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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:16 PM
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New Zogby poll underway...I LOVE this question
Guess the names....

Which of the following Democratic candidates are your more likely to vote for president?

Candidate A is the governor of a swing state in the Southwest. Candidate A was a congressman before he served as Ambassador to the UN and Secretary of Energy. He is considered to be a moderate in the party. If elected, Candidate A would be the first Hispanic President.

Candidate B is a three term Senator from a swing state in the Midwest. Candidate B is considered liberal, but a maverick in the party willing to take unpopular stances and to take positions against his party. Candidate B is best known for cosponsoring and passing a major campaign finance reform law in the Senate.

Candidate C is a two term Senator and former two-term governor of a Republican state in the Midwest. During his term as governor, he cut taxes, created jobs and created a scholarship program for low-income students. In the Senate Candidate C has been a moderate and not considered to be too partisan.

Candidate D was a former four-star general and NATO supreme commander during the Clinton Administration. He was first in his class at West Point, a Rhodes Scholar, is a decorated Vietnam Veteran, and is a national security expert. He is a successful businessman leading the effort to reduce our dependence on oil. Is a moderate on domestic policy issues and is from the South.

Candidate E is a decorated Vietnam War veteran who is generally considered a liberal. He is regarded as articulate on a wide range of issues. He supported the war in Iraq, but is now critical of how the Bush administration is handling the aftermath. He has been a district attorney, a lieutenant governor, and has been a United States senator from a northeastern state for 20 years.

Candidate F is a former one-term senator from a southern state and former vice presidential nominee. Before entering politics he was a medical malpractice attorney. He is considered a populist candidate and since leaving office has focused his time addressing poverty and inequities in America.

Candidate G is the former one term governor of a southern state. While he was governor, Candidate G's state was rated as the best managed in the country and he was ranked as one of the five best governors by Time magazine. Candidate G left office with high approval ratings and bipartisan support.

Candidate H is a six term Senator from a Northeastern state. In the Senate Candidate H has focused on increasing access to college and cracking down on crime, which includes authoring the Violence Against Women Act. Candidate H is also known as one of the Senate's foremost experts on foreign policy. Candidate H briefly ran for president in 1988, but a plagiarism controversy forced him to withdraw.

Candidate I is a senator from a Northeastern state. Since being elected to the Senate, Candidate I has kept a low profile and often reached out across the aisle, despite being a big name and polarizing figure before entering elective office. If elected Candidate I would be the first Female President.

Candidate J was a two-term governor from a swing state in the Midwest. As governor he has cracked down on sex offenders and the production of methamphetamines. Candidate J is also a staunch opponent of the death penalty. As governor he served on national organizations dedicated to alternative fuels, agriculture and biotechnology. He is also the chair of a group of moderate Democrats.

Candidate K is a former two-term Senator from a small state in the West. Before entering the Senate he served in the Army and his state's legislature. In the Senate he was a prominent opponent of the Vietnam War and through the use of the filibuster was able to force the end of the draft. Since leaving the Senate Candidate K has promoted direct democracy though nationwide ballot initiatives and has been an opponent of the war in Iraq.

hmmmmmmmm..........
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:21 PM
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1. Richardson, Feingold, Nelson, Clark, Kerry, Edwards, Warner,
Biden, Clinton...
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:24 PM
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2. I'll take a stab
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 10:32 PM by Mojambo
A - Richardson

B - Feingold

C - (Doh! Vilsack is a Gov)

D - Clark

E - Kerry

F - Edwards

G - Warner

H - Biden

I - Clinton

I'm struggling with J and K for some reason...
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:41 PM
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12. J -Vilsack and K might by Hart
Zogby is extremely unfair to Kerry here

-Edwards, Clinton, Biden, and Bayh all voted for the war and NONE of them spoke against the war before it started as Kerry did. If he said voted for the IWR it would be true where pro -war was never true. The most pro-war was Edwards - who said he was and who sponsored the amendment.

-So saying Pro-Iraq war ONLY for Kerry is a pretty cheap shot.

This is pretty sleasy.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:19 AM
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23. K has got to be Hart.
Good call.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:46 AM
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24. I really wanted him to win in 1984 and hoped he would again in 1988
I know he considered it in 2004, but have heard nothing in 2008. He would quickly be my second choice. (He would have been an inspired choice for VP in 2004 - being one of the authors with Rudman of the recommendation on terrorism that Bush ignored would balance a 20 yr old affair. He and Kerry had a lot in common on such things as technology and I think foreign policy.)
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:47 PM
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20. Agree with this list
www.john06.com
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:08 AM
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26. I think K is Mike Gravel
He was one of the one's that released the Pentagon Papers.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:25 PM
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3. Last one is Inoyue?
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:38 PM
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9. So J is probably Vilsack then.
I know he's anti-death penalty
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:40 PM
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11. Inouye is still a Senator. The question refers to a former senator, I thin
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:46 PM
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15. Oh yeah, that's what I get for reading and
photoshoppin at the same time
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:27 PM
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4. I responded to that survey yesterday...
That question wore me out. I had to re-read it twice because I kept forgetting who was who by the time I got down to the answer portion.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:31 PM
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5. So who was you answer?
I assume theuestion was woh would you vote for.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:33 PM
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6. I chose hypothetical candidate F, which is real candidate Edwards....
I like the Zogby polls. The Polling Point ones grate on my nerves.
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JordanLFW Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:59 PM
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17. question
The question was at the begining: "Which of the following Democratic candidates are your more likely to vote for president?"
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:37 PM
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7. C, D, G, H
Evan Bayh, Wesley Clark, Mark Warner and Joe Biden are all strong candidates in a national campaign. Candidate I will raise most of her money from Republicans, who will want her to be the Democratic candidate because she will be the easiest of the lot to beat.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:43 PM
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13. Quit the swiftboating.
She'll raise most of her money from the Democrats, but some Democrats keep believing the right wing manipulations to make her look like a conservative. Step away from the Koolaid, and study a bit more. If the Republicans chose a candidate to follow your strategy, they'd push Edwards or Biden. Neither has a chance in hell of being taken seriously.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:19 PM
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18. Candidate I
if she's the standard-bearer, is looking at at 49 state blowout.

Remember 1972?
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:37 PM
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8. Register for future Zogby polls
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yngliberal Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:39 PM
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10. C = Bayh / J = Vilsack / K = Gravel from Alaska
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 10:41 PM by yngliberal
My whole list of answers:

A - Richardson
B - Feingold
C - Bayh
D - Clark
E - Kerry
F - Edwards
G - Warner
I - Clinton
J - Vilsack
K - Gravel (Remember when he announced earlier this year that he was running?)
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 10:16 PM
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34. I would vote for Gravel..if he was ten years younger!
but think about this..if he is elected, Gravel would be older coming into office than Reagan was leaving office. And Reagan was losing it long before 1989!

I agree with all the candidates you named. Feingold is now my favorite choice of the bunch.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:44 PM
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14. "B for a thousand, Alex."
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:54 PM
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22. I'm with you. n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:58 PM
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16. I support Candidate L
A former vice-president who won the 2000 presidential election. The election, however, was decided by a 5:4 Supreme Court coup d'etat usurping the will of the American people. In the private sector, this candidate has focused on the issue of climate change and has received numerous awards for a very successful documentary to that end. He opposed George W. Bush's war on Iraq from the onset and has spoken out forcefully and eloquently against the current administration's illegal and immoral policies.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:35 PM
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19. Why did he do all the ABC stuff? WHy not just name who it is. People
taking the poll would know who they are talking about so why bother with the ABC business - seems sort of silly to me.
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:50 PM
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21. I think it was a pretty good change...
A lot of people will just look at the list of names and pick one (or not pick one) based on the name. By making people read a list of characteristics, it removes the Pavlovian instincts a lot of us have developed when taking these polls. Granted, most of us know who most of these people are, but it allows people to see these candidates in a new light. For the more casual observer, it makes them consider what characteristics are important to them, rather than thinking about the names.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:33 AM
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25. Unfortunately, it lets the pollster bias the result
Here this is clearly biased against Kerry (the only one said to have been pro-war, in spite of the fact that he never was although he did vote for the IWR - while it is not mentioned for any other candidate even though many (Edwards, Clinton, Biden and Bayh) didn't speak aginst the invasion and Kerry did), against Biden (bringing up plagerism), against Edwards (emphasizing trial lawyer)etc

It seems to push Clark and to some degree Hillary and Vilsack.

Think about it is: take the people you work with and use a coin to create 2 groups - then push those with heads by listing only their positives and damn the tails by minimizing their accomplishments and emphasizing negatives. Reverse the groups and then compare the 2 profiles for each.

Give me names!
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:37 AM
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27. I disagree with one part of this description:
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 09:39 AM by Totally Committed
"Candidate D was a former four-star general and NATO supreme commander during the Clinton Administration. He was first in his class at West Point, a Rhodes Scholar, is a decorated Vietnam Veteran, and is a national security expert. He is a successful businessman leading the effort to reduce our dependence on oil. Is a moderate on domestic policy issues and is from the South."

Wes Clark is NOT moderate on domestic issues. Not by a long-shot, and that is one of the main reasons I support him. His equal education plan, universal headstart plan, his tax plan, his health insurance plan, his support for net neutrality and personal pivacy, his support of GLBT issues -- especially his stance on the "archaic" Don't Ask Don't Tell rule in the military, his views on Choice and Women's equality, poverty safety nets, and his fervent belief that ALL PEOPLE ARE EQUAL are ALL -- to the program -- Left Wing and Liberal.

Because he SEEMS "moderate" due to his military background, he is the ideal candidate to attract Red Staters and Values voters in the south and midwest, while still supporting a Liberal Left-Wing social agenda for this Party.

TC

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 11:56 AM
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30. Now that is an accurate report!
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:23 PM
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31. Thanks!
It's all true, too. Wes is a blessing to this Party!

TC
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:41 PM
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32. Yeah, he seems pretty liberal to me
I guess that's why I like him so much. :)

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to vote for somebody that everybody perceives as a moderate but who's really a liberal? Oh that's right I already did cast a vote for him during the 2004 primary season and we got the "far left" Kerry/Edwards as a result of that instead. :eyes:
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:46 AM
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28. LOL...I would vote for Candidate 'D'....everyday of the week...
..and twice on Sunday...

Go candidate 'D'!!!!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 10:20 AM
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29. Yes I took that poll
today, yea, if you know your candidates you can guess who they are just by the description of each. It was pretty obvious who was who.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:56 PM
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33. Candidate F for the Future!
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