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Amy6627 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:15 PM
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Who said-- When America is taken over by Fascists, they will be holding
a flag in one hand and a cross in the other.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:17 PM
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1. Buy Jesus!
or ELSE!!!
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:17 PM
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2. Sinclair Lewis said, "When fascism comes to America
it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
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Amy6627 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:22 PM
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6. Thanks!
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 04:02 PM
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20. Lewis Sinclair
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:19 PM
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3. Someone here has what you're looking for...
Edited on Tue May-09-06 12:21 PM by reichstag911
...as a signature line. If I see it, I'll track ya down (via thsi post) and let ya know.

While I was typin' and thinkin', someone beat me to it!
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Amy6627 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:21 PM
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5. Thank you! Someone responded with Sinclair Lewis.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:20 PM
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4. Huey Long said:
"Fascism will come to America in the name of anti-fascism."

Long was a crook, but he was a very perceptive crook
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Amy6627 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:22 PM
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7. That's a good one too!
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 03:09 PM
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17. Just found this in my cyber-keller...
The Danger of American Fascism - Henry A. Wallace

An article in the New York Times, April 9, 1944.
From Henry A. Wallace, Democracy Reborn (New York, 1944), edited by Russell Lord, p. 259.

1. On returning from my trip to the West in February, I received a request from The New York Times to write a piece answering the following questions:

1. What is a fascist?
2. How many fascists have we?
3. How dangerous are they?

2. A fascist is one whose lust for money or power is combined with such an intensity of intolerance toward those of other races, parties, classes, religions, cultures, regions or nations as to make him ruthless in his use of deceit or violence to attain his ends. The supreme god of a fascist, to which his ends are directed, may be money or power; may be a race or a class; may be a military, clique or an economic group; or may be a culture, religion, or a political party.

3. The perfect type of fascist throughout recent centuries has been the Prussian Junker, who developed such hatred for other races and such allegiance to a military clique as to make him willing at all times to engage in any degree of deceit and violence necessary to place his culture and race astride the world. In every big nation of the world are at least a few people who have the fascist temperament. Every Jew-baiter, every Catholic hater, is a fascist at heart. The hoodlums who have been desecrating churches, cathedrals and synagogues in some of our larger cities are ripe material for fascist leadership.

4. The obvious types of American fascists are dealt with on the air and in the press. These demagogues and stooges are fronts for others. Dangerous as these people may be, they are not so significant as thousands of other people who have never been mentioned. The really dangerous American fascists are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those. The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power.

5. If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States. There are probably several hundred thousand if we narrow the definition to include only those who in their search for money and power are ruthless and deceitful. Most American fascists are enthusiastically supporting the war effort. They are doing this even in those cases where they hope to have profitable connections with German chemical firms after the war ends. They are patriotic in time of war because it is to their interest to be so, but in time of peace they follow power and the dollar wherever they may lead.

6. American fascism will not be really dangerous until there is a purposeful coalition among the cartelists, the deliberate poisoners of public information, and those who stand for the K.K.K. type of demagoguery.

7. The European brand of fascism will probably present its most serious postwar threat to us via Latin America. The effect of the war has been to raise the cost of living in most Latin American countries much faster than the wages of labor. The fascists in most Latin American countries tell the people that the reason their wages will not buy as much in the way of goods is because of Yankee imperialism. The fascists in Latin America learn to speak and act like natives. Our chemical and other manufacturing concerns are all too often ready to let the Germans have Latin American markets, provided the American companies can work out an arrangement which will enable them to charge high prices to the consumer inside the United States. Following this war, technology will have reached such a point that it will be possible for Germans, using South America as a base, to cause us much more difficulty in World War III than they did in World War II. The military and landowning cliques in many South American countries will find it attractive financially to work with German fascist concerns as well as expedient from the standpoint of temporary power politics.

8. Fascism is a worldwide disease. Its greatest threat to the United States will come after the war, either via Latin America or within the United States itself.

9. Still another danger is represented by those who, paying lip service to democracy and the common welfare, in their insatiable greed for money and the power which money gives, do not hesitate surreptitiously to evade the laws designed to safeguard the public from monopolistic extortion. American fascists of this stamp were clandestinely aligned with their German counterparts before the war, and are even now preparing to resume where they left off, after "the present unpleasantness" ceases:

10. The symptoms of fascist thinking are colored by environment and adapted to immediate circumstances. But always and everywhere they can be identified by their appeal to prejudice and by the desire to play upon the fears and vanities of different groups in order to gain power. It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice. It may be shocking to some people in this country to realize that, without meaning to do so, they hold views in common with Hitler when they preach discrimination against other religious, racial or economic groups. Likewise, many people whose patriotism is their proudest boast play Hitler's game by retailing distrust of our Allies and by giving currency to snide suspicions without foundation in fact.

11. The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact. Their newspapers and propaganda carefully cultivate every fissure of disunity, every crack in the common front against fascism. They use every opportunity to impugn democracy. They use isolationism as a slogan to conceal their own selfish imperialism. They cultivate hate and distrust of both Britain and Russia. They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.

12. Several leaders of industry in this country who have gained a new vision of the meaning of opportunity through co-operation with government have warned the public openly that there are some selfish groups in industry who are willing to jeopardize the structure of American liberty to gain some temporary advantage. We all know the part that the cartels played in bringing Hitler to power, and the rule the giant German trusts have played in Nazi conquests. Monopolists who fear competition and who distrust democracy because it stands for equal opportunity would like to secure their position against small and energetic enterprise. In an effort to eliminate the possibility of any rival growing up, some monopolists would sacrifice democracy itself.

13. It has been claimed at times that our modern age of technology facilitates dictatorship. What we must understand is that the industries, processes, and inventions created by modern science can be used either to subjugate or liberate. The choice is up to us. The myth of fascist efficiency has deluded many people. It was Mussolini's vaunted claim that he "made the trains run on time." In the end, however, he brought to the Italian people impoverishment and defeat. It was Hitler's claim that he eliminated all unemployment in Germany. Neither is there unemployment in a prison camp.

14. Democracy to crush fascism internally must demonstrate its capacity to "make the trains run on time." It must develop the ability to keep people fully employed and at the same time balance the budget. It must put human beings first and dollars second. It must appeal to reason and decency and not to violence and deceit. We must not tolerate oppressive government or industrial oligarchy in the form of monopolies and cartels. As long as scientific research and inventive ingenuity outran our ability to devise social mechanisms to raise the living standards of the people, we may expect the liberal potential of the United States to increase. If this liberal potential is properly channeled, we may expect the area of freedom of the United States to increase. The problem is to spend up our rate of social invention in the service of the welfare of all the people.

15. The worldwide, agelong struggle between fascism and democracy will not stop when the fighting ends in Germany and Japan. Democracy can win the peace only if it does two things:

1. Speeds up the rate of political and economic inventions so that both production and, especially, distribution can match in their power and practical effect on the daily life of the common man the immense and growing volume of scientific research, mechanical invention and management technique.
2. Vivifies with the greatest intensity the spiritual processes which are both the foundation and the very essence of democracy.

16. The moral and spiritual aspects of both personal and international relationships have a practical bearing which so-called practical men deny. This dullness of vision regarding the importance of the general welfare to the individual is the measure of the failure of our schools and churches to teach the spiritual significance of genuine democracy. Until democracy in effective enthusiastic action fills the vacuum created by the power of modern inventions, we may expect the fascists to increase in power after the war both in the United States and in the world.

17. Fascism in the postwar inevitably will push steadily for Anglo-Saxon imperialism and eventually for war with Russia. Already American fascists are talking and writing about this conflict and using it as an excuse for their internal hatreds and intolerances toward certain races, creeds and classes.

18. It should also be evident that exhibitions of the native brand of fascism are not confined to any single section, class or religion. Happily, it can be said that as yet fascism has not captured a predominant place in the outlook of any American section, class or religion. It may be encountered in Wall Street, Main Street or Tobacco Road. Some even suspect that they can detect incipient traces of it along the Potomac. It is an infectious disease, and we must all be on our guard against intolerance, bigotry and the pretension of invidious distinction. But if we put our trust in the common sense of common men and "with malice toward none and charity for all" go forward on the great adventure of making political, economic and social democracy a practical reality, we shall not fail.

Paperclip

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Nazis and the Republican Party

A Fresh Look
by Carla Binion
Nazis and the Republican Party
Investigative reporter Christopher Simpson says in BLOWBACK that after World War II, Nazi émigrés were
given CIA subsidies to build a far-right-wing power base in the U.S. These Nazis assumed prominent positions
in the Republican Party's "ethnic outreach committees." Simpson documents the fact that these Nazis did not
come to America as individuals but as part of organized groups with fascist political agendas.

snip

Simpson shows how the State Department and the CIA put high-ranking Nazis on the intelligence payroll "for
their expertise in propaganda and psychological warfare," among other purposes. The most important Nazi
employed by the U.S. was Reinhard Gehlen, Hitler's most senior eastern front military intelligence officer. After
Germany's defeat became certain, Gehlen offered the U.S. certain concessions in exchange for his own
protection. Gehlen promoted hyped up cold war propaganda on behalf of the political right in this country, and
helped shape U.S. perceptions of the cold war.


Journalist Russ Bellant (OLD NAZIS, THE NEW RIGHT, AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY) shows that
Laszlo Pasztor, a convicted Nazi war collaborator, built the Republican émigré network. Pasztor, who served as
adviser to Republican Paul Weyrich, belonged to the Hungarian Arrow Cross, a group that helped liquidate
Hungary's Jews. Pasztor was founding chairman of the Republican Heritage Groups Council.


Two months before the November 1988 presidential election, a small newspaper, Washington Jewish Week,
disclosed that a coalition for the Bush campaign included a number of outspoken Nazis and anti-Semites. The
article prompted six leaders of Bush's coalition to resign.
According to Russ Bellant, Nazi collaborators involved in the Republican Party included:
1.Radi Slavoff, GOP Heritage Council's executive director, and head of "Bulgarians for Bush." Slavoff was a
member of a Bulgarian fascist group, and he put together an event in Washington honoring Holocaust
denier, Austin App.
2.Florian Galdau, director of GOP outreach efforts among Romanians, and head of "Romanians for Bush."
Galdau was once an Iron Guard recruiter, and he defended convicted Nazi war criminal Valerian Trifa.
3.Nicholas Nazarenko, leader of a Cossack GOP ethnic unit. Nazarenko was an ex-Waffen SS officer.
4.Method Balco, GOP activist. Balco organized yearly memorials for a Nazi puppet regime.
5.Walter Melianovich, head of the GOP's Byelorussian unit. Melianovich worked closely with many Nazi
groups.
6.Bohdan Fedorak, leader of "Ukrainians for Bush." Fedorak headed a Nazi group involved in anti-Jewish
wartime pogroms.

more

http://www.bartcop.com/nazigop.htm


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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:22 PM
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8. As an aside,...
...I'm looking forward to seeing Sean Penn play Huey in All the President's Men.
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Amy6627 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:24 PM
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9. That should be great.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 02:41 PM
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14. ??? Is it really being re-made?
Cool!!!

One of my all-time fave books/movies...
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 02:46 PM
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15. Yep, check www.imdb.com;
I just saw the trailer the other day, so it'll be out in the next couple/few months.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 03:03 PM
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16. Okay, I must be an idiot...I can only find the original mentioned there..
Edited on Tue May-09-06 03:04 PM by truebrit71
... :shrug:
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 03:21 PM
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18. It's "A Conspiracy of Dunces"...
Edited on Tue May-09-06 03:35 PM by reichstag911
...between you and me; the title of the new Huey Long movie, just like the original, is All the King's Men ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405676/ ). All the President's Men was the Nixon/Watergate movie. D'oh!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 03:32 PM
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19. Aaah....totally different animal then....
.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:27 PM
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10. A politician being a crook, especially in LA is hardly noteworthy,
in fact, I think it is to be expected. However, Huey was probably the biggest single factor in forcing the original "do-nothing" Democrats to action. This country was well on its way to going totally socialist, when FDR came to the rescue of the power elite.

Now we are seeing a historical replay, but I don't see the new Huey Long.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:39 PM
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11. Didn't Long say "I hope to be buried in LA, so I can remain active
in politics."
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 02:25 PM
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13. LOL! If he didn't, he should have. n/t
:rofl:
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 04:36 PM
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21. FDR did NOT come to the defense of the elite.
The wealthy hated him openly as did most newspapers.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:01 PM
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23. I didn't say he did, what he did do was to preserve their institutions
of power and, thereby, left the door open for what we're going through today. This was done for only one reason and that was to preserve the ruling class, whether they knew it or not. Had he not instituted the FDIC and other corporate constraints, those institutions would not exist today (nobody that lived through the Great Depression would ever have put another dime into a bank, nor purchased an insurance policy, after they stole all the $).

Imagine an America with no Federal Reserve system, where charging interest was against the law, how much more wealth would be in the hands of people, rather than in an off-shore account in the Caymans, or financing factory construction in China, or...
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:53 PM
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12. the 14 points of fasism,with * references...must read
Edited on Tue May-09-06 12:55 PM by w8liftinglady
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

this made me almost puke


:puke:
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Kenergy Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:07 AM
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22. Sinclair Lewis n/t
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