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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:20 PM
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Cafferty: "We were sold a different ending to this story 3 years ago"




Cafferty smacks down Kurtz

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/03/23.html#a7638

On the Situation Room, Jack Cafferty just smacked down Howard Kurtz after Howie agreed with the GOP talking point that the press is too negative in its coverage of Iraq. Cafferty came on immediately and was livid, saying that was ridiculous.

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(Can someone write a transcript? I'm working on it now) I'll update the post as I go along. Some computer problems kicked in.) rough transcript...

Kurtz tells us that it's so dangerous in Iraq that reporters can't cover all the stories they would like and they are frustrated, yet he defends the negative reporting argument. If it's too dangerous to cover stories for journalists doesn't that tell you something Howie?

Kurtz: I do think we are seeing more negative coverage now...

Blitzer: Any signs of backlash against the MSM...

Kurtz: Yes, among conservatives and military family members, a lot of people-as we saw that woman from WV, blaming us for the situation there.

Cafferty:..they don't like the coverage, maybe because we were sold a different ending to this story three years ago. We were told that we would be embraced as conquering heroes-flower pedals strewn in the soldiers paths. A unity government would be formed. Everything would be rosy. This, three years after the fact, the troops would be home.

Well, it's not turning out that way and if somebody came into NYC and blew up St. Patrick's Cathedral and in the resulting days they were finding sixty dead bodies a day in NY, do you suppose we would cover it? You're damn right they would. This is nonsense. It's the media's fault that the news isn't good in Iraq. The news isn't good in Iraq. There's violence in Iraq. People are found dead eveeryday in the streets of Baghdad. This didn't turn out the way the politicians told us it would and it's our fault? I beg to differ.

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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:23 PM
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1. K&R!! Anybody Who Doesn't Like The Bad News
Can just go down there and start Happy War News inc., better update their life insurance first though!
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:23 PM
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2. Cafferty rules!
He ought to be the one in the spotlight, as opposed to the U-boat subcommandant Volf Blitzer
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:24 PM
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3. The Media IS Positive on the topic of the War.
They have a positive bias.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:26 PM
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4. Wow. His disgust is palpable.
Peace.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:28 PM
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5. Thanks for posting...
will watch later.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:50 PM
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6. How did Kurtz react to the beating?
I hope he cried.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:47 PM
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9. Kurtz was gone by the time Cafferty spoke.
The comments were addressed to Blitzer. Too bad...it would have been nice if Kurtz had stuck around.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:37 PM
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7. Kurtz, what a joker.

You hit it Bush_Eats_Beef!!!

"Kurtz tells us that it's so dangerous in Iraq that reporters can't cover all the stories they would like and they are frustrated, yet he defends the negative reporting argument. If it's too dangerous to cover stories for journalists doesn't that tell you something Howie?"

Ha Ha Ha. Hey Kurtz it's so dangerous that the reporters can't get out to report on all the good happy stories.
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:41 PM
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8. when did Cafferty start making sense lately???
for the last few months there must be a great snowball fight in hell
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 01:06 PM
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21. AFAIC....
.... Katrina was his tipping point...
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Zimmy44 Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:52 PM
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10. Go Cafferty!
I really wish they would give Cafferty a bigger role. He's always been the reality check on that show.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 12:22 AM
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11. Oh, for a thousand Jack Caffertys, and no Howie-Kurtz tools. nt
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 12:58 AM
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12. Gee, Mistah Kurtz
Ran into someone who was ready for the GOP talking point, did you? The RNC blast fax spits out some bullshit about how things aren't going well in Iraq because of the media. It's not because of poor planning. It's not because of administration incompetence. It's not because war is a piss-poor tool of foreign policy. No, it's the media, isn't it Mistah Kurtz?

You fucking delusional tool, Kurtz.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:28 AM
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13. It's strange
how that simple concept, "its too dangerous to cover the 'good news' stories in Iraq", seems to escape those pushing this made-up BS of "its the media's fault".

