Video: David Sirota confirms John Stossel's a "smarmy-looking liar"

[Human Torch]

WARNING: Clip takes a L-O-N-G time to load...but it's worth it. Sirota doesn't back down. Also make sure to click the Working For Change link below and read Sirota's own comments regarding the exchange.

:patriot:



http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/06/18.html#a8763

http://www.workingforchange.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=E7C217D6-FED2-3972-0D151CE43A760919

KUDLOW: All right. John Stossel, author of "Myths, Lies and Downright Stupidity" and Dave Sirota, author of "Hostile Takeover." We're going to look at the minimum wage. According to Mr. Stossel, the myth is: A higher minimum wage helps workers. The truth is: A higher minimum wage helps some workers but hurts others. John, your thought.

Mr. STOSSEL: We all want to raise people's wages, but assuming the government can just set the wage is--better than supply and demand--is such nonsense. It assumes every employer has a fixed number of workers. But we don't have people washing windshields in gas station anymore because the minimum wage makes it foolish to hire a kid, to give an entry level worker a shot.

KUDLOW: This thing's back in Congress. A lot of states are either passing it or discussing it. How many people get the minimum wage across the country? This is a data from your own book.

Mr. STOSSEL: Three percent.

KUDLOW: Bingo. Dave Sirota, 3 percent, and it hurts some people. What's your take?

Mr. SIROTA: Well, listen, John, I would encourage you stop reciting these dishonest talking points and the chatter you're hearing on the cocktail party circuit because the stats don't bear that out in any way at all. And here are the stats that you cannot dispute. In states that have raised the minimum wage, above the federal level, those states have created jobs at a far faster rate than the states that have not. That is because, when you raise the minimum wage, you put money into the pockets of people who will spend it and it spurs the economy. Now, that might not be heard in your book which purports to debunk lies, but those are the facts.

Mr. STOSSEL: Well, if those are the facts, why stop at $7. We should pay everybody 20 bucks, 40 bucks an hour. Then we'll really have buying power. It's just...

Mr. SIROTA: You're changing the subject. You're changing the subject because you know you're wrong.

Mr. STOSSEL: Well, the study side, and I now realize who you are because you, on my Amazon page, he came on and said, `I'm a smarmy-looking liar.'

Mr. SIROTA: You are.

http://blip.tv/file/42657

[Benhurst]

1. I'll second that!

:rofl:

[Supersedeas]

9. thirdsies

[Vinnie From Indy]

2. Stossell is a smarmy looking liar.

That is in addition to being pretty much wrong about everything and a right wing lap dog. Hat's off to Sirota! His attitude is what is greatly needed by the left.

[eleny]

3. Here's Amazon's page with Sirota's review

I rated it helpful to me. It's review #65:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/1401302548/ref=cm_rev_next/103-6112445-6883007?%5Fencoding=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=-SubmissionDate&n=283155&s=books&customer-reviews.start=21

There are some other great reviews to read about the book. Another one on the same page as Sirota's is by Dirk Deigler. Check it out. His review is #26 and it's clever.

[Human Torch]

4. Sirota certainly didn't mince words...

...thanks for posting this!

:patriot:

[eleny]

5. You're welcome and welcome to DU!

:hi:

[BillZBubb]

6. Wow, we need more spokesmen like Sirota!

"You are!". If all our spokespeople had that tell it like it is, take no prisoners attitude, Democrat's standing in the polls would go up 10% immediately.

[AzDar]

7. Succinct and spot-on! n/t

[rhett o rick]

8. Stossel is another elitist snob.

He said:
Mr. STOSSEL: "We all want to raise people's wages, but assuming the government can just set the wage is--better than supply and demand--is such nonsense."

First of all does the "we all" that want to raise people's wages include corporations and the wealthy??? Just who does john mean when he says "we".

My second issue with this statement is that John seems so interested in letting "supply and demand" determine wages, wonder if he thinks that should apply to Congress. Currently they get to decide their own wages.

[iconoclastNYC]

10. David's book Hostile Takeover is AWESOME!

Page after page it gives you to the goods to knock down all the lies that the corporations-first RNC-DLC movement has established as conventional wisdom.

[PaDem]

11. the old "what's next, twenty bucks an hour?".......

routine is so tired. All the republican mouth pieces trumpet this.

[TheFarseer]

12. Everything that butthole says is a lie

or at least a gross mis-representation of the facts. I suppose CAFTA produced millions of jobs in America, outsourcing is good, cutting taxes produces more revenue and lower CAFE standards actually encourage conservation. And and don't forget, we have such a huge deficit because farmers get paid to not raise corn. Oh, that was 10 years ago? Well, it's probably Cadillac Welfare moms then :eyes: