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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 12:57 PM
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SHIELDS BOMBSHELL: "30 seat loss" says GOP Member"
Edited on Sat May-13-06 12:58 PM by henslee
MARK SHIELDS: The gloom is there. It's on the Hill. It's wherever two or more Republicans gather in name, I mean, really. I mean, the president's name comes up.

And there was one number -- I was talking to, probably, in my judgment, the most able Republican campaign legislator in the business -- and probably I'm giving away his identity by saying it -- and he said he thought that Republicans would lose right now 30 seats in the House.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/12/214544/155
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 01:03 PM
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1. Just Please Let Me Be One Who Helps To Make It So...
And I *just know* that the rest of DU will be too...

:patriot:
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 01:07 PM
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5. Steve Gilliard expands on this bit of news & here's a snip & a link....
http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com

What the DC Dems don't get is how alienated Americans have become with Bush and the GOP. They are begging for aggressive leadership, and people are still worried about NASCAR dads.

Folks, you need to worry about Walter Reed dads. They want the war to end, they want a resolution to the War on Terror and not the ham handed methods Bush is using. Americans,
for the most part are non-ideological. Most ideology is phrased in social issues, not politics. Bush and The GOP won because they convinced people that they were level headed good managers.

The opposite is true, inept criminals usually don't win the hearts of people. The GOP has mangled every chance, every thing they touched.

Dean is right, the Dems can win on the coasts, but they need the center to govern with the consent of the people.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 01:06 PM
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2. That would be just about a normal off year loss.
However nothing much is normal anymore.



http://politicalarithmetik.blogspot.com/2006/05/approval-and-midterm-seat-loss-two.html

Between fraud and safe seat gerrymandering I have no idea how 06 is going to turn out.
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BigYawn Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 11:57 PM
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34. I won't be surprised if we actually lose seats in 2006
The gerrymandering might do us in.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 01:06 PM
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3. Could happen
Things are pretty bad right now and with right-wingers threatening to not vote in November, it makes it easier for us to pick up seats.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 01:06 PM
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4. I think Matthews said something similar yesterday...
At the same time it's a long time 'til November.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 01:11 PM
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6. We'll see
Just remember the Repukes blitz at the end - and an October surprise may be in the offing and might just work.

I've worked in enough campaigns to know you can take nothing for granted. We must still work very hard.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 02:16 PM
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10. the only October surprise that will work is for them to cancel elections
people are so pissed that any other stunt they try to pull will backfire.

The only tbing we have to fear...
is martial law.
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CATagious Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 11:39 PM
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33. Bill Maher said the October surprises....
... are going to be Gay adoption, fetal pain... uuummm..... there were a couple other bills that they will trotting out to get their base out to vote. Anyone else see his last show and have a better memory than I do?

I hope that repugs will see thru their BS this time and realize that they are just being played
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 05:11 AM
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37. Richard Clarke said this time they would trot out gay adoption
to increase "Christian" turnout.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 01:25 PM
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7. I hate to hear people counting chicks before they hatch
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 04:20 PM
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17. What We Should Do Instead
Everyone should share the following URL:

http://houseofscandal.org/main.html
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Orlandodem Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 11:03 AM
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27. We need to open our wallets, reaching out to family,
friends, and neighbors, and working the grass roots as if we are in jeopardy of losing seats.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 01:34 PM
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8. It's wherever two or more Republicans gather in name
Gotta love Mark Shields...the reference to the song is priceless!!!! No love to be felt, for certain!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:49 PM
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22. Well the song got it from the New Testament. Just FYI. n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:51 PM
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25. Yeah, it's a staple in the Catholic church, and Mark Shields is a classic
Catholic...
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 02:09 PM
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9. The bloom is off the (Turd)blossom
The next closest point on the graph is 1974.

1974!

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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 02:32 PM
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11. Paranoia?--or is anyone else worried that
Rethugs are trying to (a) manage expectations so that if they lose only 5 or 10 seats everyone will say they had a huge victory and (b) scare their base into giving money now and voting later and lull the opposition and independents into complacency?

With so many safe seats held by incumbents in gerrymandered districts, I don't see how a 30 seat swing is possible now or in the future.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 02:34 PM
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12. Learn to say "REPUBLICAN President Bush"
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 03:00 PM
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13. STP to Mark Shields: from your mouth to God's ears
O8)
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 03:20 PM
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14. 30 seats? do I hear 35 seats? 35 seats?
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 06:24 PM
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18. Do I hear 40 seats?
MR Murtha bids 40 seats.

DO I hear 45 seats?
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:23 PM
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19. Thirty seats is enough...
Contact your local Democratic campaign on Monday morning and volunteer two hours per week. Two hours. You want your country back? Two hours. More than a hundred thousand GI's are trapped in Iraq for all the wrong reasons, balancing between life and death. Two hours of your time each week brings them home alive. All of them.

Two Hours. You got something better to do?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:46 PM
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21. (waving hi to Jeff in MW):
Where in MW are you? My DS and BIL are in Whitefish Bay. I go there every year at Christmas.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 10:57 AM
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26. I'm in Brookfield...
A depressingly Republican part of the area. Whitefish Bay is lovely, and there are a lot of good Dem's in the neighborhood.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 10:10 PM
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30. Hi Jeff.
That area is depressingly Republican. We are the lone Dems on my block.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 09:08 PM
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39. Send me a PM
I aim to change that...
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 10:33 PM
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32. Congrats on living in Brookfield
that's where Milwaukee's successful live - Robin Yount, Al McGuire, an dothers. You must be doing well.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 09:09 PM
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40. LOL!
I'm a little "house poor" right now, if you know what I mean.

I didn't realize the neighborhood I was moving into. It ain't exactly the Rainbow Coalition going on around here.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 03:39 PM
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15. Please, oh please let FL15 be one of the thirty. Please!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:50 PM
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23. And WI 5th!!! Senslessbrenner! nt
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 03:59 PM
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16. That's where we come in.
Yes, Shields might be pessimistic, but we must not fall into the GOP's trap.

We must keep the pressure on the Bush Administration and their rubber stamps, and not take these elections for granted.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:05 PM
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20. A big fat kick.
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Robbie Michaels Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:50 PM
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24. I think there will be more to lose
Wait until Fitzgerald goes after Cheney :evilgrin:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 11:23 AM
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28. They're "managing expectations." Don't let 'em trick you!!
We need to work harder and campaign harder EVERY SINGLE TIME they play this game. Beware, people!!

NGU.


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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:48 PM
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29. Ted Kennedy said we take the house and senate back
Murtha said 40 seats. 70 something veterens are running, the Band of Brothers....

I have 23 vunerable and 20 open.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 10:31 PM
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31. If only the Dems in DC could unify for 6 months
they could put the Smirk family off the public dole for eternity. Of course, if pigs could fly they'd be birds.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 12:03 AM
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35. Looking at the districts, I don't see it
The percentages from most recent elections don't hint at that type of massive turnover. Nor the amount of retirements. Nor gerrymandering. If we gain control it figures to be via the slightest of margins.

This site is a very good one for a convenient summary of the races this fall; senate, house and gov. Scroll down to the right for the individual states: http://californianintexas.blogspot.com/
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 12:09 AM
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36. Doing my very best to turn Iowa 2 Blue.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 06:39 AM
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38. Let's take a look at something from local politics to set up November
County commissioner primary.

Incumbent is despised by the polls within the power base of his own party.

The party selected a hand picked successor, funded him big time, endorsed him, the local papers endorsed him, a particular well known preacher talked him up at the local meeting places...this would normally and historically guarantee a victory for him.

What the party did not count on was what he put in his literature. That he was proud to have been the county coordinator for the GW re-selection process. How he met GW and thought he was a great guy and still supports him 1000000%.

Come election day and those outside the party upper echelon came to vote,the regular joe republicans, they sent him home. BIG time. An endorsed candidate from the right part of the county.

Read into this what you want, but, this is the first time in my lifetime in this area this has happened. But, I am still of the firm believer that all politics are local.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 09:21 PM
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41. Just Wait Till Hookergate is Exposed by Repub Hill Staffers ....
The corruption is systemic, the "family values" will take a big hit, and Congressmen are going to jail -- should hit before Nov elections.
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