I guess logic ain't their stong suit.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:52 AM
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14. I used to think he was a repulican crank
but now I think he's just a crank but glad he's sortof on our side
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:04 AM
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15. Three quick points... (great find, thank you)
1) Kurtz says journalists are frustrated because they can't cover ordinary Iraqis: it's already been covered. Two polls months apart show a vast majority if Iraqis want us out now and a simple majority endorse assassination attempts against our soldiers. Cover "ordinary" Iraqis and ask them this MSM. How pathetic.

2) Blitzer asks if there's a backlash among Americans. Oh yea, the 70% that think our policy sucks and want us out.

Interim conclusion: Kurtz and Blitzer are on the Republican payroll.

3) Cafferty bats clean up and says they're both full of shit and liars. That's very clear.

Final conclusion: Cafferty is God! He's the best television journalist now, he's a true patriot also.

Great stuff.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:12 AM
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16. How come the CIC never visits the troops in Iraq? How come the media
doesn't cover the funerals of dead soldiers the way the media in other countries do when their dead heroes return? Italy and Spain give them state funerals. And why do Americans tolerate the treatment of their dead by this administration? Why does the media allow this administration to forbid photos of their return?

Bush is a disgrace as a CIC. We were told that he would be able to march victoriously down main street in Baghdad, and that streets would be named after him. What happened to that?

The good news seems to be how many millionaires Bush has created. Maybe the media should report on that ~ just heard Elaine Boosler (standing in for Stephanie Miller) say that Bush's uncle has 'made money from the blood of this war'. They are talking about the no-bid contracts going to Bush's cronies.

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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:35 AM
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17. Kurtz is correct
The media is ignoring all the positive news from Iraq.

To remedy this, Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly should set an example for all those cowardly lefty journalistas hiding on Green Zone balconies by going to Iraq, embedding with one of those really brave Iraqi battalions, and hanging out at Iraqi police stations and Shiite mosques. They should stay there and report until we win this war. Go team!!!!

Oh, and they surely don't need any body armor or security contractors because that stuff just slows you down. Besides, God will protect them.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:20 AM
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18. You are right, Mr. Cafferty Thanks for saying so nm
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:34 AM
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19. Here's a link to the transcript...
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:38 AM
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20. Can someone verify if Blitzer worked for CBNs 700 club news bureau
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 11:41 AM by EVDebs
I've read this on the web at yuricareport

"It’s scary to hear someone carry-on like Pat. But it’s sort of strange to realize that Pat and Wolf Blitzer go way back together. Yep! Wolf used to work for Pat Robertson's CBN way back when Pat was setting up his news bureau and Wolf was the 700 Club’s reporter from the Middle East. He was a lot younger in those days, but in those beginning days Pat exposed Wolf Blitzer to a viewing audience that topped the Nielsen ratings at 28.7 million monthly viewers! That’s a great way to launch one’s career. But Wolf Blitzer likes to keep that part of his career kind of quiet. He doesn’t list the 700 Club’s news bureau in his biography. He doesn’t tell CNN’s audience that Pat was like an angel to him when he was just an independent reporter starting out. But those of us who watched Pat’s show could never forget Wolf Blitzer’s reports. He was presented to us as such an expert—we were just so proud of him! And look how high he’s gone. You’d think he’d give Pat a little credit. No doubt he says “Thanks” by inviting him on CNN!"

www.yuricareport.com/Media/OnPatRobertsonWolfeBlitzerAndDavidCorn.html

and I'm trying to get it verified but neither CNN or Blitzer will say for sure.

BTW, bravo to Jack for not 'catapulting the propaganda' sunshine up our asses.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 01:34 PM
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22. This is what a curmudgeon is for.
Rock on!
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holboz Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:47 PM
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23. Cafferty rules! I'd love to see him on "Real Time" eom
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galatea Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:10 AM
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24. I'd love to see Kurtz
in an Abhu Graib cell, terrorized and bitten by two German Shepherds. He would turn 'negative' very quickly.

The media is part of the reason Americans bought into this illegal war in the first place. Now that it's starting to report maybe 5% of what's really going on in Iraq, these Bush stenographers have the balls to tell the coverage is being too negative.

Kurtz, what an unimaginable scum.
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