Feingold is saying all the right things

[joeprogressive]

I can't find one thing that I don't like about this guy. I even agree with his stance on John Roberts. Does anyone out there have anything on him that would keep you from supporting his primary bid? It just seems like Clark/Feingold or Feingold/Clark is the untouchable dream team.

[Sugarcoated]

1. That IS the dream team.

Either way it's a winner.

He is a master at selling his ideas - he turned my husband around on the timetable amendment. He said people have to see this guy - he's concerned that not enough people will. I heard someone on here once say to see Russ is to like him and that is the truth.

[AuntiBush]

19. He Sure is a winner - Feingold that is.

Wow. Did you see him on Meet the Press this morning? Shew...

[chieftain]

2. Russ was great. Fat Timmy's efforts to trip him up were easily

handled. I was a Clarkie in '04 and continue to be impressed with the General. I think Feingold has been marvelous as one of the Democrats' most effective critic of the criminal regime which has taken power in Dc. I would be happy with either Wes or Russ and ecstatic if the '08 ticket had both of them whatever the order that their names appeared.

[durrrty libby]

3. If Gore doesn't want it, I will support him. He's great

I want Gore first because we need a visionary and someone with superior diplomatic

skills. I know Gore has those qualities,and I'm sure Feingold will develop them.

[Olney Blue]

10. I agree with you.

[pstans]

4. Feingold is not only saying the right things, he is doing the right things

I agree Feingold should be on the ticket in 08. Feingold has the charisma and the simple midwestern way about him, but you can tell he is intelligent. He is a fighter and when he says something you can actually believe him.

www.russforpresident.com

[joeprogressive]

6. totally agree, he backs it all up

n/t

[ladjf]

7. He's definitely in the top two most capable Democrats. (Gore is

the other)

[joeprogressive]

9. I agree, I would rank the top three in capability like this

1. Gore
2. Feingold
3. Clark

What will it take to get Gore to run?

[ladjf]

11. I would be very enthusiastic if any two of that three received the

nomination.

Re: Gore: I think he is looking for a draft and if he gets it, he will win UNLESS the vote machine are too rigged to overcome them.

[hippiechick]

5. I was at U-WI when Russ ran back in the 90's ...

.. he would drop by campus & meet with his volunteer crew. Really impressed me, all around. And though I was already volunteering on a different race, I had serious thoughts about giving time to his campaign too.


Gore/Feingold '08 :loveya: :applause: Oh yeah!

[joeprogressive]

8. I leave Gore out b/c last week, he made it clear he wasn't running

What did he say on Letterman?

[ladjf]

14. He keeps repeating that he has no PLANS to run. I believe thats

political speak for a non-commitment on the subject.

[heidiho]

12. He has been divorced twice and I'm afraid the GOP will use that

to smear him. Also, he is Jewish and I'm not sure in the end if that will play well with Americans.

However, I love and admire Russ tremendously and will wholeheartedly support him if he chooses to run.

He is MY Senator and I am so proud of him.

[joeprogressive]

15. That is possible but I don't remember the multiple marriages

thing coming up regarding Kerry. I guess the swift boating overshadowed it. If the right didn't have anything else, they would surely use it. They didn't have anything on Gore so they created the lying thing and used the internet as their weak example.

[tblue37]

29. Ronald Reagan was also divorced. (eom)

[tinfoilinfor2005]

33. They will not elect a Jew.

Stone me and flame me but I really believe this. I don't think a non white or non Christian stands a chance in this country at this time. I don't agree with these people, but I'm just saying, they will stand up against Feingold or Obama as surely as they would stand up against a gay man. And if you don't believe me, look who their choice was in the last two elections. Intelligent people would not have done this.

[bklyncowgirl]

34. People who would not vote for a Jew are not going to vote Dem anyway

The divorces are another thing. While the man's private life is his own business, are he and his exes on good terms--or at least bought off? Remember Joanna Corzine.

My concern about him is that he doesn't seem to play well with others. Now this might just be because so many Democrats are unwilling to take a stand on issues he considers vital but it could be a part of his personality.

For that reason, I prefer Gore but if he doesn't run I will support Feingold.

