Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Why do Repubs. want to drill in ANWR, but not in Florida??

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 05:54 PM
Original message
Why do Repubs. want to drill in ANWR, but not in Florida??
First off, I know the reason why, Jebbie won't allow it, but this begs the question, with the American people so pissed off at high gas prices, why is it OK for the Republicans to play politics with gas, and why is it that Jebbie can get away ordering George to stay away from Florida.
The Republicans are so wired to start drilling holes in the arctic, but I have not heard one of them go up to George and demand that Jebbie stand aside and start drilling off the coast of Florida. This is the height of damned hypocrisy. Is Bush such a wimp that he won't even sit down with bro. and tell him the facts?? If this country is in crisis with gas prices, like most people think it is, then all alternatives should be put on the table, and that includes drilling off the coast of Florida. But apparently, here's another issues that the Republicans will talk a good game, but are sorely lacking in testicular fortitude to do anything about.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 05:54 PM
Response to Original message
1. Jebby doesn't need the black eye from the fight
Edited on Sun Apr-30-06 05:55 PM by eleny
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 05:55 PM
Response to Original message
2. They all have beach condos here. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:02 PM
Response to Original message
3. PSSSSt
Don't tell anyone but there are a LOT of Retired New York rich Repuks living in Florida.

They like their low wage illegal landscapers and house keepers, and they like their ocean views.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
simonm Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. true
Edited on Sun Apr-30-06 06:13 PM by simonm
Don't forget all the foreigners buying valuable real estate. I've noticed many from UK purchasing homes here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:18 PM
Response to Original message
5. SIMPLE.....Florida is Jebby country. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:21 PM
Response to Original message
6. it will set president for the rest of the National Parks
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SeaBob Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:23 PM
Response to Original message
7. ANWR
Cuz it hasn't been spoiled yet. It's like a virgin waiting to be raped and they have sex on their pea sized brains
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
guinivere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:23 PM
Response to Original message
8. Jebby is one reason, the other is that Florida has tons of
wealthy retired repugs. They don't want all that oil machinery crap spoiling the view or blocking yacht traffic.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Yeah. In FL, the oil companies have to fight developers
and probably the companies who insure those posh buildings they make. Those industries also have money with which to purchase policy. To drill on fed land in a wilderness, they only have to deal with We The People and since they have paid off our reps in government...

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 08:40 PM
Response to Original message
10. utter hypocrisy
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 08:48 PM
Response to Original message
11. Like any criminal, they prefer to operate out of public view
Who sees ANWR? No one. Well, no one that matters at least. Charlie Slaney and his Gwich'en brothers and sisters can go hang for all the Republicans care. But Florida? You wanna spoil Shaq's view of the ocean? Or Mr. Huizenga's? Or Mr. Steinbrenner's? Or the thousands of other oligarchs who prefer to operate out of the public eye while they plunder the common weal? I don't think so, Scooter.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 09:01 PM
Response to Original message
12. don't most Alaskan officials support drilling?
I don't know. I have the idea that the AK senators do.

The Florida delegation -- both democrats and republicans -- has generally presented a united front against drilling. Of course, that's because the majority of Floridians are strongly against it.

Alaska has an oil-based economy doesn't it? I have the idea that Alaskans get some individual benefits from oil revenues, but it's only a vague idea. My guess is that Floridians wouldn't see much personal benefit from drilling in the gulf, but that Alaskans would get something out drilling in ANWR.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 09:11 PM
Response to Original message
13. But they have no problem defiling
Louisiana's coastline, destroying her wetlands, leaving her more vulnerable to hurricane storm surges.

Its always pissed me off. Florida has enormous natural gas deposits, proven by test drilling off the Panhandle coast. And, there would be no rigs visible from the coast.

They don't want the blue collar workers. They only want effete fucks driving BMers
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 09:47 PM
Response to Original message
14. But they DO want to dril in Florida
Republican Rep. Ted Poe's proposals are in line with the agenda in Congress to put a lid on gas prices, which some analysts have estimated could reach an average of $3.50 or more per gallon this summer.

"I have filed legislation to expand domestic off-shore drilling to all our coasts, even the sacred shores of Florida and California," Poe stated in a release.

The United States imported 4.9 billion barrels of crude last year, according to the U.S. Energy Department. "We cannot continue to be held hostage by third-world countries," Poe, of Humble, stated in a release.

"The best way to do that is to lessen our dependence on them by expanding our domestic drilling."

http://www.southeasttexaslive.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16533910&BRD=2287&PAG=461&dept_id=512589&rfi=6

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Twenty-two of Florida's 25 U.S. House members sent a pair of letters to Interior Secretary Gale Norton on Monday opposing the agency's plan to open a large area in the Gulf of Mexico to offshore oil and natural gas drilling about 100 miles south of the Panhandle.

A Florida delegation letter signed by 21 representatives expressed strong opposition to the proposal because it would have "severe implications on Florida's economy and environment" by increasing the risk of pollution to the state's beaches. "Our economy is built upon the thousands of jobs that are created by visitors who vacation on our beautiful beaches," the Floridians wrote. "Environmental damage resulting from an oil spill or any other mishap associated with offshore drilling could be devastating to our economy."

Another Florida congressman, Jeff Miller, R-Chumuckla, sent a separate letter opposing the proposal, which would most affect his Panhandle district. Miller wrote that drilling also could harm military training and weapons testing in and over the gulf by Air Force and Navy bases in the Panhandle.

Miller said in the letter and an interview that the Minerals Management Service's plan would harm efforts by some Florida lawmakers, including himself, to reach a compromise for limited offshore drilling in exchange for long-term protection. "They are continuing to try to do an end around on the Florida delegation," Miller said. "I am not pleased."


EDIT

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=115&topic_id=45162

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 11:11 PM
Response to Original message
15. So they can funnel more government dollars and tax breaks to the
oil companies AND the rethuglican Alaskan power structure.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 12:33 AM
Response to Original message
16. If we don't drill the Gulf,,,China will
China already owns the Panama Canal. So they are obviously very interested in the oil off the Florida coast.

If we don't drill it, the Chinese will.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 12:37 AM
Response to Original message
17. Matter of time...they want the natural gas in the eastern gulf.
They'll get, too. I have heard Florida is powerless to stop them.

http://theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060430/NEWS/604300439/1039

Producers Covet Gulf's Natural Gas

By Cory Reiss
Ledger Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON -- "An exasperated Rep. John Peterson of Pennsylvania waved his arms last week while pleading for Floridians to understand why drilling for natural gas is not a threat to their beaches.

It's not like drilling for oil, the Republican said at a news conference outside the Capitol. And if the public is in an uproar over gasoline prices, he said, wait until they get air conditioning bills this summer or lose their jobs because natural gas prices are killing businesses.

"Natural gas shouldn't even be an argument," he said.

The headlines these days are about $3-a-gallon gasoline. But Republicans and some pro-drilling Democrats are using the uproar to press for drilling in the eastern Gulf of Mexico -- where supporters say the main enticement has been an abundance of natural gas, not oil."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 08:28 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC