New John Kerry post at Huffington Post on Ann Coulter & the 9/11 families

[Luftmensch067]

I agree with his outrage and love the way he wrote this!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-kerry/shameless-but-the-real-s_b_22505.html

[MH1]

1. Excellent post by Kerry.

A part of it, for those who don't want to leave DU for some reason.

Want to really irk Ann Coulter and at the same time help take these womens' brave fight a little closer to victory?

Get on the phone to any television program that has Ann Coulter on, and demand they press her not on her callous attacks, but on which recommendations of the 9/11 Commission she thinks should be forgotten. Which ports does she think should be left unsecured. Make the 9/11 widows' issues follow this fool everywhere she goes.

And take Peter Daou's cue -- he's got a very smart take on this: make the Republicans who think Coulter's so witty own her repellant words. Read what Peter wrote at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-daou/tim-russert-will-you-ask_b_22447.html . Make her a liability -- and test whether the GOP is ashamed of Ann Coulter, or just embarassed by her.

But above all, don't forget what these strong, tough women of 9/11 have done for all of us. They've got more class and grit and character than Ann Coulter will ever know.

[Kurovski]

6. Coulter will be on Lou Dobbs today. it will be interesting to see

how he handles the renegade crackpot.

[blm]

7. Send Lou the Kerry entry - there are some solid quotes in there.

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[blm]

2. That's the whole thing - Bush and Coulter use demagoguery as a political

cover for their failed words and actions, while people like Kerry and the Jersey girls want the tragedy used OPENLY to PREVENT another one from happening. They seek SOLUTIONS, while Bush and Coulter seek to cover their lying asses and actions with hateful rhetoric and fervent coverups.

[ProSense]

4. Did Bush condemn Ms. Evil's statement?

[MH1]

5. Excellent question.

But for some reason, my gut is telling me not to hold my breath.

[beaconess]

17. No - only Black people are called on to denounce one another's statements

regardless how unconnected they are.

[blm]

18. That is SO TRUE - the media questions Obama on every controversial

statement uttered by a black person in public. It's just so predictable and so sickening.

[beaconess]

34. Even worse is when they put two Blacks on to argue with each other

about something a third Black person said.

They would never THINK of inviting Black guests on to discuss their opinions on health care or the economy or Iraq or homeland security. But let Joe Lowery or Bill Cosby say something controversial (at least in their minds), and the network bookers fall all over themselves to get Black people on their programs to debate each other.

It's sickening!

[blm]

35. Sickening, craven, cynical and PREDICTABLE.

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[ProSense]

3. "...angry harangue of a book."

Coulter is counting on this "controversy" to get her ink and sell her angry harangue of a book.

LOL!

[Canuckistanian]

8. I loved this comment

"Next time you go to Borders or any other book store take copies of Coulter's book and hide them around the store. I find the gay and lesbian section a good spot."

[TayTay]

9. This was a great smackdown

and a good call for what Dems can do to call Coulter and the Rethugs on their actions.

I loved this post. It was very well written.

[_dynamicdems]

10. Great post by the senator. He makes some good suggestions about

action we can take.

I'm also glad that he talked about the fact that not all of the recommendations of the 911 Commission have been implemented.



Hmmm....I wonder what that first thought of the senator's might have been...

"unprintable" :rofl: I'll bet it was indeed!

:evilgrin:

[TheDonkey]

11. Excellent post by Kerry, sums it up very well

Great read.

[globalvillage]

12. I posted a comment.

Jesus, can some people not feel empathy for these women? Do they not understand their patriotism? I don't get it. And how can they not applaud anyone who defends 9/11 widows?

Great post by Sen Kerry.

[petgoat]

13. Support the Widows

Read the ratings by Mindy Kleinberg and Lorie van Auken of the 9/11
Commission's (non-) reponses to their questions:

http://www.justicefor911.org/Appendix4_FSCQuestionRatin...

Sign the Petition of Solidarity to ask the Attorney General of the State
of New York and the District Attorney of the Borough of Manhattan to open
urgent new investigations into 9/11:

http://www.justicefor911.org/

[althecat]

14. There is a part of me that nevertheless also considers Kerry a coward

RFK Jnr has repeatedly said that the quote in his article does not represent the Senator's complete views?

Perhaps JFK could say this publicly....

[Mass]

15. I love people who call others coward behind the anonymity of a blog\nt

[althecat]

20. I am far from anonymous around here...

[blm]

16. For a start - he told a group last week that electronic voting machines

need to be banned state by state.

I have no idea what is coming down the pike - I do know that Jonathan Winer believes machine fraud, and that's not nothing - he's the security expert who helped tracked down IranContra and BCCI's network. I wish I knew more, but I don't.

I do believe that Kerry doesn't even blink when hordes of DUers declare he's a wimp or a coward - the man has chased down a guy with a shoulder rocket firing at his crew, put himself through heavy gunfire to save a guy in the water, protested Vietnam, testified to Congress, prosecuted and put away MAFIA figures, worked alone for over a year to uncover IranContra, worked another 5 years to uncover BCCI - which were probably more dangerous to his life than Vietnam, exposed CIA drugrunning, wrote a book about terror networks 5 years before 9-11, and took every arrow from the 2004 campaign that was shot at him, and is still standing working for us.

And so far, he's the only one we have at this point who even realizes the machines are the problem.

You realize how frustrating it is working on something for the few years you have been - fighting corruption isn't easy - Kerry's been doing it for decades now, and the arrows keep coming - - even from those on his own side who should know better.

I seriously doubt that Kerry would call anyone who has worked to expose any corruption a coward even if their work is on a small scale - it's not easy ANY time you do it - he knows.

[althecat]

22. In that respect I seriously regret what I said....

Good argument. He is a hero not a coward.

In Particular you said... "I seriously doubt that Kerry would call anyone who has worked to expose any corruption a coward even if their work is on a small scale - it's not easy ANY time you do it - he knows."

He is obviously not a coward, and my post is duly accorded the status of flame bait.... but OTOH it would also be good if Kerry found himself capable of finally standing up on this voting fraud issue. For as long as he vascillates he allows people like RFK and MCM to get shot at with impunity by complete fwits like Tucker Carlson and Wolf Blitzer.

[blm]

28. I never took your post as flamebait - I take it as a sign that a

person who has involved themself in the issue of a corrupt voting system is getting increasingly frustrated by the lack of attention paid to such an important issue.

People who go after corruption take on an incredibly heavy task, because there are almost always more people set in place to block you than there are in place to help. And that is why I trust that Kerry has been through these minefields before, and he will be very careful to pursue the goal without blowing himself up in the process. Not easy to do in politics when your enemy controls most of the broadcast media.

[LittleClarkie]

19. But this particular thread isn't about RFK or the Rolling Stone

What is the reason for the non sequitor. You saw the name John Kerry and you reckoned that whatever beef you were having with him belonged in this thread as if any thread about him is a catchall for grievances.

What does what you consider him re: the election have to do with Ann Coulter, 9/11, or widows? How is he a coward in relation to Ann Coulter, 9/11 or widows?

[althecat]

21. Excellent....

We should let our politicians decide what is important and what is not and only talk about what is important.

I made this remark because as he wrote this comment piece JFK would have been well aware that RFK was getting a thorough kicking over his RS piece - he would also be well aware that a key talking point in that kicking is for the detractors to tell RFK that he could not even convince the candidate of his theory. Moreover he would also be well aware that RFK's response has been to consistently say that these detractors are misrepresenting the senator's views. Which I am certain they are.

Meanwhile it is not the first time this has happened.. When Mark Crispin Miller's book came out MCM was hung out to dry in effectively exactly the same manner.

Therefore I suggest the honourable thing for JFK to do... if he is willing to support the efforts of the likes of MCM and RFK privately... would be to now start to do so publicly. If he were to do so the entire vote fraud issue would get an enormous boost.

Instead he chose to criticise Ann Coulter... something which she doubtless deserves but an action that will nevertheless most probably help her to sell her book.

So I apologise if I offended anyone..... but that is what I think.

[ProSense]

23. Why not go to the other site and post your comments directly to Kerry? n/t

[althecat]

24. Because I am coward and he is not....

See my response above to BLM...

And I probably only said what I did coz I am a bit frustrated....

:)

[blm]

31. and that is how I understood it. ;)))

keepin ' on, cuz there IS no other option.

[karynnj]

40. Did you ever think that Kerry has the right to

decide precisely what to say and when to say it. It seems to me that he has brought up more issues with the voting process than any other likely candidate and almost all politicians. It also seems that his statements are extremely percise and totally defendable, as they need be to maintain his credibility.

MCM used a passing comment - accurately rendered or not - to make a story that backed the central thesis of his then new book. (Even the MCM's version, when Kerry responded "yeah" to his comment, MCM had no questions for him - put yourself in MCM's position, would you have dropped the issue? At any rate, MCM wrote what he knew would be a partisan controversial book - as 2 others were. Kerry owed him nothing - he used Kerry.

RFK, jr is different. He clearly spoke to Kerry. Kerry's comments in the article are fine and reflect what is provable. RFK is a smart man and chose to lead this effort - both Dean and Kerry gave him interviews. But even here, Kerry has to be more careful to say only what is completely provable. I saw NO ONE here criticise Gore for doing exactly that in a recent interview - and 2000 is far more provable.

