Desperate Mckinney sues Atlanta Journal for "libel"

[wyldwolf]

Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (D-GA) is suing an Atlanta newspaper for libel, after printing comments stemming from her run-in with police at the Capitol building.

J.M. Raffauf, her attorney, has filed charges against the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, editor Cynthia Tucker, and its publisher John Mellott following an article the paper ran on Sunday, July 30, 2006.

According to Raffauf, Tucker's editorial column "was untrue, defamatory and libelous" when it read "'she (the Congresswoman) slugged him (the officer) with her cell phone.' This false allegation is not supported by any witness or any other evidence. Additionally, Tucker is maliciously attempting to spin this into a felony by falsely alleging that she assaulted the officer with a deadly weapon."

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7004389056

[Donnachaidh]

1. why shouldn't she sue?

If the statements weren't backed up with facts - she has every right to sue.

The AJC is the major paper in the area. If the editors didn't fact-check EVERY comment this guy made -- too freaking bad for them.

And if this was a white male candidate, you wouldn't see the word *desperate* anywhere in the headline.

[New Earth]

3. you don't see it anywhere in the headline

or in the context of the article. it's the OP's personal adjective.

[GAPeace]

17. It's her opponent's mantra, actually n/t

[New Earth]

2. "desperate"?

yeah ok. :eyes:

[sendero]

4. Desparate to stop..

... the lying press. I wish a few more Dems would get desparate.

[CatWoman]

5. the only thing I see here that is "desperate"

is the ever seeking lust for attention by the anti-McKinney cause.

[wyldwolf]

24. almost rivals the anti-Democrat cause from the far left, huh?

[GAPeace]

59. She's not with the anti-Palestine crowd

She stands proudly with Kucinich, Conyers, Lee, and others there.

I guess someone who AIPAC hates must not be a Democrat, despite what she quite plainly is.

[wyldwolf]

102. uh...so?

Where has anyone said she isn't a Democrat?

[LittleClarkie]

151. Yeah, I'd say both sides are about as annoying

Rivals indeed.

[Name removed]

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[MrBenchley]

7. This part is very strange....

"The suit alleges that other misstatements were made, including the statement that Congresswoman McKinney "suggested that President Bush had known in advance about the Sept. 11 attacks but did nothing to stop them so his friends could profit from the ensuing war,""

Haven't we been hearing the far left fringe thump their chests and hoot about what a hero she was for alleging this? Now she's in court swearing she said no such thing?

[wyldwolf]

8. good catch!

but we'd better be careful... two or more of them will soon swoop in a complain about "DLC tagteaming."

[MrBenchley]

10. At this point nothing will trouble her addlepated followers

The past few days have been a fascinating study for those who want to see the far left's delusional nature and glaring hypocrisy close up.

[Ken Burch]

21. Christ, wyldwolf, don't lower yourself to tag-teaming with The Benchley.

You're a better person than that.

YOUR knuckles don't usually drag on the ground.

[wyldwolf]

26. there's one!

[Name removed]

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[SOS]

38. After a long day of McKinney bashing

They will put on their matching pajamas and shampoo each other's hair.
Early in the morning they will climb aboard their bicycle built-for-two and head back to the DLC clubhouse.
Tomorrow is bash Ned Lamont Day!


(with apologies to the writers at Frazier)

[wyldwolf]

48. and there's #2!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

62. Giggle

:7

[LittleClarkie]

154. Indeed, I used to admire his dignity in supporting his side and read his

posts with interest, even if I didn't always agree.

I suppose it's the influence of the internets that pulls one's arms down to the ground like that.

Shame really.

[CatWoman]

9. and a one. and a two.

People are strange when youre a stranger
Faces look ugly when youre alone
Women seem wicked when youre unwanted
Streets are uneven when youre down
When youre strange
Faces come out of the rain
When youre strange
No one remembers your name
When youre strange x3
People are strange when youre a stranger
Faces look ugly when youre alone
Women seem wicked when youre unwanted
Streets are uneven when youre down
When youre strange
Faces come out of the rain
When youre strange
No one remembers your name
When youre strange x3
When youre strange
Faces come out of the rain
When youre strange
No one remembers your name
When youre strange x3

[New Earth]

11. lolllll

did you say you were a grandmother? mine was just as spunky as you. :toast:

[CatWoman]

14. !!

:hi:

[MrBenchley]

12. Wow, an old song lyric!

Guess this is yet another pathetic attempt by the far left to prop up their anti-Semitic cop-slapping loony.

Take me down little Susie, take me down
I know you think you're the Queen of the Underground
And you can send me dead flowers every morning
Send me dead flower by the mail
Send me dead flowers to my wedding
But I won't forget to put roses on your grave

[CatWoman]

13. When I was just a little girl

I asked my mother
What will I be
Will I be pretty
Will I be rich
Here's what she said to me

Que sera, sera
Whatever will be, will be
The future's not ours to see
Que sera, sera
What will be, will be

When I grew up and fell in love
I asked my sweetheart
What lies ahead
Will we have rainbows
Day after day
Here's what my sweetheart said

Que sera, sera
Whatever will be, will be
The future's not ours to see
Que sera, sera
What will be, will be

Now I have Children of my own
They ask their mother
What will I be
Will I be handsome
Will I be rich
I tell them tenderly

Que sera, sera
Whatever will be, will be
The future's not ours to see
Que sera, sera
What will be, will be
Que Sera, Sera

[MrBenchley]

18. You ain't nothing but a hound dog,, crying all the time

You ain't never caught a rabbit and you ain't no friend of mine

Well. they said you were high-class, but that was just a lie
Yes, they said you were high-class, but that was just a lie
You ain't never caught a rabbit and you ain't no friend of mine......

[CatWoman]

20. Cry

You don't know how to ease my pain
You don't know
You don't know how to ease my pain
You don't know what the sound is darlin'
It's the sound of my tears fallin'
Or is it the rain?
You don't know how to play the game
You cheat
You lie
You make me wanna cry
You make me wanna cry
Cry...
You make me wanna cry
You don't know how to ease my pain
You don't know
You don't know how to ease my pain
Don't you hear any voices cryin'?
That's the sound of my love(?) dyin'
Here comes the rain
You don't know how to play the game
You cheat
You lie
You don't even know how to say goodbye
You make me wanna cry
You don't know
You don't even know how to say goodbye
You make me wanna cry
You don't even know how to say goodbye
You make me wanna cry
Cry...
Cry (x3)

[MrBenchley]

27. Cry baby, cry

Make your mother sigh
You're old enough to know better
Cry baby, cry....

[LittleClarkie]

157. Ah but I might as well try and catch the wind...

Instead of trying to get both sides of the debate to be civil and not fling excrement at each other as if we were at the monkey house instead of Democratic Underground.

[GAPeace]

50. You really sound like Neil Boorz here my friend

Antisemitic cop-slapping loony propped up by the "far left"...

Why don't you let us Georgians handle this ^_^

[MrBenchley]

53. Slap a cop for Cynthia!

[GAPeace]

57. Hey, she was found not to have done that by a Grand Jury

So stop reading the GOP talking points here friend and maybe suggest your Republican friends in Atlanta to not cross into the open primary and try to knock out McKinney. Majette tried that and stayed there 2 years voting with Republicans most of the time, a huge blow to the Democratic Party.

[MrBenchley]

60. So are you telling us she apologized for nothing?

"Majette tried that and stayed there 2 years voting with Republicans most of the time"
That's not even close to true.

[GAPeace]

64. When the media's lynching you

You just might have to play along.

[MrBenchley]

65. And when you admit slapping a cop

it's good to know that you have followers so zombified that they'll deny you did.....

[GAPeace]

66. Slap a Cop. Slap a Cop. Slap a Cop.

This is a real chorus. Can we get Bush to slap a cop (and have a Grand Jury acquit him of ever doing it) so that maybe these bots can go after him as hard?

[CatWoman]

67. LOL

Vote Democratic!!

Slap a cop for Jesus!!!

good campaign slogan, eh?

[MrBenchley]

68. Slap a cop for Cynthia!

Hey, it's hilarious to see somebody who's denying reality as fervently as you are, call anyone a bot.

[CatWoman]

72. Slap a cop for Jesus!!

[chimpymustgo]

115. The haters' frustration: Cynthia smacked ole Hank all over that debate.

Kicked his turgid, tight ass from Atlanta to Waycross and back.

Feel their pain...it's got to be pretty bad about now.

[klook]

119. Yeah, he was pathetic.

For example, when a questioner asked him to name just two things he would do for education, he robotically started spouting health care talking points! Even among DU's Republican Lite faction, he apparently has little real support. I don't see the McKinney bashers enumerating Johnson's strengths, touting his track record, or eagerly anticipating his legislative agenda.

On the other hand, McKinney's voting record as a member of Congress has been rated highly by NARAL Pro-Choice America, Americans for the Arts, the American Civil Liberties Union, the NAACP, Human Rights Campaign, the League of United Latin American Citizens, the National Education Association, the American Coalition for Ethanol, the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund, the League of Conservation Voters, the Children's Defense Fund, PeacePAC, the American Association of University Women, the National Organization for Women, the U.S. Public Interest Research Group, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, the American Public Health Association, the American Immigration Lawyers Association, the Service Employees International Union, United Auto Workers, the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers, the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, United Food and Commercial Workers, the Transportation Communications Union, the AFL-CIO, the National Committee for an Effective Congress, Americans for Democratic Action, People for the American Way, the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare, the Alliance for Retired Americans, the Population Institute, NETWORK (Catholic social justice lobby), Disabled American Veterans, Bread for the World, and others. (source: Project Vote Smart)

[LittleClarkie]

159. I wonder why she avoided debates with him up to this point

Stood him up she did.

But I'm not sure why the centrists would be all gungho over him. He appears to be fairly to the left. Hence probably why they're not cheerleading.

Nevertheless I find that it's better to campaign for someone than against someone, as the public prefers to know what they're voting FOR, as they will be stuck with it for a while. Hence, why I stopped campaigning against Bush in 2004 and started campaigning for Kerry.

I wonder what those who don't support McKinney feel about her possible opponent. "Eh, he's okay"? "At least he's not nuts?" Now there are some fine campaign slogans, eh?

[adwon]

111. Uh

Grand juries don't acquit. They decide whether to indict based upon probable cause. Further, as I recall, there was a constitutional question involved in this matter. There was uncertainty whether she could be indicted as the incident, whatever it was, occurred while she was literally on her way to Congress.

[klook]

78. But, like Boortz,

apparently none of the virulent McKinney bashers here actually live in her district.

And still no Greatest Page votes for this vitally important thread! Outrage!!

:rofl:

[NoPasaran]

103. I got yer recommendation right here, pal!

:dem:

[klook]

16. If you've got proof

that McKinney accused Bush of knowing about 9/11 in advance and letting it happen on purpose, please post it here.

I mean, actual proof, not a Cynthia Tucker column or some other third-hand account.

And while you're at it, be sure to let Greg Palast know. I'm sure he'd be interested.

from Re-Lynching Cynthia McKinney by Greg Palast; July 21, 2003
When I challenged the news mob about the McKinney "quote," they recoiled. In Atlanta, McKinney's home town, the Atlanta Journal Constitution's gross mis-phrasing of the Congresswoman's phrases did not withstand even a glance of scrutiny. The AJC recently asked me to speak to their international reporters about ways to improve world-wide coverage. I suggested they stop fabricating stories. Specifically, privately, in the AJC offices, and publicly in a rival paper, I challenged the editorial writer of the AJC to state exactly where McKinney had made her wild accusation of Presidential “murder.” I tempted them with a personal offer: if they could substantiate the quote, I would ingest an entire edition of the Atlanta Journal Constitution, a paper of some heft. I left Atlanta hungry.

Can you read an evil accusation into McKinney's statement -- Bush planned September 11 attacks to enrich his daddy? Oh, yes, if that's what you WANT to read. But reporters are not supposed to play ‘Gotcha!' with such serious matters. If a statement can be read two ways – one devastating – then journalists have an obligation to ASK and probe, and certainly not spread an 'interpretation' as a quotation.
more: http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=232&row=2

[MrBenchley]

19. Geeze, you mean it's supposed to be some surprise to me

that the far left is full of crap?

[klook]

25. Wow, you didn't even try to refute my comments??

You're just going to sit there and take it while Greg Palast shoots holes in your claim? :eyes:

[MrBenchley]

29. Geeze, you mean there was something in that pile of mush

you wanted refuted?

I really don't give a crap whether the anti-Semitic loony denies she did or not. I just find it a huge laugh that the far left has been celebrating that she had all these years, and now she's denying it under oath.

[klook]

33. Yeah. You made a statement you can't back up.

Read the thread. Respond. Don't just continue hurling insults without discussing the matter at hand.

[MrBenchley]

34. LOL! Irony is such a wonderful thing....

"You made a statement you can't back up"
And what WAS the statement?

[klook]

43. What part of your own post do you not understand?

"The suit alleges that other misstatements were made, including the statement that Congresswoman McKinney "suggested that President Bush had known in advance about the Sept. 11 attacks but did nothing to stop them so his friends could profit from the ensuing war."

Haven't we been hearing the far left fringe thump their chests and hoot about what a hero she was for alleging this? Now she's in court swearing she said no such thing?

OK, let's break this down:

• You reported that McKinney's lawsuit says the AJC misquoted her as suggesting that Bush knew in advance about 9/11 but did nothing to stop the attacks "so his friends could profit from the ensuing war."
• You then say "the Left" praises her for supposedly saying this.
• Then you ridicule McKinney for denying she said it.

Am I wrong to say that you are saying that McKinney said Bush let 9/11 happen on purpose? If so, we agree that she never said any such thing!

I anxiously await your reply.

[MrBenchley]

49. Again, what statement did I make?

"You then say "the Left" praises her for supposedly saying this.
* Then you ridicule McKinney for denying she said it."
And that ridicule is well deserved. On both ends.

"Am I wrong to say that you are saying that McKinney said Bush let 9/11 happen on purpose?"
Since you seem unable to comprehend even what YOU wrote, I guess I have to say "Yes, you are wrong."

[klook]

58. HOORAY! So we agree!

At last! So you have cleared the air and stated that you agree with me that Cynthia McKinney never said Bush let 9/11 happen on purpose. I don't even care that your previous post made it absolutely clear you didn't agree. I am overjoyed at your change of heart. Or whatever it is.
:toast: and good night.

You still might want to read that Greg Palast article sometime, since you agree with him about this too.

[MrBenchley]

63. I agree you must be mighty damn desperate

and it's STILL funnier than all get out that the antiSemitic loony is suing to deny the statement that her far left whoopsters have been celebrating these many years....

[GAPeace]

You want to see the statement she made?

You can look it up in Greg Palast's "The Screwing of Cynthia McKinney"

It was more along the lines of her ASKING Bush if he had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks, not accusing him of having knowledge. We now know what she was saying was right.

She's not a conspiracy theorist.

[MrBenchley]

39. No, I don't give a shit what the antisemitic loony said

She's a disgrace to the party. The sooner she slinks off the stage, the better.

"We now know what she was saying was right."
And yet she's suing to deny having said it. What a coward.

[GAPeace]

42. She's a disgrace to AIPAC, I'll give you that

antisemitic looney -- jeese the anti-palestine folks have really gone off the deep end.

She's a Democrat and I proudly support her

[MrBenchley]

44. She's a disgrace to the human race

And it wasn't that long ago she was making noises about defecting to the Greens--wish she had doen so and taken her cheering section with her.

[GAPeace]

47. Wow, you hate her almost as much as the Republicans do.

I prefer to stand by my Democrats, what ones we have here in Georgia.

[MrBenchley]

52. Slap a cop for Cynthia

You're welcome to the anti-Semitic loony.

[CatWoman]

69. I won't slap one for her, but I will slap one for Jesus.....

[MrBenchley]

71. Whatever the fuck that means.....

[wyldwolf]

81. it doesn't mean anything. She just had to post something...

[MrBenchley]

84. Guess she ran out of old song lyrics

[CatWoman]

130. nope, got plenty - just tired of serenading you

now why the fuck aren't you out slapping a cop for Jesus?????

what good are you???

I wonder? Are you two busy cleaning up all the um, material you expend while posting Cynthia hate?

Is that why you're not out doing your job of slapping a cop for Jesus?

[wyldwolf]

70. Let's play Jeopardy! Cynthia McKinney and Zsa Zsa Gabor...

both have THIS hobby...

What is slapping police officers?

Right!

[GAPeace]

73. Hey, Bill Clinton got a blowjob and LIED ABOUT IT!

I'm sorry, but that's the equivalent of what you're doing to McKinney: making obscure personal mishaps and accidents more important than issues and the actual politics. The difference is that Bill Clinton was found guilty.

Let's support our Democrats here and not be divisive over non-issues for the sake of propping up the conservatives in our Party.

[wyldwolf]

77. LOL! Did the cop consent to be slapped? Monica consented to the BJ

Let's support our Democrats here and not be divisive over non-issues for the sake of propping up the conservatives in our Party.

you contradict yourself before you even finish that statement.

[cmkramer]

110. Not only that

but she was mad that he wasn't giving her more BJ opportunities!

Please. This lawsuit is all about firing up McKinney's base. She's a public figure so the chances of her winning this lawsuit are remote.

[klook]

80. Well said.

And by the way, welcome to DU!
:yourock:

[adwon]

112. Bill Clinton was not found guilty

He was not removed from office, nor has he been prosecuted since leaving office.

[MrBenchley]

75. LOL!

But remember, just because McKinney admitted to doing so and apologized, doesn't mean she did. (snicker)

[LittleClarkie]

158. An anti-Semitic loony you say

Gee, hadn't heard that one before.

Okay, we get it. You think she's a cop-slapping anti-Semitic loony. Alrighty then. But we're not Drew Barrymore and this isn't "50 First Dates."

Is there a particular reason you feel compelled to repeat that over and over and over again? Is it that you're hoping for the negative response you know it will bring from those who might support her? Is the intent to inflame? Because it sure doesn't look like a discussion.

[LittleClarkie]

155. No, just a request for evidence. A fairly civil one.

Or weren't you up for a discussion as opposed to repeating slap a cop and far-left loony.

[Name removed]

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[LittleClarkie]

153. What did that have to do with the post you were answering?

Ad hominem comments like that are hardly productive when the person was merely asking for evidence.

A civil response with facts and links and such goes a long way.

[GAPeace]

15. The Conservative Democrat of DU really has an agenda after McKinney

But then again I can see with the Bill Clinton icon why you may not like progressive Democrats -- they're too antiestablishment.

[wyldwolf]

22. Bill Clinton - 88% approval rating among Democrats...

... but since you're not a Democrat, you wouldn't understand.

[GAPeace]

31. Being the lesser of two evils really helps

The same reason Bush has his majority of Republicans supporting him. They know he sucks but don't want Democrats.

[wyldwolf]

51. which evils?

Clinton has the highest approval of ANY Democrat.

[MrBenchley]

54. Clinton is a Democrat who won....

To the far left, that is evil.

[Awsi Dooger]

23. It is desperate and dumb when you're attacking an editorial

A devastating editorial, I might add. One that could cement McKinney's fate.

But this is just another example of incompetent handicapping. If McKinney doesn't understand the difference between an "article" and an editorial she might get a hint from a paragraph late in Cynthia Tucker's editorial: "But what changes to the "stinking system" has McKinney wrought? She doesn't have the prestige or power to pass a resolution in support of sweetened ice tea."

I think the readers can determine this is an opinion piece. By suing the paper she brings further attention to the editorial, which can only hurt her.

Tucker, editorial page editor of the AJC, obviously doesn't respect McKinney and unleashed that in Sunday's editorial: http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/tucker/

I thought Tucker worded the editorial very carefully in regard to the episode at the Capitol: "When he stopped her, the officer said, she slugged him with her cellphone."

Note the words, "the officer said." That attributes the section, "she slugged him with her cellphone," to the officer's summation of events, not a description from Tucker herself.

That appears to be an accurate summation, hardly defamatory and libelous. Although I'm not sure if the officer used the word slug. There wouldn't have been an incident if the officer hadn't made that claim.

Also, Tucker followed that sentence with McKinney's allegation, complete with specific quote: "She denounced him for alleged racial profiling and "the inappropriate touching and stopping of me — a female, black congresswoman.""

[wyldwolf]

28. ...and we have a winner, folks!

[GAPeace]

32. I see you prefer the candidate backed by the Republicans and Boortz

You know how McKinney lost in 2002? A slander -- A LIE -- about what she said about the Administration's foreknowledge of 9/11 and 35,000 Republicans crossing over into the Primaries to vote against her.

She has every right to sue to get people to stop lying about her; she deserves a fair campaign so there can be a fair election.

[wyldwolf]

55. actually, I do... along with half the Democrats in her district...

... I know, "Dinos" :eyes:

[MrBenchley]

56. If you look at the primary results that forced the runoff....

it's almost two-thirds of the Democrats in her district...

Wasn't she 20 points down in the morning polls?

[MrBenchley]

37. I was wondering about that myself....

especially because it was singled out as something she was suing about.

How is she going to prove it untrue? Is she going to try to pass the Sweetened Ice Tea Resolution Act of 2006?

[dsc]

82. Editoral writers can be sued too

Items that are stated as facts in editorials can be sued over if they are untrue. For example, if I write an editorial stating one shouldn't vote for candidate John Smith because he killed a family of four in a DUI and he didn't then I can be sued.

[wyldwolf]

88. but if you quote a police officer's statement, you can't be sued for that

[dsc]

100. probably not

Though I am not sure she quoted the cop correctly either.

[NYCGirl]

35. It's an EDITORIAL. McKinney's suit will be laughed out of court. NT

[GAPeace]

36. Like McKinney was going to be arrested for the cop non-incident?

I see a trend here.

[NYCGirl]

40. It'll make Fox vs. Franken look like the Scopes Trial. And that got

laughed out of court in about half an hour.

[GAPeace]

41. And Tasini vs the New York Times?

[MrBenchley]

45. What about it?

Or are you just dragging court cases out of thin air.

[NYCGirl]

46. That case is hardly comparable. NT

[God Almighty]

61. Cynthia takes on the Republican press. Good for her.

Hope she wins enough to buy the newspaper.

[NoPasaran]

107. I'll go you one better...

I hope she wins enough to buy the Sunday paper!

[SaveElmer]

74. Funny how day after day of Hillary bashing is just fine and dandy...

Some DU'ers have made that their profession it seems...

But criticize one of the DU darlings more than once...well then get out the ritalin...you are obviously an obsessive compulsive...

[GAPeace]

76. Maybe people disagree with Clinton but agree with McKinney

Wild thought, that is.

[SaveElmer]

79. Also not to the point...

Wyldwolf takes an opposite view...why criticize him for posting on it more than once.

Apparently it is ok when you are bashing someone you don't like...then it is just good political discourse..

But criticize someone you do like...and its just a psychotic obsession...

[GAPeace]

87. McKinney is actually antiwar unlike Clinton

so it's understandable why she is better recieved on a left-wing message borad.

[wyldwolf]

90. correction

DU is a board for Democrats first. Check the rules.

[GAPeace]

92. Of which McKinney is one..

I don't see the relevance of your point.

[wyldwolf]

96. of Which Hillary is one

...and a more popular one at that.

But the point? DU isn't a "leftwing" board, its a Democratic board, and Democrats come in many stripes.

[GAPeace]

97. DU is the left wing of the Democratic Party

The DLC doesn't get many tips of the hats here my friend.

[wyldwolf]

99. no it isn't

At least, the site owners don't believe it to be.

The DLC doesn't get many tips of the hats here my friend.

Very often, my friend.

[GAPeace]

101. Outside of you and a few others, you seem to be in very little company

Try coming onto General Discussion with those kinds of views and you'll see.

[LincolnMcGrath]

104. If a DU poll were to reflect badly on the dlcentrist-zellocrats,

you can rest assured that all of DU would be labeled to the left of the mainstream, so it's pretty laughable to see this current exchange.

[wyldwolf]

105. that's really beside the point, isn't it?

DU isn't a popularity contest. But is is Democratic Underground. Not far left or progressive or leftwing Underground. And for your info, I have amassed many posts in General Discussion. How many have YOU got there?

[GAPeace]

106. A few thousand n/t

[wyldwolf]

108. LOL! A sock puppet!

so, posting under another identity too, or just a returning banned member?

[NoPasaran]

114. Both, I think

You don't have to be a genius to figure it out.

[MrBenchley]

129. Say, isn't that against DU rules?

[rman]

125. it's called "Underground" for a reason

[wyldwolf]

126. you're right, but I have a feeling you don't know what that reason is

[rman]

146. feel whatever you want,

why would anyone care?

[wyldwolf]

147. well, the fringe left and the fringe right have a care-deficit for truth..

...so only a few here would care.

[martymar64]

120. Even Right Wing Zellocrats like you?

Its apparent that you don't like anything that is even a little left. And since the center of discourse has moved to the right in the past few decades, that would put you firmly in the Right Wing. Next you'll be telling us that Pinochet was just misunderstood and that Mussolini was an effective leader because the trains ran on time.
The Right Wing is what is destroying America and you're happily going along with it, god forbid that someone should stand up for the people. That would get in the way of your PNAC agenda.
Why don't you just admit that you are right wing and proud of it? At least you'd be honest with us for a change.
Same for you Mr. (I love Meir Kahane and Baruch Goldstein) Benchley!

[wyldwolf]

122. even a far left loon like you is welcome here.

[SaveElmer]

91. Again...not the point...

Wyldwolf is being criticized for posting on McKinney multiple times...a ridiculous criticism. Criticize his position and I wouldn't be saying anything...I am criticizing people on a board in which we are treated to people posting on the same topic multiple time, for criticizing someone doing the same exact thing. It's hypocritical.

[GAPeace]

94. Is it the same people doing the criticizing in both cases

Or is DU one body that thinks with one mind?

[SaveElmer]

98. One more time...

It is not disagreeing with wyldwolf for critcising McKinney that is hypocritical...if you like McKinney and disagree with wyldwolf in his cricticism...that is fine.

It is criticising someone for posting on the same topic multiple times that is hypocritical...because it goes on all the time among those with a different perspective.

[LetsGoMurphys]

109. Dont dare criticize

Chavez, Castro, or McKinney here. That would make you a neocon. Criticizing Clinton, however the most effective democrat that will take office in my lifetime, is a rite of passage.

[LincolnMcGrath]

83. What DUer ever posted a dozen anti HRC threads in 2 days?

Including spamming the same opinion piece twice in two days?

But then again, what DUer with hundreds of posts in the last few days alone and then have the gall call someone else a keyboard warrior? :eyes:

[wyldwolf]

85. what DUer ever posted a dozen anti-McKinney threads in 2 days?

I'm dying to know...

...

[GAPeace]

86. Big Money is really after McKinney on this

and the most right wing of Dems are helping the fight along here, trying to replace her with someone in bed with contractors and recieving support from Republicans and conservative Democrats.

It would spell the death of progressivism in the Georgia Legislature (Congressman Lewis is also progressive but he is not as fiery as he used to be).

They're trying to kill the Left, and much of DU is helping.

[SaveElmer]

89. Just can't resist it can ya...

Making shit up...I haven't criticized anyone for posting for any number of times...

In fact it is the opposite...I am criticizing those who are taking wyldwolf to task for posting on this topic multiple times...

And if you are blind to the Hillary obsession, then you are just blind...

But I'm flattered that you bothered to check into the number of times I have posted recently...

[LincolnMcGrath]

93. Who said anything about you?

:shrug:

[SaveElmer]

95. Guess my ego got the best of me...nt

[ScreamingMeemie]

123. All Democrats get their fare share of ire here as witnessed in the

Presidential Primaries. If I had a nickel for each time the supporters of pick-a-candidate sent me an alert (as a mod) that their candidate was being unfairly attacked I'd be a very rich woman. Try moderating sometime SaveElmer, and you'll put that idea to rest by day two.

[nickshepDEM]

113. Na na na...

na na na...

hey hey hey...

[martymar64]

121. Another Zellocrat!

SPITBALLS!!!!!

BTW, how's your boy Joe (I love GWB) Lieberman doing?

[LincolnMcGrath]

143. More like: Don Quixote.... only without the windmills

Charging strong with hyperbole in hand against imaginary far left windmills.

[mtnester]

116. Desparate is not in the actual headline....

hmmm.

[wyldwolf]

117. ya think after 116 posts, no one else has figured that out?

The only forum where exact headlines are required is LBN. All other forums are understood to contain opinions and editorial content.

[mtnester]

118. Appreciate your greeting

click

[rman]

124. "Desperate"? - way to frame the issue

[CatWoman]

133. he gets better

am waiting his latest "editorial" with baited breath.

He posts at least two a day, and his buddy Bob immediately joins in with the two-way.

I wonder if they bother to clean up the mess in between postings?

[LincolnMcGrath]

134. Somebody has to eat the damn cracker...

[bvar22]

127. Paul Wellstone continually suffered these kind of attacks....

...from the conservative wing of the Democratic Party who used their Corporate funding and resources to swiftboat him and his progressive policies.

"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans,"---Paul Wellstone

http://www.blackcommentator.com/46/46_cover.html




Remembering Paul,
Supporting McKinney





The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[MrBenchley]

128. Wellstone slapped a cop and called Al Gore a racist?

Sure seems to me that I remember Bill Clinton at Wellstone's memorial...but then I don't live in whatever delusional state some people here inhabit.

[CatWoman]

132. Gee, Bob

take a tranquilizer or something.

[LincolnMcGrath]

135. Considering the filth that is allowed to stay in the interest of diversity

It is a wonder that there are any Democrats left,

[bvar22]

138. *

"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans,"---Paul Wellstone

[LincolnMcGrath]

139. Paul knew who the real Democrats were, that is for sure.

[MrBenchley]

141. In other words, yet another claim from the far left

turns out to be horseshit

[LittleClarkie]

152. I liked that

Sort of a "Lighten up, Francis" moment.

Eesh.

I only wish both sides could share the political sandbox.

It's sort of an Israel vs the Palestinian situation though. No end in sight.

[bvar22]

136. I know.

You live in a completely different delusional state with a population of One.
:rofl:

[CatWoman]

137. aw, Bvarr, now you've done it

you've caught him in mid jerk.

ewwwwwwwwwww

and he wonders why I won't sing to him anymore!! :eyes:

[MrBenchley]

140. Nope. I live in the real world

where the far left is justly despised by most Americans, for reasons that are obvious.

[Name removed]

149. Deleted message

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[MrBenchley]

150. It's the far left that's in the pay of the Republicans, pally

And as for idiocy, you'd be hard-put to find better specimens than the ones denying the antiSemiitic loony slapped a cop after she admitted doing so and apologized.

[CatWoman]

131. sadly, history is condemmed to keep repeating itself

stupid is as stoopid does, you know?

[MrBenchley]

142. Hilariously, so is the far left....

and they've gotten as silly as they are repitively tedious.

"stupid is as stoopid does"
Irony is SUCH a wonderful thing.

[fujiyama]

144. This suit will be thrown out

It's very unlikely it will go anywhere.

[OzarkDem]

145. Ok, we get it - you don't like Dems or women - big deal

My you guys have such a limited range.

[KoKo]

156. Deperate "wyldwolf" goes after Cynthia McKinney...and it's SO Transparent!

I'd like to think your "posts" are sincere and that you are a "True DLC'er" who has a right to their opinion...but your constant posts against Dem Progressive Candidates belie the fact that you are really convinced by "another agenda" that is "SHADOW."

I see you out here...and it's good to go back "attcha" because you sound more and more like a person from "Dark Side." I won't give "name" to that "Dark Side" but it is what it is...........

:shrug:

[wyldwolf]

160. conspiracy theorist "koko01" babbles about "shadows" and "dark side"

...and true to form for a leftist, can only attack the messenger, not the message, nor refute the content.