When they take the gloves off will we know?

[Warren Stupidity]

Well what have we seen so far in current maneuvers by the cabal?

- the Rove indictment squashed - that is my interpretation, yours can be different.

- a big new (not) Victory in Iraq moment - all ready to go alongside the death of Big Bogeyman Zarqawi.

- Gays God and Flags - concurrent to all of the above we get the retread of the 04/02 campaign themes designed to bring out the hate voter.

- NYT gets nominated for destruction - can the cabal do to an entire paper what it did to Mr. Rather? An orchestrated call for 'wartime censorship' is floated. What war?

- the USSC decides that you can't just shoot the folks in gitmo, they actually have to have a real trial first, like with charges, lawyers, juries and judges, and the cabal promptly announces that it don't care 'bout that ruling. Hmmmmm....

- net castration. Well of course it is about the corporate greedhead feeding frenzy, there is rent to be extracted out there and dammit congress is going to enable the extraction, but this also seems like a real good way to isolate blog servers from a cleaner centralized concentrated and OWNED internet.

- the Iranians are handed a deadline they will walk away from.

- the North Koreans are threatened with attack for having something resembling a vintage 1959 rocket. Or not, perhaps they don't even have that.

- the submissive media obediently stenos the news that WMD have been found in Iraq, despite the plain fact that nothing of the sort actually happened. The same media notes at the opposite end of the volume level that it was all bullshit. Gosh, how shocking.

- the FBI cooks up the most pathetic domestic terra case one could imagine. Was that actually the best they could do? But it doesn't matter much how pathetic this case is, it serves it purpose.

I'd say that the cabal is peeling off the gloves. We are in the midst of an all out offensive. The election will be jiggered again in 06, we will have another in your face moment. The cabal will get their fifth judge on the court. And then we will indeed be staring into the abyss, slowly realizing that this is not going to have a happy ending, that the cavalry is not going to ride over the hill and save us, that we are all alone.

[SteppingRazor]

1. Not the most optimistic conclusion, but hey...

Couple points though. You talk about Iraq and then later say "What war?" There are almost 2600 dead US soldiers over there, no? Vietnam and Korea were not declared wars. This is the same as them -- in many ways, actually. That doesn't mean I'm for this ridiculous "wartime censorship," of course. I'm just pointing out that you can't complain about these absurd "Victory in Iraq" moments, and then deny that we're at war in your next point.

the media certainly did not "submissively steno" the WMD lies of Santorum. Hell, even the CNN morning anchors made fun of the senator. I mean, come on!

No, the FBI terror case does not serve its purpose. It's being laughed at across the nation. Certainly down here in South Florida, no one I know is taking it seriously. Check out this column in the Miami New Times: http://www.miaminewtimes.com/Issues/2006-06-29/news/metro2.html
All this case did was highlight the idiocy of the latest GOP tactics, which is why the media either stoppoed talking about it, or else started kicking the administration about it.



So, I don't think this has been nearly as effective as you make it out to be, and polls bear me out, which have shown a constant, upward increase in the support for a Democratic congress in 2006.

Finally, if they're going to rig the election anyway, why are they even trying so hard to scream about terror, guns, gays, etc? Why even bother?

[Warren Stupidity]

2. "What war" in the legal sense

An actual constitutional state of war would at least provide some precedence for wartime censorship. Yes clearly we went to war against Iraq and continue a war of occupation against the stubborn Iraqi insurgency, but we never bothered to legally declare war. And yet an orchestrated campaign against the independence of the NYT is based on the claim that such censorship follows from our 'state of war'. This is all part of their argument for extraordinary powers - the unitary executive - that in their self proclaimed endless long war against bogeymen justifies an executive dictatorship.

They could lose the 06 election, but they will use fraud and their control over the media to make sure that doesn't happen. If it does happen two things will occur: we will see a factional split in the Democratic Party between War Party Democrats and Real Democrats. The War Party faction will attempt to block any efforts to investigate the cabal or end the war. They will probably be successful. In addition the cabal will use their uncontested signing authority to simply ignore any legislation they object to. What exactly are we going to do if they just ignore the courts and sign away contrary legislation? Yell loudly?

I don't think they will lose. They have done their work well. Via HAVA they have gotten the damn DRE machines installed all over the place. Their base is very well organized and ours is just the opposite. The work both parites have done to make all house seats safe seats has made the lower house election somewhat of a farce. The bamboozlement from the media barrage, WMD in Iraq, Terra Threat in Miami, is effective. Yes you get some smirking, but day after day the media regurgitates this crap as if it is real and meaningful.

[AndyTiedye]

4. They Need Those Issues As A Cover Story For WHY The Repubs "Won"

It wasn't the real reason in Georgia in 2002


It wasn't the real reason in Ohio in 2004


But they have to give the media some kind of story to tell to
explain why the Republicans "won" each time
even though they were behind in the polls.

Each time the pundits attribute it to the Repubs picking up the hate vote
the Democratic party tears itself apart some more, trying to appease the haters.
There are haters, of course. The media shows the same ones over and over.
What does that tell you about their true numbers?

Yet they are credited with delivering the 2002 and 2004 elections to the Rethugs.
I don't think so.


Republican Electing Machinez

[Warren Stupidity]

5. They always work on the narrative.

It is their big thing. It is why they have the orchestrated talking points, the designed befuddlement campaigns. It works.

[applegrove]

3. They probably use the term "gloves off" day in and day out. And have

for the last 30 years.

[Warren Stupidity]

6. I think that is sort of what I mean.

How will we know that the Republic really has ended? I don't think there will be one moment in time, except perhaps the USSC florida decision, where we are going to be able to look back and say 'that is when it ended, that is when they took over'.

Along the same lines, as they chip away from the inside but leave the facade standing, will we really know when the transition from threat of a totalitarian system to an actual totalitarian system has occurred? Already, piece by piece, we are learning that what they proposed back in '01 - Poindexter's Total Information Awareness program, and then quickly dropped - has actually been more or less completely implemented.