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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 10:23 AM
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Howard's Road
Edited on Thu Dec-25-03 10:24 AM by RogueTrooper
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They say that confession is good for the soul, so here’s mine: Howard Dean was not my first choice of candidates to face George W. Bush in the 2004 election. He is not as liberal as I am – and yes, conservative media pundits, calling Dean a far-left liberal is far from an accurate portrayal of the man’s record – and as this is primary season, I was afforded the opportunity to choose among a broad field of contenders. Had I been given my druthers, I would have seen either Dennis Kucinich or John Kerry run away and hide with the nomination.

Which brings us to the old folk saying: “If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.” In all electoral likelihood, it will be the former Governor of Vermont who will run away and hide with the nomination. No votes have been cast yet, and the official score in the primary race is still zero to zero to zero to zero to zero to zero to zero to zero. But if polling numbers in Iowa and New Hampshire are any indication, the front-loaded primary season designed by the folks at the DNC to pick a nominee as quickly as possible will be catapulting Dean into the driver’s seat well before pitchers and catchers report in for spring training.

Dean’s campaign has been, for my money, one of the most remarkable electoral phenomena in recent memory. He has forever changed the face of American political campaigning with his use of Al Gore’s internet. His fundraising abilities have been second to none. He has captured the hearts of the ultra-liberal base, and pulled more than a few Greens along in his wake, while being a centrist budget hawk with a 100% approval rating from the NRA. Figure that one out and you’ve got a stellar dissertation for your Political Science PhD.

Or maybe not. At the end of the day, there is one reason Howard Dean stands ready to grasp the brass ring in Boston. He stood up before the die-hard base of the Democratic Party before, and in the aftermath, of an unnecessary, criminal war. He stood up after two years of hide-the-ball from Bush and the boys regarding September 11. He stood up after that base had endured one of the most ruthless anti-liberal propaganda campaigns since Joe McCarthy held a key to the Congressional washroom. He stood up after this country got lied to again and again and again. He stood up within the confines of a mainstream news media structure that has done more to cover Bush’s backside than anyone could have possibly imagined. He stood up when too many of the other Democratic candidates sat on their hands and played it safe.

He stood up and roared, “I want my country back!”

...snip

William Rivers Pitt is a good man.

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 10:27 AM
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1. Yeah Pitt is good
and I'll vote for Dean.
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 10:30 AM
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2. Pitt is the best
He is a good man in a storm.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 10:42 AM
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6. But Dean will lose worse than any Dem since Mondale
Edited on Thu Dec-25-03 10:44 AM by billbuckhead
Bush vs Dean will be a tragedy for democracy. NRA vs NRA, ConFlag vs ConFlag, Cato Institute vs Cato Institute. But on the "good side" it will be the PNAC vs someone with no foreign policy experience what soever. Also on the "good side" it will be the strongedt Republican party in modern history vs someone with no Washington experience whatsover. What good is ABB if it guarantees more Republican victories?
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 10:46 AM
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7. What was your prediction 12 months ago on the Kerry v. Dean match??
Oh...I see..

Dean '04...Bush is next!!!
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 11:02 AM
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10. yada yada yada yada yada yada yada -
Why don't you just type up a little text document with all your cute little prophecies and just cut and paste? It's not working - I doubt you've changed a single person's mind. Recent DU "polls" aside - we know that if you did a straw poll with people who have been members for 6 months (as was suggested on one of the silly poll threads) Dean would win hands down, with Kucinich a close second.

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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 11:43 AM
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11. O.K.
Dean '04...The New Democratic Leader of The NEW Democratic Party.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 10:33 AM
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3. His words are mine
Dean is not in line with my personal ideology-Kucinich is much closer on most things. But I sincerely think Dean can be elected because he has struck a cord with ordinary people. I just hope that if he gets the nomination, the other candidates fall behind him and support him, just as I hope he does if another becomes the nominee. Our eyes should always be on the prize-the White House. If we don't get rid of Bush, our country is doomed.
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 10:47 AM
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8. I love this one....
"He has captured the hearts of the ultra-liberal base, and pulled more than a few Greens along in his wake, while being a centrist budget hawk with a 100% approval rating from the NRA."

Thanks for saying that he's a crafty politician and in general great at lying. No, thanks but Bush is from New England and makes everybody think he's from Texas too...that's just what this country needs again, somebody who is one thing and pretends to be another.
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 12:26 PM
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13. Or he really could be a uniter.
Its not like he has kept his fiscal conservatism or stance on gun control a big dark secret. He talks about balancing the budget in Vermont all the time. Just because the Media calls someone a liberal doesn't make them one.
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 10:40 AM
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4. You seem to want everyone to think that the road stops
in Iowa and New Hampshire, sorry but the majority of people are not going to buy it. Howard's road will make a sharp turn in South Carolina, keep working for your candidate but brace yourself. He's got to much baggage, and people who are starting to look at him, don't see him as the best we can do as a party against Bush.
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 10:40 AM
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5. But the way,
Merry Christmas
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 12:31 PM
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16. Merry Christmas to you too. n/t
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 12:29 PM
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15. We'll see
about that when the votes are counted. That is the only poll that really matters.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 10:48 AM
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9. The problem is...
Edited on Thu Dec-25-03 10:48 AM by Gman
Dean is a nutcase. It could very well be that Dean is too intelligent. Very highly intelligent people go to a plane that we can't understand. This plane often leaves reality behind. Maybe this is Dean's problem.
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 12:23 PM
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12. That good man should only retitle
"Howard's Fog-Enshrouded Road"

I want my country back, too. I'd just like to be able to see the path ahead somewhat.

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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 12:29 PM
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14. dupe?
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 12:37 PM
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17. Dupe-Locking
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