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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:31 PM
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Help - having fight with a freeper
who is talking about the wmd's found, sarin gas, saying that they have found this and using as evidence of wmd found in Iraq. Please give me some things to say.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:33 PM
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1. go read the top ten conservative idiots
lots more I am sure
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:33 PM
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2. The Sarin gas tubes they probably found were from years
ago when Saddam gassed the Kurds...

more propaganda...
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:07 PM
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14. Not probably, but for sure

All of this is "old" news, reported on by the Iraq Survey Team years ago.

None of these weapons were in an inventory or stockpile, none were maintained, all appeared to have lost whatever chemical agents that were once stored there, they are likely leftovers from the Iraq/Iran war and were simply lost or discarded.

They never posed a threat to the US or our invading troops, they were not used against us in the invasion, nor by the subsequent insurgency. If Iraq HAD WMDs, even ones that might be degraded, the Iraqi army or the insurgency would have used them by now.

This is just a desperate attempt by Santorum to make people in his state afraid and to vote for him rather than a "cut and run" dem. It's not going to work.

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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:34 PM
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3. Tell him that is not what Bush said he was looking for
That Sarin was old, it was left over from the 1980s I believe. And Bush never once mentioned that he was looking for old weapons.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:35 PM
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4. Say "You're too goddamn stupid to argue with or talk to".
And then let it go. Because he is.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:40 PM
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20. ....
:spray:
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BuddyYoung Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:38 PM
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5. Ask the person for proof that SHussein is responsible for them

being there.
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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:38 PM
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6. The best response is no response. Freepers hate being ignored.
Edited on Mon Jun-26-06 07:39 PM by GrumpyGreg
Insecure bunch.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:20 PM
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19. Or, you could mock him while presenting the facts. Equally effective.
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:38 PM
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7. thanks to all
I'm shaking I'm so pissed off.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:43 PM
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9. Google Santorum + WMD in google news; lots of info
there. Recently Santorum claimed WMDs had been found, but no one, including the state dept, is backing that contention up. Santorum is desperate, way down in the polls, and up for reelection.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:39 PM
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8. You will find at this link that we gave them the materials
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/arming_iraq.php

and they were old as dirt.

They couldn't make the "mushroom cloud" that GWB & staff warned everyone about.

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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:50 PM
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10. Insist that he use direct quotes from Bush himself.
Ask why Bush has not held a major press conference, trumpteting this bombshell news.

Ask why Bush himself never says any of these things.

Anytime someone claims "They found WMDs" I immediately ask for a link to Bush's announcement of the fact.

Then, after they come up empty, say "Well,if Bush is not announcing this seemingly important news, then there must be nothing to it."
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:54 PM
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11. tell 'em the ONLY thing FOUND is MORE DRUGS in rush's luggage!!!...
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:59 PM
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13. LOL
:thumbsup:
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:54 PM
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12. It's true!
There was a press conference about it last week!
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:11 PM
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15. And they continue to find old shells in WWII and WWI battlefields.
BFD.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:12 PM
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16. And ask this Freepig why he has to dumb down the definition of WMD
And then stop wasting your time arguing with a knuckle-dragger.
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:15 PM
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17. you all are the greatest!!!
just printed out info, including the santorum/mustard thingie, very funny. One last thing, where can I find the vote where the repubs didn't want any oversite over war profiteering?
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:18 PM
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18. Quick facts about Sarin and other relevant things.
Sarin, under the best of conditions is potent for a very short time (weeks to months). Sarin buried in the desert for 20 years is not optimum conditions and this was essentially just toxic sludge, not WMD.

Munitions are found throughout any country that has had a war or military build-up of any sort.

Not too long ago, on a US base near Washington, biologic weapons were found buried when they were doing construction. Does this mean the US is in violation of treaties to not develop biological weapons?

These were not the weapons we went to war for. These were merely left over munitions from the Iran-Iraq war (and we supported Iraq at the time those weapons were buried) and like any warzone, they were buried and forgotten.
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