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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:41 PM
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Do you believe if repugs lose the senate and the House...
They will start there plan to start up wars so that there is no other choice but to start the draft?
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:43 PM
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1. No.
Congress wouldn't be in session, and there's no way draft legislation would pass quickly enough to force the 110th into it.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:43 PM
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2. Bush needs Congress to vote for wars
Unlike 2002 when he could scare the Democratic Senate into voting for the IWR, people won't be as giddy about Iran.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:50 PM
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4. They will claim that the IWR gives them the authority. I know it doesn't
but when has the law been an impediment to their colossal idiotic plans for ameriKKKa?
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:32 PM
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7. If he does that , then we will be able to repeal the IWR
nt
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:23 PM
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8. AsTonto said to the Lone Ranger ":What do you mean 'WE' Paleface?"
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:47 PM
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3. Public support for the Iraq war has dropped like a stone from those
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 04:49 PM by Old Crusoe
glorious Mission-Is-Accomplished days and even earlier, when the first shock-and-awe bomb fell on Baghdad. Things have changed.

Unless there's a dramatic and surprising turnaround very soon, I don't think a Republican-led House is going to have the opportunity to consider the point. if they're going to begin a draft, they'd better do it now when they have the votes, although I doubt it would be introduced. Introducing a draft this close to a midterm election would be Jonestown City for the Rethugs. Even idiot Bush is not foolish enough to allow himself to become Lyndon Johnson in winter of 1968.

That's not to say that Dubya and Dick and Don couldn't launch select-target, limited-strike war on Iran, and that might jack up the poll numbers temporarily, but in the cool aftermath, the entire world would see that everything his detractors have said about Bush is true: he's a bully, a remorseless little monster who is given to violent solutions to diplomatic problems. A simpleton, a corrupt man, a liar.

I'm hopeful but I think the GOP holds on to the Senate in the fall by 2 or 3 votes. But I think the Dems capture the House.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:52 PM
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5. how can a nuclear strike on Iran bolster his poll numbers
Haven't they said that they would strike back with terror attacks against Americans!
Whtt about Iraqis killing our soldiers as payback for their Shia brothers in Iran.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:04 PM
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6. I don't believe it would be a nuclear strike, but a non-nuclear series
of air strikes against targets "believed" to be strategic to Iran's nuclear program.

That's if the strikes are called. I'm by no means sure they will be and I am by all means opposed to the idea.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:27 PM
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9. aWoL's plan is to hit Iran from the air, maybe with Israel's help. Iran
will retaliate against Israel. Israel will nuke Iran. The ME will strike against Israel, The US will nuke the ME. China will attack the USA. The USA will launch everything at everywhere and little lord pissypants rides off to heaven with 4400 other true believers.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:52 PM
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10. Good lord, Vincardog. That's a pretty stressful outcome.
I hope none of it happens. I am worried about the limited air strikes, though. This is a trigger-happy bunch in the administration and the Pentagon, and I'm concerned that they will try to jack their poll numbers with military flash.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:55 PM
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11. I think the military wants a cool down
even they realize that after the shock and awe comes the brutal, long and dirty war.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:59 PM
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12. Hi, MissWaverly. I hope you are right. A cool down, especially in
the Middle East, would be a very welcomed thing.

Evidently Condileeza Rice did not help matters much with her surprise cameo in Baghdad with Jack Straw.

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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:06 PM
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13. The problem is they promised quick success with Iraq
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 09:07 PM by MissWaverly
and it has been a total debacle, and they said we would be greeted as "liberators" No one
is going to fall for this pump up the volume rhetoric again. There is no way that we
can sustain war on another front. Nice to see that you are still hanging out at the "Du"

:-)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:19 PM
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14. Nicely put, MissW, as always. Thank you for the kind words, too.
And you're right. I think Don Rumsfeld is still waiting for that first delivery of roses...
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:28 PM
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15. I saw Bush tonight on television
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 09:30 PM by MissWaverly
He rushed to Massachusetts in a funk because that State is setting up a program so its
people will all have health coverage, they frame it as "it's cheaper for the
State of Massachusetts to help people pay premiums than pay for care for the
many uninsured. All he did was dither on and on about the cost to small business
does he ever worry about the cost to small business about the Iraq War, Afghanistan
or any of his many town hall meetings. People are now rushing past him in all 50 states
to handle what they see as "the problem." Things are spinning out of control and people
are tired of blather and I think the Iraqis are too.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:33 PM
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16. My hunch is that you're right. The states are just going over his head.
The GOP sycophants in the House are finally in the clear about their re-election chances if Iraq doesn't improve. They have good reason to be nervous, if not unhinged. I don't think it's going to improve anytime soon, especially with Straw and Rice trying to set the table.

I didn't know Dubya zipped up to Massachusetts. Too bad all the blue voters there didn't round him up and institutionalize him when they had the chance!
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:38 PM
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17. I'll have the lame duck , please
Tomorrow's my birthday, my sister asked me what I wanted, I said "Fitzmas!"
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:00 PM
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20. Oh hey -- happy birthday to you, MissWaverly. I hope it's a very
good one and to your liking on all terms.

Now with "Fitzmas," you'd have to share that present with all the rest of us!

But what a nice present!
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:07 PM
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21. Thanks, will gladly share!
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:45 PM
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18. I am sure that Mitt Romney gave him a warm hug
and said thanks, George, you are doing a heckuva job!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:56 PM
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19. LOL! I can just picture it happening, too.
Unfortunately.

:thumbsup:



:hi:
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:27 PM
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22. Well then stop the Idiot Bush before he takes the next step.
You already see the same ramp up by the Corporate controlled Media as we Saw before Iraq. Truth be told aWoL is INSANE. Nothing else explains what is happening.
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:35 AM
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23. Just a durn minute. Don't put it all on my lap. You have to help, too.
I want to see your butt out there volunteering for every Democrat that moves leading up to the 06 and 08 elections.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:36 PM
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24. Like I was in 2000 2002 2004 & 2006 so far? I will see you in the streets
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:51 PM
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25. Bless ya. I can howl at the moon here on DU but what I like the best is
hitting the pavement or even stuffing envelopes in the company of fellow Dems who want people like George W. Bush OUT of power, and sooner would be better than later.

With this morning's news about Bush and the Plame leak, I am even more buoyed for a blue wave in November.

Vincardog, you hang in there, and if I am ever to meet you at party functions or a volunteer event, the pleasure would be mine.

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