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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:14 PM
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BTW, just thought I'd let you know I'm voting for a DLC dem in November
Try not to let your head explode on that one.

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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:14 PM
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1. Good for you
Nice to see somebody with good sense
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:16 PM
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3. Well as long as Tom Carper isn't on the big committees
like Judicary or Foreigh Affairs - I'm ok with it.

And if he was, I'd deal with it.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:16 PM
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2. I'm voting for every Dem on the ballot
DLC or not. School board members, county judge, state and federal reps. I haven't voted for a republican since 1976 (I really, truly like Gerald Ford.)
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:17 PM
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5. True Dat Straight D
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:18 PM
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32. As Randi Rhodes recommends,
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 05:20 PM by ShortnFiery
I put Country before Party, always. I will NOT ever vote for a warmongering Democrat. :-) :hi:

Anyone who never deviates from a PARTY LINE vote is merely a Party Loyalist, a toady for those who hold the power reigns. Hey, I want the lions share of these a**holes OUT, mostly Republican, but also many with Ds behind their name who are warmongers.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:18 PM
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6. Actually I am too
Although for about 2 weeks I flirted with voting green because it's been the one statewide seats that the democrats in Delaware can't tackle (our at large representative Mike Castle. He's the one that wrote HR810 that got the first veto ever). Michael Berg is running for the House in Delaware on the Green party. It was tempting but I can't vote for him.

But I realized that I have to stick with my party - I'm voting Green
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:19 PM
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9. 1976, wow!
You should start a "What's the last time you voted for a Republican?" thread. See if anyone can beat you. I've only been voting for eight years, but in the past I've usually voted for about one Republican per ballot. The way they've fucked things up, I don't think I'll do that for a while.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:20 PM
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10. I wish I could say that - I would be 1998
I voted for Tom Ridge. In Pennsylvania republicans tend to be more pro-choice that democrats.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:26 PM
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12. It wouldn't be me. Sadly I have been forced to choose between a totally
batshit crazy repug and a seemingly sane repug in the last race for a county commission race (the sane repug actually sounded very much like a liberal dem), and I will be forced to do so again in an upcoming school board race because there are no democrats running.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:30 PM
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15. May I suggest that you run??
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:36 PM
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19. How do you think the slide to the right began?
Because republicans started to focus on winning these little positions like School Board.

Back when I was in school, school boards were havens for liberalism. Repukes knew that by winning school board races they had the chance to move the school agenda to the right and force their sick ideology on our children.

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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:53 PM
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No. My spouse tried to run for a schoolboard seat about 4yrs. ago.
I'm trying to get a committee of women and precinct chairs, co-chairs, etc. in this area together so that we can begin to field and vet candidates for these offices, though.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:29 PM
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13. I do not believe my body
would let me pull the lever for a republican. My sister in law, who lives in another state is a county office holder and she is a republican, but she and her position are not political. Its a red state and her political affiliation is the only way she could get elected. My Dear old Father in law, a life long democrat is tumbling in his grave.
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CheshireCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:37 PM
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20. Never!
I first voted in 1972 and I ALWAYS vote. I have never voted for a Republican.

I have voted for many 3rd party candidates, but Republicans are too conservative for me. If the Dem is too conservative and there is no 3rd party alternative, then I usually write in someone.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:17 PM
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4. I don't need to worry about voting for mine..
the Republicans will vote for him in large numbers. I will vote, but I am most angry with him for selling us out on so many things, never responding, just ignoring us.

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:19 PM
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8. Yeah but your republican option is way worse than mine
Mine is pretty moderate leaning but yours is Katherine Harris.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:18 PM
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7. I'll vote for as many Democrats as we've got on the ballot
Some people would say it's easier and more efficient to mark the "Straight Democratic" circle on your sheet. Me, I say vote for each and every Democratic candidate on the ballot. Hell, they worked hard and campaigned their butts off, so I can afford to spend a few extra minutes making additional black circles on the ballot when crunch time comes.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:24 PM
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11. go for it -- i'm not -- in fact --
i'm leaving feinstein blank.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:30 PM
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14. that's really sad
What difference is it going to make other than making her REPUBLICAN opponent 1 vote closer to beating her. And didn't you see the grilling that she gave Gonzales about spying and the war.

Don't think of it as voting for Feinstein, think of it as voting for some great democrats who will gain a committee chair and could perhaps do the things that you hope that Feinstein would do. Who knows, if we get the momentum rolling with strong showing in committees then perhaps more democrats on the fence will finally get off of it. If you like what Kerry, Kennedy, Boxer, Feingold, Leahy are doing then by voting for her means you want THEM making committee decisions not republicans.

It won't hurt you to pull the lever and no one will think less of you, but just think about it. I can't blame you for your decision but it's time we stop thinking of ourselves and instead look at the big picture.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:35 PM
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18. i'm sorry you think that i haven't thought about it.
i have -- long and hard.

when dean appeared on the 700 club i stopped donating to the dnc too.

there are lines i cannot cross -- i am actually looking to change both this political party and the country.

going along to get along gets more of the same -- and that is not what i'm after.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:39 PM
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21. But you're not
We have primaries - fight for those make the changes there. The one thing I hope and pray that comes out of this whole Lamont/Lieberman mess is that we can and SHOULD challenge democrats in office. We are too close to losing our power of filibuster to risk even one seat and we have more to gain with Feinstein in office then a republican in that same position.

But as for Dean on 700Club - why not? I mean, we need to get our voice out there to all people, not just the select few we want in our party. Perhaps if the people who watch the 700 club saw a reasonable person on there talking the issues and giving a counterpoint to what Robertson spew they might realize that there are other options.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:53 PM
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27. ah i see.
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 04:54 PM by xchrom
it's party above all else?

the party is about itself -- not ideals or ideas -- it is naive and foolish to think a party is the solution to anything.

i.e. clinton is not where i would go again as a liberal/progressive for any reason.

you are happy -- by extending your logic to leave in power those corporations that pull the strings behind the curtains just in order to have a party come in as the front runner.

a collective cult of personality isn't appealing to me UNLESS that part collective is acting accordance with certain principals

-- marriage equality being high on my list.

coming in very close -- are others.

but i won't give my vote to someone with feinstein's record on the war.

i give to certain campaigns -- i give to hrc{though they certainly piss me off} i give to naral, answer, pda, oh yeah and the humane society.
and volunteer as well.

no centrists and no moderates for me -- not any more.

first time i've ever done this on a national level -- i will vote socialist if there is on running locally.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:36 PM
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35. I have no choice
Everyone up for election is DLC. The Gov, Doyle, my Senator, Kohl, and even the guy running against Sensenbrenner looks to be leaning that way, though I'm not sure he is until he shows up on a list somewhere.

That's okay. The Republicans who get elected to the Governorship tend to be RINO's. Life in a purple state, you know.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 07:08 PM
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36. sometimes it happens that way.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:30 PM
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16. A DLC Democrat can be better than a Republican....
...if you have no other choice. A DLC Democrat caucusing with Democrats helps put the Democrats in control, deciding committe chairmen, setting the agenda, etc.

It's the DINOs like LIEberman you have to be careful about, because they will switch on you.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:34 PM
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17. Then why hasn't he switched earlier?
I mean, even Zell Miller didn't switch after Jeffords left the party.

There is a reason why folks like Barbara Boxer and several other senators are campaigning for Lieberman. Because if Lamont wins they know he'll side with the democrats because the guy is a liberal, he's got to side somewhere. But if Lieberman wins he could switch parties and at least Boxer, et al can go back to him and say "Hey we supported you in the primaries"

People were upset with what Barbara did but it really was a calculated move to make sure he stays with the party if he wins
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:40 PM
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22. I'm voting DLC, DSCC, DCCC, DNC....
As long as there is a "D" after their name...
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:40 PM
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23. I'm voting for two of them
Rep and Senator. The alternative is a repug, and not all members of the DLC are like that dipstick Lieberman. Though Cantwell may be a Hillary clone...
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:47 PM
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24. I Don't Have Choice...
Bill Nelson is all that is being offered! Not happy about it, but since Creulla is currently my representative I simply can't think of sitting it out!

She must VANISH!

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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:50 PM
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25. heh I'm faced with the same choice - Cruella or Corpboy
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:53 PM
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26. One for Gov, one for Senate, and it looks like one for Congress as well
We're purple.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:24 PM
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34. I've Been Living The "Three Strikes" Conundrum For So Long I
stay inflamed daily! The Idiot In the WH... The Idiot in The Governor's Mansion... and The WITCH right up the street!

Thanks to people like them, we now see what TERROR really looks like, and to think that Bill Nelson isn't really EVER going to do ANYTHING confrontational makes me even more upset.

But then again, I suppose NOT living in the Middle East is a Blessing, so I'm counting mine!

It is just so very disgusting that so many people ran down the wrong path and lead so many others to their death! And still America seems to slumber in many many ways!

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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:58 PM
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28. No problem.
DLC Dems have a right to run just like anybody else.

Mostly I do not like DLCers when they make troll pronouncements, like baiting so-called liberals, etc. So I think that the DLC as a PAC sucks. They are totally wacked out.

But I have no problem at all with many individual DLC Congress-Critters.

Evan Bayh - What's not to like about him? Yes, he's a bit conservative on some issues, but the man exudes honesty and integrity. I really like him--a lot!

Hillary Clinton - In spite of her wacked-out position on Iraq, she's a helluva Senator. I'd gladly trade DiFi for her and would proudly vote for her reelection (while continuing to encourage her to reconsider her Iraq position).

Just some examples from a very liberal Democrat.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:06 PM
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30. One glimpse of Evan Bayh... the Senate hearings with Don Rumsfeld
immediately after Abu Ghraib broke.

Bayh grilled Rumsfeld's fanny like I've never seen it grilled before. Unbelievable. I had to blink a few times to make sure it was Evan Bayh, but by god it WAS.

He's got some fire if he chooses to use it.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:03 PM
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29. That doesn't surprise anyone here
And I would expect if your choice was between a Progressive and a GOPer, you would have a fight with yourself not to leave the section blank.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:17 PM
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31. Well, you won't explode my head.
Everyone's got to do what they believe is right. As for me, if Lieberman wins the primary I will vote for him only if he is in trouble which at this point is pretty much impossible. My objection and distate for him has nothing to do with him being DLC, but rather his sneaky tactics to hold on to power and his disdain for CT Democrats. I have no respect left for him so only if he gets into big trouble against the Republican (highly unlikely) will I hold my nose and vote for him. Hopefully it won't come to that.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:20 PM
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33. I agree
n/t
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 07:14 PM
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37. I'll pull the DEM lever as always. n/t
n/t
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:31 PM
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38. I'll support the winner of our Democratic primary
whichever one that is.
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