Kerry was right to criticise Coulter and to defend the woman hurt so badly by 911 - he is correct that they have kids and family who could hear this. It's clear that he doesn't see this as politics but as a very personal, hurtful thing that Coulter did without caring who she hurts. Kerry also knows that, as much as anything else, it was support of him in 2004, that motivated her to attack them.

[althecat]

43. Yes and no...

Yes of course he has the right to do and say what he wants.

No he is wrong to equivocate on this issue.... and no he is also wrong to wait till the case can be PROVEN. IT WILL ONLY EVEN BE PROVEN AFTER THE DEMOCRATIC ESTABLISHMENT START TAKING IT SERIOUSLY AND LOOKING AND INVESTIGATING.

How likely is it that a citizen led completely amateur effort is going to find the proof. Especially when the people whom their efforts are designed to help actively undermine them at every opportunity (not Kerry but plenty others.)

[karynnj]

44. At the moment, the Democrats

including Kerry do not have the authority or power to investigate other than as private citizens. I assume that we might investigate with supoena power if we win back a branch of government.

It's clear we have to disagree on what Kerry should do now. I think Al Gore has a much easier case to prove that he really won - studies have shown that a recount of the whole state of FL ends with him winning. This doesn't use the harassment arguments or the felons list argument. The arguments for Kerry are that there was widespread voter suppression - by several methods including overseas voting. Kerry (and Teresa) have spoken more about voting problems than Gore has.

I disagree with the word equivocate - he has been very consistent but (in public) has limited himself to what can be proven.

[saltpoint]

38. But RFK Jr.'s RS piece has already been edited, editor-ok'd and is on

the stands right now -- if you can find a copy. Many places are sold out.

When I consider Senator Kerry politically, or what I have read about him personally and socially in regard to his biography and his marriages and his relationship with his children and step-children, not to mention the years of public service and stands on issues, I don't come up with the term 'coward.'

How it is that I could have missed what's so obvious to you?

What elements to you add up in his multi-decade public life that equal 'coward'?

[LeahD]

25. If anyone wants to contact media outlets about her upcoming appearances,

here's a link to her book tour....

http://www.anncoulter.com/welcome.html

[blm]

39. Severe Tire Damage Knees Coulter - coming to a parking lot near you.

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[CAG]

26. Kerry isn't perfect, therefore he's a stinkin loser; also, Clintons not

perfect, therefore he's a RW jerk; for that matter, Dennis Kucinich once stepped on an ant!!! I saw it with my own eyes!!! And someone dares call that man an environmentalist....

;-) :sarcasm:

My gawd, some of these posts on this thread and other that just trash Kerry for not standing for each and every issue that you, I, or your uncle believe in are just amazing. I get so sick of people griping about Kerry for not fighting the 04 election further; as if he didn't want it any more than any of the rest of us. He basically slept about 2 hours a freakin night criss-crossing the country for 2 years straight trying to win the damn election; I think that means he really really really really wanted it.

[exlrrp]

27. Say it with Magic Marker!!!

I carry a marking pen when I go into book stores and keep score on how many of her books I can put swastikas in. I then place them in the Science Fiction. I I also write pithy comments in her books about the intellect and ancestry of her fans . I figure when enough of us start doing this, the bookstores will realize that theyre losing too much money stocking her books. Thats the way to hit corporations: in the pocketbook
Its a small payback but I enjoy it

[BamaLefty]

29. He called her a fool!

WTG Kerry. Kick her ass.

[blm]

30. That would be a perfectly accurate dismissive term for all of us to use -

Coulter is a fool. No further comment necessary. End of story.

[WildEyedLiberal]

32. That was my favorite part

:evilgrin:

[flyarm]

33. here is a copy of that whores book tour.call and make yourself heard

I copied this schedule for Coulter's booktour.....in case you're interested in sounding off on any of them. please do!!!!!!!! get this fucking witch!!


Wednesday, June 7, 2006
7:45 am Fox News Channel – National Fox & Friends
2:00 – 5:00 pm Nationally Syndicated Sean Hannity Radio Show
11:00 – 11:30 pm Fox News Radio – National Alan Colmes Radio

Thursday June 8, 2006
7:30 – 7:45 am Salem Radio Network — National Bill Bennett’s Morning in America
11:05 – 11:17 am Cox Radio Syndication — National The Neil Boortz Show
1:05 – 1:25 pm KVI – Seattle, WA The John Carlson Show
1:30 – 1:40 pm WABC – New York, NY The Mark Simone Show
2:30 – 3:00 pm WMUZ Christian Radio – Detroit, MI Bob Dutko Show
4:00 pm Fox News Channel – National Your World with Neil Cavuto
6:00 pm CNN – National Lou Dobbs Tonight
7:30 – 7:55 pm Radio America – National Michael Reagan Show
8:00 – 8:30 pm KKLA – Los Angeles, CA Frank Pastore Show
8:35 – 8:45 pm Fox News Radio – National The John Gibson Show
10:00 – 10:15 pm KPAM – Portland, ORD Victoria Taft Show

