Gore speaks

[lwcon]

Al Gore, the new king of all media, speaks:

...you know the temptation to reject the truth and try to manufacture your own reality is what got us into Iraq — it's what got us into these deficits. At some point, reality has its day. I hope they'll change. I think there is a chance they'll change. You know Winston Churchill once said that the American people generally do the right thing after first exhausting every other alternative. And maybe after exhausting every other alternative, Bush will do the right thing on this. I'm not going to hold my breath, but I do think that there's a chance.

I can't look into their (Bush's and Rove's) hearts — I'll let the grand jury do that. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that.

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[rainy]

1. Gore should be our next President. He has changed for the

better. He was wise but now wise beyond his time. And, I think he has earned our admiration and respect and deserves to lead us. He will be our knight in armor.

[valerief]

5. He IS our president. But the courts refused to let him serve.

He would have been re-elected in '04 had he been allowed to serve as the American people elected him.

[Rose Siding]

2. funny guy

Q:And you inject some humor into your presentation.

Gore: It’s hard to believe—I benefit from low expectations.

:loveya:

[The Doctor.]

21. He's a guy I wouldn't have a beer with....

I'd have a beer and he his 'something-besides-beer' while we went over the self-correcting nature of civilization.

And we would probably lament the short-sightedness of the race that has brought us here.

[Peace Patriot]

3. Gore/Kerry '08. The Poetic Justice ticket.

Just thought I'd put it out there again. It would be such a joy to have a president who remembers what Winston Churchill said--and a president and v-p who were actually elected.

Question: What is the "this" that he hopes Bush will do the right thing about? Treasongate?

[Doctor_J]

4. I wonder if Clark would be Gore's VP

That might be a juggernaut.

[ladjf]

11. We have several very strong Democrats that would be great

VP candidates on the ticket with Gore.

[bunny planet]

16. I love that ticket, thought I was the only one.

:-)

[terip64]

33. Gore/Kerry'08 I agree

[saltpoint]

6. I think if this guy wants the nomination, he begins with a very

powerful showing in Iowa.

Right now the media is fawning over Sen. Clinton. And she does have the bucks and many connections.

But there is a sort of moral imperative to a Gore candidacy after the theft of Florida in 2000.

Katherine Harris. Jeb Bush. Jim Baker. Karl Rove.

That bunch.

[ladjf]

12. There is something about the though of Gore being elected

President that is very appealing. It's not just that Gore himself has matured into real statesman, it's that the political climate has changed in ways that make legitimate, intelligent and caring people like Gore stand out. His time is coming. Let's let him know that we are ready for him.

[saltpoint]

22. If Al Gore winds up at the top of our ticket, he has my vote. He

already has my respect and admiration.

The environment has always been an extremely important issue for me, and I love Democrats who champion it.

[robinlynne]

38. here here! well said.

[autorank]

18. Gore will win by acclimation. One over looked event.

When H. Clinton spoke in NY recently, protesters challenged her on her pro-Iraq resolution vote.

She came back with something very close to "Sometimes you have to make a tough decision."

It's out there, on record. :wtf: "tough decision" ? How about "IDIOTIC decision."

Under pressure, she's reflexively defensive. That's fine, she made a choice and should
defend it. However, it was her choice. It was a bad choice. It was a disastrous choice.

Nobody who voted for that resolution, no matter how many mea culpas they do, will be
tagged as a loser.

Gore opposed the war. Dean opposed the war. Clark opposed the war. Kucinich opposed the war.

Take your pick, I pick Gore but I'm grateful to each of them and the Senators who just said NO.

[saltpoint]

23. Hey, autorank. On Sen. Clinton. She could surprise me and clear the

table in Iowa. My predictions aren't always that good. I thought Dick Gephardt, then later Howard Dean, would win in Iowa, and neither did.

On the other hand, it could be Sen. Clinton who's surprised. There's a case to be made that she will rise or hold steady for another year or so and then as the winter of 2007-08 begins to come around, she could plateau out and begin to drop a little.

A reasonably well-financed charge from just about anyone else could upset her in Iowa and New Hampshire.

A case could be made that the results of the Iowa caucus would be a wild scramble among (in no particular order):

Gore, Edwards, Bayh, Feingold, Kerry, Clark, HClinton, Richardson, Biden, Vilsack, etc.

I'm not seeing that as a really inviting theater for HClinton to emerge as a "frontrunner."

If any one of those others places ahead of her, she is no longer frontrunner, and whoever places ahead of her will capture the momentum for the nomination.

[autorank]

25. Hey buddy,

Geez, just ready to hit the sack and I read a rational argument for Ms. HRC winning Iowa.

If she moves into Iowa and fails, she's toast. If she's in a pack and wins, then the opposition coalesces around her.

"as the winter of 2007-08 begins to come around, she could plateau out and begin to drop a little."
That sounds right to me for a couple of reasons. First, MSM won't have the sway it has even now. At that point, she'll only have name recognition and Big Dog nostalgia going for her. So she'll have to fade a bit. Second, a candidate may find his or her voice and just blow her out of the water: "Voice" as in populist voice. There are only three known Democrats who are ideologically able to do this: Dean, Clark, and my main main Gore. Clark's too intellectual, Dean's doing too good a job w/DNC and will probably stick around, so it's up to Gore. He cleans her clock.

Now the caveat. If any of these three potential populists makes serious inroads against Hillary, watch corporate America and MSM drop Hillary like an old shoe and push Biden as the handsome, firebrand of American revival. A rational president, one who can't be co-opted, will draw down defense and spend on saving the planet. Since private sector jobs are down .6 million since 2000 and government sector up 2.9 million, we're in a garrison state economy. Corporate America finds Biden easy to dance to and he'd trumpet the need for a "strong defense."

A couple of island nations sink, another round of mega hurricanes, and maybe a lake or two catching fire because they're so filthy and we're looking at real awareness of our dire straits. In that case, Bush is excelled to Dubai and Gore crushes all competition. Clark for Secretary of state, Dean at HHS and we're rokken into good times.

We'll see. I'm voting as though my life depends on it.

[fooj]

27. Our lives WILL depend on it.

:hug:

[saltpoint]

28. Me, too, and I'm with you on the urgency.

You have a good night and I'll catch you on these boards soon.

[Rose Siding]

7. She asked if he admired anything about bush-

"I have to confess that I fear I’m losing some objectivity where he’s concerned...."

:rofl:

[Rose Siding]

8. K&R. That's a great interview.

He speaks as though he's taken the time to write out and frame the answers. What a smart man.

[northofdenali]

9. My President is so articulate -

AND funny - "I'll let the grand jury do that" :-)

[lwcon]

10. For people who think that all politicians are the same...

We'll be way beyond Thunderdome before Bush or Cheney talks this way about Big Oil:

"The behavior of ExxonMobil is disgraceful. They finance in whole or in part 40 organizations that put out disinformation on global warming designed to confuse the American people. There has emerged in the last couple of decades a lobbying strategy that is based on trying to control perceptions. In some sense it's not new, but it's new in the sophistication and the amount of resources they devote to it. It's not new in the sense it's the same thing the tobacco industry did after the surgeon general's report of 1964, and that is a major part of the reason why the Bush administration doesn't do anything. The president put their chief guy in charge of environmental policy in the White House."

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[northofdenali]

14. We are really close to being beyond Thunderdome -

but I don't expect any of the repukes will get it.

I've boycotted Exxon (now ExxonMobil) since March 24, 1989. They still haven't paid the judgement for what they did to Prince William Sound.

Exxon folks are not very welcome by us commoners here.

[JaneQPublic]

13. Gore-Feingold 2008 (nt)

[lwcon]

15. That's the ticket!

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[Warren DeMontague]

20. I'm SO WITH YOU ON THAT ONE.

Couldn't have said it any better, myself.

Here's your visual for the day:

[ms liberty]

31. I hope you don't mind if I steal that pic!

That's my preferred ticket right there - I would work 24/7/365 for Al Gore, and if Feingold is the Veep - well, that would be proof that there is a Great Creator out there somewhere!

[Turn CO Blue]

37. I would be there with you 24/7/365 working for Al Gore 2008

and Feingold is gold.

[autorank]

17. "Hearts" what hearts? Good luck findin them. GORE2008. n/t

[fooj]

24. Re-elect Al Gore.

It is time that he take his rightful place as the leader of our country.

Peace.

[autorank]

26. !

:hug:

[Clarkie1]

19. Great article. Clark has also been taking up the global warming issue

recently. I have a great deal of respect for Gore. He's a man of such decency, intelligence, and integrity.

I'm really looking forward to the new film, as well as the book. I read the other day that Clark had been reading "The Weather Makers," which addresses global climate change, and he's done some podcasts on the issue.

Gore deserves a lot of credit for being the first really public figure to bring the issue of global warming to the forefront of our consciousness. I hope we keep hearing from him for a long time to come.

[Minnesota Libra]

29. OMG, I miss Gore!! He's got the knowledge, commonn sense and...

....level headedness that we so desperately need these days.:cry:

[ms liberty]

30. K&R for my President! Gore/Feingold 08!!! n/t

[Uncle Joe]

32. Here is Al's answer to those that believe

he did not speak of the environment while running for President.


"In 2000 and in 1988 when you ran, you really didn’t talk about the environment that much. I think you were counseled that it was not a good issue. Any regrets about that?"

"That’s the conventional wisdom that I want to challenge because in both cases I talked about it extensively. And to take 2000 as an example, there were numerous speeches and events and proposals and multipoint plans that were not considered news, and if a tree falls in the forest and it’s not heard, then later on people think it didn’t happen. John Kerry went thru a very similar experience in ’04 because the way the issue has been covered has been plagued with some of the adjectives that you began with—it’s marginal, it’s arcane, it’s irrelevant, ridiculous—and so if a daily news cycle is devoted to that issue, then one candidate has his message out there and the other is mysteriously missing. There’s another factor that’s often overlooked in 2000. Then governor George W. Bush publicly pledged to regulate CO2 emissions and to forcibly, with the rule of law, reduce them—and publicly said "this is a serious problem and I will deal with it." Now, the other way that issues get covered in the media is if there’s conflict, and if there’s a sharp difference. And one is tempted to conclude that Rove crafted those positions that were immediately abandoned after the election—in the first week after the inauguration, the first week—one is tempted to conclude that Rove wrote those positions in order to take from that issue any sense of contrast or conflict and thereby make it non-newsworthy. It certainly had that effect, whether it was intentional or not. I can’t look into their hearts—I’ll let the grand jury do that. I’m sorry, I shouldn’t have said that."



:kick:

[AtomicKitten]

34. Did I mention that I adore AL GORE?

He has evolved into one kickass candidate.

[welshTerrier2]

35. Al needs to call for an end to the war in Iraq ...

and he needs to speak out on Iran ...

on everything else, he's looking good ...

[mtnsnake]

36. Gore hit another home run with that one

and got the attention of the media by doing so.