and tranport a barrel of oil to the US. But because we're a rich country and can afford to pay $77 dollars a barrel, that's exactly what we do.

But don't worry. The Arabs will gladly loan the money back to us, with interest, as well as buy tons of stuff to make war with. Oh, and they'll fund international terrorism against us, too.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 06:50 AM
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12. he WISHES he wasn't a dumbass cracker
NT
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:34 AM
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14. The Dems need to spotlight Pombo
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 05:39 AM by depakid
As part of a national campaign.

I can think of few more disgusting human beings to contrast the difference between what the Democratic party could be - and the ignorance, arrogance and corruption on the far right.

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