Friday, June 9, 2006
6:40 – 7:00 am WEEI – Boston, MA Dennis and Callahan with John Dennis and Gerry Callahan
7:00 – 7:20 am WWBA – Tampa, FL The Morning Magazine
7:36 – 7:57 am WWTN – Nashville, TN The Steve Gill Show
8:05 – 8:20 am WFLA – Orlando, FL The Pat Campbell Show
8:30 – 9:00 am WCWA – Toledo, OH The Troy Neff Show
9:05 – 9:30 am WGST – Atlanta, GA Denny Radio with Denny Schaffer
9:35 – 9:55 am WAAV – Wilmington, NC Rhonda Bellamy Show
10:25 – 10:30 am WREC – Memphis, TN Memphis Morning News
1:00 pm Fox News Channel — National Dayside with Juliet Huddy and Mike Jerrick
4:00 – 5:00 pm Michael Medved Show 6:00pm CNBC – National Kudlow and Company

Saturday, June 10, 2006
12:10 – 12:40 pm KVTT – Dallas, TX (also syndicated) The Gary DeMar Show
8:00pm Fox News Channel – National Heartland with John Kasich

Sunday June 11, 2006
8:06 – 8:40 pm WRKO – Boston, MA Pundit Review with Kevin Walen and Gregg Jackson
9:06 – 9:32 pm KOGO – San Diego, CA The Steve Yuhas Show
9:35 – 9:55 pm WDBO – Daytona each, FL The Andrea Shea-King Show

Monday, June 12, 2006
7:40 – 7:48 am WGST – Atlanta, GA AM Atlanta with Thom Hughes
7:50 – 8:00 am WBAL – Baltimore, MD The Dave Dorian Morning Show
8:10 – 8:25 am WKRC – Cincinnati, OH 55KRC Morning Show with Craig Kopp and Jerry Thomas
8:30 – 8:40 am KFTK – St. Louis, MO Allman and Smash in the Morning
8:45 – 8:57 am WTIC – Hartford, CT Mornings with Ray (Dunaway) and Diane (Smith)
9:05 – 9:17 am KCOL – Loveland, CO Mornings with Keith and Gayle
10:05 – 10:25 am Salem Radio Network – National Mike Gallagher Show
1:45 – 1:55 pm Nationally Syndicated Ed Shultz Show
2:00 – 3:00 pm Salem Radio Network — National Denis Prager
4:00 – 4:30 pm WRKO – Boston, MA The Howie Carr Show
4:35 – 4:55 pm KOGO – San Diego, CA The Mark Larson Show
5:00 pm Fox News Channel — National The Big Story with John Gibson
6:00 – 6:15 pm KCBI – Dallas, TX Jerry Johnson Live!
6:30 – 7:00 pm Westwood One – National Lars Larson Show
7:05 – 7:15 pm KLIF – Dallas, TX The Greg Knapp Show

Tuesday, June 13, 2006
5:00 – 6:00 pm WBT – Charlotte, NC The Brian Wilson Show
6:30 – 6:40 pm WPHT – Philadelphia, PA The Suzanne LaFankie Show

Wednesday, June 14, 2006
11:00 – 11:05 am KEX – Portland, OR Saturday Morning Update with Steve Lindsley
11:15 – 11:55 am American Family Radio (AFR) – National Today’s Issues
3:35 – 3:55 pm KFAB — Omaha, NE The Tom Becka Show
4:05 – 4:25 pm Ave Maria Radio Network Kresta in the Afternoon with Al Kresta
5:06 – 5:20 pm WFLA – Orlando, FL Bug Hedinger LIVE
6:30 – 7:00 pm Fox News Channel – National The O’Reilly Factor

[saltpoint]

36. dupe.

[saltpoint]

37. I volunteered for Kerry because I believed he would make by far the

superior chief executive to the incumbent.

That's the broad stroke. In detail, Kerry looks even better.

In this incident with Coulter, he puts the responsibility on the Republicans as a whole group, insisting that they either endorse her bile and divisive comments or disavow themselves of them.

Not bad at all. the FOX News Republicans gave us Coulter; Kerry says own her or shut up.

I like it.

[blm]

41. I like the way he thinks immediately about working for SOLUTIONS to

the problems that caused those women to be widows. Problems that have still not been addressed reasonably for 5 years.

[saltpoint]

42. Exactly. Even the Reagan White House knew enough to address a

high-profile concern like this.

Those women are unassailably persuasive, and the GOP's strategy of ignoring them (and Coulter's impulse to trash them) comes at an enormous cost.