By the way, I love the Feingold/Clark ticket. Clark would give the ticket some military credibility and with a straight shooter like Russ that would be a very powerful combination.

[BenDavid]

36. I agree 100% with your words

in the Subject line, and at the present whomever the Dems choose as their presidential candidate should have Clark as the VP. Clark can be the calming influence in military matters....and will give the people of America reason to support whomever....

[Cocoa]

39. you are so wrong

people who say this always say "this is not what I think, etc." but in fact I do think that stating Russ can't get elected because he's Jewish is more a statment about the person saying it than about Russ's chances.

Not racism or antisemitism, imo, but a really misplaced preoccupation with his Jewishness. And it doesn't matter if the person saying it is Jewish by the way.

The people saying it never present any evidence that Jewishness will hurt him, they just state it.

And there's plenty of evidence on the other side. Russ has won three times for Senate, and Lieberman won for VP in 2000 and he's Jewish, for example.

Again, you are so wrong. Your statement is wrong on the facts and you are wrong for letting yourself think this and say it.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

41. That is your opinion.

In my opinion, you are naive.

[Cocoa]

43. why doesn't anyone say it about Lieberman?

and does the fact that Lieberman won in 2000 and Russ has won three times in Wisconsin moderate your thinking any?

[sybylla]

45. Oh, yeah, like Wisconsin is one giant Jewish state

Who the hell do you think elects him here? Certainly the liberal covens of Madison and Milwaukee pull their share of the vote, but Feingold won my seriously redneck and borderline republican county by 12% in 2004. And he's won counties that are far more smalltown and backwoods than mine. We're talking about counties that have both kinds of religion: Lutheran and Catholic.

Russ' religion has never been an issue in any of his three elections in this state. Why? I'd like to think it's because we don't stoop to that kind of politicking here but I'm sure it's not. More likely it's the fact that the conservatives have been courting the Jewish vote and aren't likely to want to make it an issue that would turn them and their wallets away. Perhaps that won't hold true for a national election, but they never played that card when Lieberman ran as VP in 2000. You would think they would have then if they were going to at all.

[ldf]

44. multiple marriages is a non-issue

just list every republican in congress, with # of marriages.

no brainer.

[MADem]

13. I agree, he IS the sharpest knife in the drawer

His performance on Meet the Potatohead was masterful.

The thing that might trip him up is the idiotic heartland voter who wants him to have a Ward and June Cleaver family life. He's been married twice, and presently has no "little woman" to look adoringly at him. Remember how they nailed Kerry to the cross, because Teresa wasn't sufficiently subservient?

See this "packs like a girl" business: http://blogs.suntimes.com/pickett/2006/06/russ_feingold_packs_like_a_gir.html
http://www.wonkette.com/politics/russ-feingold/poor-russ-feingold-182611.php

You know where the Rovers are gonna try to go with this....

[ClassWarrior]

16. Don't you realize by now that the Rovers are going to dig up SOMETHING...

...no matter who's the candidate? Screw 'em. We need someone who will SMACK DOWN their crap. That's Russ.

NGU.

[MADem]

25. Of course they are, but he is more vulnerable than many

In any event, he'll be a fine addition to the primary. He has a way of speaking plainly and confidently that is most heartwarming. And he has the ability to focus the debate on matters the GOP would prefer to gloss over.

[ClassWarrior]

26. How?

I contend he is LESS vulnerable than many, because he has the cajones to smack back at this kind of crap. Unlike so many of the deer in the headlights who want to represent us.

NGU.

[MADem]

27. They love to go after people for things that have nothing to do with

politics. They'll accuse him of being "anti-family" because of his two divorces. They'll "speculate" as to the reasons for them. Is he a wife beater? Is he (ooooh) GAY??? They'll try to fire up the nitwit base (which is full of divorces, only they conveniently forget their own--oh, that was DIFFERENT) with innuendo and speculation.

Of course, all of that speculation will go by the wayside if Giuliani ends up as the candidate, but if either the Catkiller or Howdy Doody Allen make the cut, and the matchup comes down to one of those assholes v. Feingold, all I can say is COUNT on that approach.

To do anything else is to be naive.

[ClassWarrior]

28. I've come to EXPECT that approach from these slimeballs.

To let that make us second-guess ourselves and our values is to be naive.

NGU.

[MADem]

30. Who said anything about "second guessing ourselves?"

I pointed out a political REALITY. Idealism isn't gonna make that go away.

It's gonna happen if he makes the cut, unless he runs against Rudy. The only thing his operatives can do is be prepared for it. And to be unprepared IS to be naive.

[ClassWarrior]

31. It's gonna happen no matter WHO makes the cut.

Of course to be unprepared is to be naive. What's your point?

NGU.

[MADem]

32. My point, which I thought I made clearly, is that he is especially

vulnerable due to his personal life. Al Gore was not vulnerable in that fashion. They had to cheat to beat him.

What's your point??? I state a fact, that he has a vulnerability, and you jump all over me, as though by continuously giving me shit, it will make the fact go away. It's a fact that needs to be countered should he make the cut. That's all.

[ClassWarrior]

40. My point, which I thought I made clearly, is that...

...it really doesn't matter what's the candidate's vulnerability - or whether he or she even has a "vulnerability." We're all the way through Rove's Looking Glass here.

What matters is having the ability, willingness, and fortitude to decisively address such nonsense. And Russ has it.

(looking back at post #16... yup, that's what I've been saying all along...)

NGU.

[MADem]

42. Whatever.

[Radical Activist]

17. I don't like some of his confirmation votes.

But if he does become President he can use that against the Republicans when he makes his own appointments.

I also think Edwards and Russ are a better match. They have populist messages that compliment eachother. That ticket would play well in Peoria and the South.

[AuntiBush]

18. Nope! But would prefer a Feingold/

Kerry, Edwards or Gore ticket, rather then Clark.

I like Clark, but he represents military in my eyes. We need someone on the Feingold ticket that represents sanity, rationale, and exit strategies (out and out, not dragging of the political feet) for the mess in Iraq and no-fear speaking for our lost democracies. When I think of that latter peron, Kerry, Edwards and Gore come to mind.

When I think and see Russ, who's getting better with each and every interview if that's possible, I see a Statesman not afraid to speak truth to the powers. That alone is what the Americans can attach themselves too during these trying times.

:kick:

[TwilightZone]

24. Just curious - how does Clark represent military, but Kerry doesn't?

Of course, I realize that one was career military and one wasn't, but Kerry certainly hasn't shied away from highlighting the military portion of his resume. It is a significant part of who he is.

And, just to be clear, I'd fully support either one of them. I do not mean this to be a Kerry vs. Clark post. I'm genuinely curious why you'd discount Clark because of his military background and not discount Kerry for similar reasons.

[undeterred]

20. He is as good as he seems.

And he's squeaky clean. The negatives for president are that he is twice divorced and Jewish, and those things shouldn't matter, but they do to some voters. He never loses his cool. He listens to people. He is strong but never nasty. In Wisconsin you meet a lot of people who voted for Feingold for Senator and Bush for president. Go figure.

[ananda]

21. Go!

I could support any ticket with Feingold on it.

Gore-Feingold
Clark-Feingold
Edwards-Feingold
Kerry-Feingold

Or Feingold at the top.

He's great!

Sue

[joeprogressive]

22. I am good with everyone on that list because they either voted against

the war originally, consistently spoke out against the war or they have said their vote was a mistake. Hillary doesn't fit any of those bills.

[BigBearJohn]

23. I would vote for either Gore/Clark or Gore/Feingold or Clark/Feingold

or basically any combination of the above.

[weeve]

35. Well, they may be too young to vote THIS time , but ...

[bluem]

37. That is the most adorable thing I've seen in a while...nt

[sutz12]

38. I like the idea of new blood on the ticket.

Gore is great, and I think he would do a great job, but has too many connections to the Clintons. Kerry? I don't know.

Clark/Feingold and even Edwards are fresh faces with fresh, progressive ideas and ideals.

[MODemocrat]

46. I'm becoming very fond of Feingold

He's an in-he-face kind of leader, and he does seem to know how to say all the right things. He's so
spontaneous; and yes, I'll definitely support him/and anyone he would choose for his running mate.:toast: :thumbsup: :loveya: