Official results: OKLAHOMA (thread 2)

[Skinner]

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OKLAHOMA
Type of contest: Closed primary
Delegates at stake: 40
Poll closing time: 8 p.m. ET

This is the second Oklahoma thread. The first thread is here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=261992&mesg_id=261992

Looks like a nail-biter...

[Zynx]

1. Edwards by 108 votes.

[goobergunch]

2. OK - 81% reporting - Edwards 30%, Clark 30%, Kerry 26%

Edwards leads by 90 votes.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/states/OK/

[bluestateguy]

3. Could there be a recount in OK?

[greatauntoftriplets]

4. Are they using BBV?

Hackable.

[guitar man]

9. paper ballots n/t

[Bucky]

21. Friend, don't go there. Ppl who control BBV don't help Edwards or Kerry

They fear us. These results are w/in the MoE of the exit polling.

[goobergunch]

7. Since it's proportional

It doesn't really matter who wins delegate-wise - it's just media publicity.

[beyurslf]

8. We won't know tonight because of absentee votes.

May take some time to get them counted and the spread will be probably be too close without them... that is if it stays the way it has been all night.

[BOHICA06]

12. Why???

There are only delegates assigned - no office to gain? Little mercy on the taxpayers of OK there.

[UrbScotty]

14. That's what I was thinking. (nt)

[beyurslf]

5. 83% Edwards 73,948 vs Clark 73,886 spread=60+ for Edwards

[UrbScotty]

6. Edwards 73,948 - Clark 73,886 *A 62-VOTE MARGIN*

Sorry for confusing Clark and Kerry.

[goobergunch]

10. You mean Clark (n/t)

[creativelcro]

11. Doesn't matter. They all get the same # of delegates, right?

[mlawson]

20. It's good 'air time' for both of them: increased name recognition!! n/t

[beyurslf]

13. You mean Edwards--Clark, right?

[Crewleader]

19. Go Clark!

by 800...keep going!

[juajen]

16. Oops, you mean "Clark" not "Kerry", right?

N/T

[dobak]

15. 88% - Clark up by about 800

[girl gone mad]

22. Clark pulling away..

hope that's a trend.

[beyurslf]

27. I wouldn';t say that.... just shows trends in precincts.

Edwards went up as much as 1500 just a few % ago.

[goobergunch]

17. OK - 87% reporting - Clark 30%, Edwards 30%, Kerry 26%

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/states/OK/

[beyurslf]

18. 88% Clark 78,944 to Edwards 78,184...... Clark by about 800

[Myra]

23. This is unbelievable. 63 vote difference between Clark and Edwards.

Lord.

[beyurslf]

24. Absentee ballots should favor

Clark, right? He had more organization there I think.

[beyurslf]

25. Absentee ballots should favor

Clark, right? He had more organization there I think.

[Myra]

30. And absentee ballots take 24 hours to count, right?

So are we in for yet another sleepless night here in Clark land?

[Tim_in_HK]

26. I think OKNancy's comments in last thread

Are correct.

I think it's gonna come down to what happens in Tulsa county . . .
Clark is leading there with 39% reporting . . .
with Kerry in second and Edwards in third.

Hopefully this trend holds . . . We really need a win.

[DjTj]

28. Yeah, that looks good for Clark.

...this really is nerve-wracking...

Count those votes Oklahoma!

[Tim_in_HK]

33. John Edwards . . .

Damn your eyes!! x(

Just kidding.
There was actually an interesting article in The Economist on Clark and Edwards in OK, and the article said that Edwards had really pushed in the rural areas of OK. Sounds about right.

[beyurslf]

29. Do we know what counties have reported on these #s?

CNN just reports % in ,,, but not what counties this is.

Anyone in OK and know who typically comes in first and who comes in late?

[Tim_in_HK]

31. There is a CNN link to counties . . .

here:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/counties/OK/index.007.html

[Deb]

32. OK results by county

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/counties/OK/index.html

[beyurslf]

34. Kerry leads in OK County which is where OKC is

It is by far the largest county in the state.

[Tim_in_HK]

36. Yeah,

but in OK County, with 83% reporting,
Kerry is at 11,560 (31%)
Clark is at 11,076 (29%)
Edwards is at 8,586 (23%)

Kerry is only slightly ahead of Clark, compared to Clark's lead over Edwards.

At this point, the most important thing for Clark is keeping a strong lead over Edwards in OK county, and keeping the lead in Tulsa (where Clark is in lead, followed by Kerry and Edwards).

If OKNancy is correct and Tulsa continues to favor Clark, I think he'll be the winner. But a race this close between Clark and Edwards is not good for the Clark campaign, IMO.

[beyurslf]

37. As long as Clark keeps it close into the end I say he has it.

I think the absentee will swing his way so he has a pad going into the end of the night.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

35. Clark ahead by 700 pts CNN

[jean]

38. Clark up by 879 92% rreporting

[beyurslf]

39. 92% Clark 83,054 to Edwards 82,340 about 600 vote lead for Clark

[beyurslf]

40. So I have bad math and that is more like just over 700 vote lead

[jean]

42. when they say 100% does that mean they've counted absentees?

[UrbScotty]

41. Clark up 476 with 93% reporting (nt)

[Tim_in_HK]

43. Anyone from OK

Just curious, where is McCurtain county?
Clark ain't doing well there, while Edwards is doing quite well, and even Kerry is up on him.

And Kerry just took the lead in Tulsa county with 63% reporting . . . ARGHH!

[guitar man]

48. McCurtain county far SE corner of state

Down towards Idabel. I don't think a huge number of folks live down there.

[Tim_in_HK]

74. Is that the infamous

'Little Dixie'?

[Tim_in_HK]

75. Is that the infamous

'Little Dixie'?

[OKNancy]

82. yes

[ShaneGR]

44. OFFICIAL OKLAHOMA SOS election board results... Edwards up by 100

http://www.state.ok.us/~elections/04ppp.html

[John_H]

46. "IMPORTANT! These are unofficial, unverified results."

[ShaneGR]

49. Jesus, it's the Oklahoma ELECTION Board, of course they're real!

They may be behind CNN, but they ARE official.

[John_H]

64. The point is not where they're from. The point is they're NOT official.

I'm not Jesus, but even I know that in an elction this close, the results are utterly irrelevent at this point. It's a tie.

What the elction board is pointing out on their web site is that these results can change dramtically before they are certified--error, lost votes, absentees, etc. There may even be a mandatory recount, who knows?

Sorry pardner, this race will be a dead even tie until it is certified. And like the site says these results are unofficial.

[John_H]

69. Lets not party yet Clark fans. This thing is a tie until its certified.

I've seen more than one thousand point races flip between election night and certification.

[ShaneGR]

71. Clark campaigned for a full week, spent all his money

Beat Edwards by less than 1 percent. Edwards never seriously campaigned there.

Big showing for Edwards.

[OKNancy]

85. That is just NOT true

Edwards visited the state more than ANY other candidate! He has been campaigning here for six months at least.

Hell, down in LeFlore county where my sister lives the state rep endorsed him back in the spring. He also raised the most money of any candidate in Oklahoma.

[Tim_in_HK]

89. Hey YEAH!!!

YEAH! OKNancy is right!! Edwards has TOTALLY been campaigning in OK. Hasn't me made like 14 trips there?

Geez, I fell into the damn media spin on this as well!! Shame on me!

[Tim_in_HK]

86. I agree

good showing for Edwards . . .

But Edwards was able to spend less money on advertisements b/c the media has been pretty pro-Edwards the last week, and giving him plenty o'free advertising.

Meanwhile . . . they got the ignore button on Clark. Unless his campaign goes over the speed limit.

And let's see how this is reported. I predict Clark will come in second in AZ, NM, ND, and eek out a win in OK.

Edwards will come in second in OK and MO, and a strong win in SC.

One guess who will continue to be ignored and who will be declared the great hope of taking on Kerry.

I am not trying to knock Edwards, b/c personally I like him (after my man Clark, of course), but this is ridiculous. I think it's impressive that Clark has been able to do this will considering the snooze put on him by the nat'l media, and the outright dismissiveness that is being seen by the pundits.

[beyurslf]

51. All of the numbers that all of us are posting are Unofficial.

There won't be official numbers until the Sec of State certifies the results.

[beyurslf]

47. I used this site earlier..

but the news outlets get the newest numbers up faster. That site is about 10,000 votes behind the numbers on CNN. Clark is up by about 800.

[beyurslf]

45. 95% reported: Clark 86,467 to Edwards 85,661.... Clark by 800

[maryallen]

63. 97% reporting, Clark up by 1831

Ooh ...

[jean]

50. waiting....waiting...

[hatrack]

52. Geez, this is agonizing!

I can't remember an election like this since . . . well, you know when!

[OKNancy]

54. I think Tulsa county is slow because we have a big city counsel

election going on...seven spots ( I believe)

[Crewleader]

59. Agonizing best describes it friend

The General is almost 1800 ahead now...on to Virginia and Tennessee, Clark went to school in TN and lived VA and feels confident about each state.

Clark closing in NM and second AZ!

Go Clark!

[beyurslf]

53. 95% reported and 285,000 votes. Anyone have numbers from the 2000

primary? Seems like an awful lot. Is turnout high everywhere?

[never cry wolf]

62. Here...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/elections/2004/ok/

on edit: not here, just percentages

[curse10]

55. 97% reporting- Clark 30, Edwards 30

Clark 89,173 Edwards 87,342

[beyurslf]

56. 97%:Clark 89,173 to Edwards 87,342.... Clark leads by 1831 now.

[DjTj]

57. 97%: Clark - 89,173 (30%), Edwards - 87,342 (30%) - Congrats to Clark!

[jean]

60. kick on by!

[OKNancy]

58. See I told you not to worry

in the other thread ....Clark will pull ahead when Tulsa comes in
( actually Kerry has a slight lead here, but Edwards is third)

[beyurslf]

65. Cnn made a good point about Delegate split

It is not winner take all; it is by % of the vote. So we have a virtual tie even if one wins by a few votes. Looks like Clark may pull out by 1%. he would end up with maybe 1 or 2 more delegate votes though.

[beyurslf]

67. This is not to speak ill of his win... if he does end up winning.

Great run and good race to all :)

[windansea]

70. a win is a freakin win!!!

[OKNancy]

79. In Oklahoma it's actually a lot more complicated than that

We have a state party convention later, and 26 "voting districts".
Back in the olden days there was quit a bit of wheeling and dealing.
Anyway there are 47 delegates but only 26 pledged based on the primary. It can get really wild.

[Zech Marquis]

61. a 2 way tie up top?

well, there's nothing wrong with THAT! :bounce:

[guitar man]

66. I case anyone is interested

map of Oklahoma counties

http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/maps/okmap.htm

[JCMach1]

68. I would expect the Tulsa area to go for Clark....

I think you can put this one in the General's column.

Who gets the most delegates may be a different story. It will be interesting to see how the congressional districts broke down.

[ResistTheCoup]

72. Clark + 2,000 votes with 97% reporting!! nt

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/elections/2004/ok/

[MoonRiver]

76. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

The General is awesome!!!!! He's also second in several other states!!! :loveya: General Clark!!!!!!

[dolstein]

73. I think Clark has this one in the bag

By my estimates, there are as many as 10,000 votes still left to be counted in Tulsa, where Clark has consistently led. So I just don't see Edwards catching Clark at this point. Too bad.

[Myra]

78. Please be right dolstein, please be right...

...

[Columbia]

80. Please be wrong, dolstein, please be wrong

[mrdmk]

77. OK 97% reported Kerry 27, Clark 30, Edwards 30, Dean 4

[jean]

81. 99% CLARK up by 1274

[Leilani]

84. Wolf Blitzer said

Clark probably wins

[jean]

88. you mean he actually said name, Clark? Must be a first for CNN

[Tim_in_HK]

92. Wolf said . . .

ARK-CLAY

But I know what that means.

Blitzer actually said that in races with difference less than 1%, OK requires a recount, and a certification of results, which won't be certified till next week.

Now this becomes the new line from the media 'possible winner of OK Dem primary Wesley Clark' until results are certified.

[jean]

97. thanks Tim I'd prefer Essly-way, but we take what we can get

[JCMach1]

83. Edwards pulls closer

DEM) FOR PRESIDENT 2203 OF 2237
LYNDON H. LaROUCHE, JR. 687 .23%
JOHN EDWARDS 88,559 29.56%
HOWARD DEAN 12,575 4.20%
JOHN F. KERRY 80,231 26.78%
AL SHARPTON 3,915 1.31%
JOE LIEBERMAN 19,486 6.50%
DENNIS J. KUCINICH 2,523 .84%
WESLEY K. CLARK 89,753 29.96%
DICK GEPHARDT 1,871 .62%

STILL LOOKS LIKE CLARK THOUGH....

[kerry-is-my-prez]

87. Those numbers are a bit older

Clark: 89,861
Edwards: 88,577

[laruemtt]

90. wolfe saying OK

needs to be recounted and certified in ONE WEEK!!!!!!!!!!

OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Jackhammer Jesus]

91. Blitzer just said there will be a recount.

He said the results will have to be certified by the OK board of elections, and that it will probably take a week.

I suppose this means they're going to keep calling it a tie, even if Clark comes out ahead when all's said and done tonight.

[Doctor_J]

93. Manadatory?

JRE is honorable enough to concede, in the interest of moving forward.

[laruemtt]

94. and we'd better keep

our eyes wide open and make sure no "deal" goes down between now and then........

[Myra]

95. So Kerry and Edwards get to make rousing victory speaches,

and Clark doesn't.

How about that.
They will ignore his every victory, and call good showings/
second places defeats.

He's the pariah of the campaign.
And he's my candidate, the best one.

Oh look, Kerry's on TV using Clark's strategy of calling
on the vets to stand up.

[jenk]

96. really it doesn't matter

I mean, I'll concede Oklahoma, you got 1000 more votes, whatever. But don't we pretty much split the delegates anyway?

[truebrit71]

98. CBS.com is projecting Wes Clark as the winner in OK

..with a 1200 MOV...

[mrdmk]

99. OK 99% reported Clark 30, Edwards 30, Kerry 26, Dean 4