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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:29 AM
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Bush's Strange Speech Mannerisms
Since yesterday's press conference, there has been a lot of discussion on DU about Bush's strange speech mannerisms and a lot of speculation about whether he has an earpiece and is being coached when he answers questions. Here is my take on his speech:

By nature, Bush probably thinks in pictures and diagrams, not in language. He is not analytical; he is very impatient; and he lacks intellectual curiosity. He wants action. He wants everything done now. He doesn't want to have to take the time to think through the process, to consider how what he wants done can be accomplished. As a result he speaks and thinks in disjointed fragments not in a linear fashion. He visualizes the end result but not the step by step process needed to get from point A to point B. Therefore he does not think or speak in sentences that flow from idea to idea. Instead, he barks, commands and demands. He hates to have to explain. It is painful to him to have to slowly explain his ideas to the American people. Thus, he always sounds frustrated. He blurts things out as if it is an imposition on him to have to talk coherently.

In addition, Bush never developed much verbal or language ability and has only a limited vocabulary. I don't mean that he is illiterate or that he hasn't heard or "read" a fair amount. I mean that he isn't tuned in to language. He has only a shallow understanding of the nuances and meanings and uses of words. Most guys with his kind of mind end up driving a truck, repairing your plumbing or fixing cars. They are great guys, but they like to do things, to get action, not to plan and go to meetings and write reports and study things. It's not necessarily better to be one way or the other. It's just different. Unfortunately, a president needs to be able to communicate well. Even more unfortunately that's not what guys like Bush do best.

So how are Bush's handlers dealing with the fact that he doesn't have the personality or the communication skills to be a good president? They are coaching him. They talk to him a lot about the language he is supposed to use in his public comments. I'll bet that he uses very different language and has a very different style when he speaks naturally. As a result, Bush's most noticeable speech mannerism is that he sounds phony -- not just in his choice of words, but in his intonation. He sounds a little more genuine now than he did five years ago, but he still sounds like there is no connection whatsoever between what he feels -- his emotions and the words he is pronouncing. In addition, when Bush speaks, he is remembering what he is supposed to say. He is reciting language and phrases he has learned by rote. He does not have a thought and express it from a palette of words. He tries to remember what words his handlers have told him he is supposed to use. We hear the disconnect. His words are not arising from creative or problem-solving thought processes. He is simply recalling them. It's almost as if he were playing Bingo. He hears a question. He searches his mind to see if he recalls the words he is supposed to connect to the key words in the question and he yells out an answer.

The result for him shows in the polls. People were initially impressed by the sound bites he repeated over and over, but as time has passed, more and more of us are hearing the disconnect, the rote repetition, the lack of emotional link between Bush's words and his feelings. First people subconsciously realize that Bush sounds insincere, and then gradually they conclude that he sounds downright dishonest. Bush will never be able to change his speech mannerisms. They grow out of who and what he is. 60 years from now people will look at videos of Bush's press conferences the way we look at Hitler's speeches and ask themselves "How could anyone have supported him or liked him? He sounds wrong. You can just hear it." Folks, we need to listen more carefully to the speech patterns of people who seek to lead us. Speech is the true mirror of the soul.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:32 AM
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1. Watch the Ten Year difference in speech patterns by Bush
http://www.adbuzz.com/bushbuzz.htm

something else to think about
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:32 AM
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2. When HeLeans on his left elbow...
...he doesn't give the proverbial FLYING FUCK about what he's talking about!

It's nice to be back after a long absence!

PEACE!
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:07 AM
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15. You're absolutely right about the body language he uses. It
just screams insincerity and lies. And the facial expressions are a dead giveaway.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:34 PM
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39. His Face,...
...when leaning on that elbow is one of such arrogance it's unbelievable!
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:34 AM
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3. Interesting. But if you watch his old speeches, he was pretty
coherent. He's gotten increasingly fragmented and weird.
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Cornus Donating Member (720 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:46 AM
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8. Don't think so...
If it's written for him and he's following that script, you're right. However, whenever he speaks without a script, he has ALWAYS verbally fumbled. He has seldom ever uttered a coherent sentence unless it was scripted.

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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:34 AM
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4. I think you have it right. Best explanatin I have heard so far.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:38 AM
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5. Or he might just be nuttier than a squirrel turd.


Granted he has all kinds of mannerisms and traits that do lend to
being a good speaker but I really think he is going nuts in front of us.

"It hit the benchmarks so I was hardened by that but still it does not mean
that I am happy with the slices of the pie." (rough quote from yesterday)
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:47 AM
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9. I agree with you!
I think the harsh reality of being President has reached a point where it no longer jives with his fantasy of being President. And it's just getting worse every day!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:43 AM
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23. There are those fragments again
Hit the Benchmark. Hardened. Slices of the pie. Now, I don't think anyone would put those "idea fragments" together in ONE sentence. But Shrub does.

And why does he do it? Because of what the OP said. He's flailing around mentally for all the memorized bits and pieces. And if they all come out in one sentence, who cares? That's his thinking.

He just doesn't have the linguisitc intelligence to understand that what he's saying JUST SOUNDS WEIRD.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 03:29 PM
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50. "federal cufflinks"
"OBs and GYNs spreading their love with women"

Flying wordbats in his brain just coalescing in one big kaboom.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:42 AM
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6. It's also just sloppy approximation
The guy's so deeply lazy that he barely even phones it in. Your take is spot on: he learns things by rote and just slaps together boilerplate cliches and fuzzy buzz-phrases. To listen to him is to listen to a liar who doesn't even give a damn about putting enough effort into his performance to actually try to sell his product; he thinks that going through the motions is more than we peons should expect in the first place.

Just listening to him bungle the usage of "ascribe" and "subscribe" as he did yesterday is enough to put one's teeth on edge and shows that his analog usage of language is nothing more than a big smear of whatevers.

The scorn of others is apparent with every syllable, and his retreat to the comfort of mealy-mouthed claims of "hard work" just show his monumental selfishness.

Very good analysis, by the way; not only do I think you summed it all up well, it shows precisely the care and respect for the audience that this man chronically lacks.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:53 AM
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10. Thanks.
You are so right. His language is a "sloppy approximation" of --- whatever!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:07 PM
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37. He's always struck me as a sleazy used car salesman in his mannerisms.
The way he does this "pigeon walk" thing leaning on the lectern and quickly thrusting his head and upper body forward in staccato motions, like he's trying to punch the words at you physically - it has the effect of being unnaturally forced. It feels as though he's trying to force-feed something. That smile he smiles when he's trying to drive home a point, as though THAT's the punctuation mark on the sentence.

And that diction. Oh my aching brain, that diction. He always reminds me of, well, me, and everybody else I drank with during dorm drinking parties. After you've had quite a few, and you still fancy yourself somewhat coherent, I've found there's a tendency (and I tried it myself) to try to OVER-EE-NUN-SEE-ATE some of them big 30 or 40-dollar words to prove you're still with it. It's artificial, contrived, very unnatural, and makes the listener MOST uncomfortable (at least it does with me). As though you know instinctively that you're being put on.

I KNOW he's not on the level. I KNOW he's just trying some sleazy sales job, and that what he's selling is worse than a lemon (with apologies to lemons everywhere).

Most interesting assessment here. Makes a great deal of sense, especially since it goes to his inherent laziness. He can't even bother pronouncing words decently, no less being able to string more than a few scripted ones together. What a disgrace.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:33 PM
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64. He really is a feckless fuck, isn't he?
Not that I'm the first to point out this dominant trait, but it really does explain a lot about hereditary conservatives and especially this slovenly asshole.

He doesn't want to be bothered. He deserves to be the top of the heap, and he deserves it by such an aristocratic superiority that he shouldn't ever even have to do more than show up.

This is the deep truth of hereditary conservatives: they're monarchists who expect to be unassailed by any forces of nature. The ugliness of the dismissal of others is nauseating, and it's even uglier because this little nobody has never accomplished anything on his own. He's been the protected scion of privilege and he's incompetent beyond belief.

For a creature of so many faults, laziness is perhaps the dominant one.

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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:13 AM
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73. agree
that a large part of Chimpy's problems with language and delivery is caused by his arrogant attitude and impatience. The old "aristocratic superiority," coupled with "damn the torpedoes" thoughtless action -- yikes. How many times have we seen this lethal combination in the monomaniacal leaders of history? Add to this classic type --a reasonable assumption of alcohol or drug related brain damage...

We Americans deserve better.

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 08:00 PM
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72. DING DING DING! Calimary, you're our grand prize winner!
Edited on Sun Mar-26-06 08:00 PM by rocknation
...Oh my aching brain, that diction...there's a tendency (and I tried it myself) to try to OVER-EE-NUN-SEE-ATE some of them big 30 or 40-dollar words to prove you're still with it. It's artificial, contrived, very unnatural, and makes the listener MOST uncomfortable...

Yep, it's like watching Guys And Dolls, with all the characters thinking they sound high class because they do not employ the use of the words that are contracted, which only proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are far from being high class as they are from the stars. Wherever Damon Runyon is, he must be smiling.

x(
rocknation
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:41 PM
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66. Great post!
Basically * has all the traits of a sociopath. :puke:
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Theide Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:31 PM
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68. Sociopaths tend to be fairly intelligent, so he doesn't qualify.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:46 AM
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7. K, R, and added to my Journal list of recommended DU posts --
thanks, JDP.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:58 AM
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11. Also, KKKarl must be pretty antsy about Plamegate
and as a result his little voicefeeds into *'s ear may be more garbled than usual.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:03 AM
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12. The results of the coaching that Bush receives really show up
when he is trying to explain something to his listeners. You can tell that he is repeating the talking points just as the subject was explained to him, point by point, item by item. But he really sound condescending when he says "let me explain this to the American people in a way that they can understand".
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:04 AM
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13. Why haven't you started your Journal and...
why isn't this posted there?



K & R

:)
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:06 AM
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14. I'm not very computer savvy. I opened a journal page
but I don't know what to do with it. I don't know how to post to it or how it works. I haven't taken the time to read up on it. -- Sign me, Lazy Like Bush
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:09 AM
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17. there should be a link at the bottom of your original post
that says 'add to my journal'.

That's all it takes. :thumbsup:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:08 AM
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16. Thanks for the tip.
I looked a little more closely and posted it to my journal.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:11 AM
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18. Even in the early stages of dementia, Reagan could speak....
His acting experience helped...

Bush has gotten "worse"--he could speak clearly when running for Governor. Not intelligently--he still impressed me as a half-bright Fratboy. But he wasn't so deeply damaged.

About Hitler: I watched a film of him speaking & felt I could understand him. My German classes were long ago & I was frightened by the power of his speech. Yes, there was "something wrong." But it was Pure Evil--not an Idiot Pawn in the service of Pure Evil.

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CantGetFooledAgain Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:14 AM
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19. I think that the use of an earpiece is obvious
When answering a question, he manages to get out a few words at first, then pauses, looks down or to the side (can't maintain eye contact with the audience), blinks a lot, and finally starts speaking again. He is clearly listening to be told what his next sentence will be. Sometimes this is more glaringly obvious than other times, but to me it has never been in doubt.

I think that the performance during the first debate with Kerry may have been due to a malfunction of the prompting device. All he could remember on his own was "It's hard work", so he just kept repeating that over and over.

The press knows all about it, but reporting on it is strictly verboten I'm sure.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:21 AM
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20. Two quotes stated directly from his own gut/brain:
"Bring 'em on."

"Got wood?"

.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:24 AM
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21. Good Suskind article about this.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?ex=1255665600&en=890a96189e162076&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland

(from Oct. 04)
Might have to sign in.

"The disdainful smirks and grimaces that many viewers were surprised to see in the first presidential debate are familiar expressions to those in the administration or in Congress who have simply asked the president to explain his positions. Since 9/11, those requests have grown scarce; Bush's intolerance of doubters has, if anything, increased, and few dare to question him now. A writ of infallibility -- a premise beneath the powerful Bushian certainty that has, in many ways, moved mountains -- is not just for public consumption: it has guided the inner life of the White House. As Whitman told me on the day in May 2003 that she announced her resignation as administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency: ''In meetings, I'd ask if there were any facts to support our case. And for that, I was accused of disloyalty!'' (Whitman, whose faith in Bush has since been renewed, denies making these remarks and is now a leader of the president's re-election effort in New Jersey.)"
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:30 AM
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22. "Bush probably thinks..." that is the trouble - he doesn't think, he......
.....does as he's told. I suggest we need to look at the people that lead, coach, advise the people who want to represent us. They "handlers" are the brains behind the body in front of the cameras.
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 04:57 PM
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31. i agree
what i'm seeing is a typical day consisting of lots of physical exercise, rehearsing speeches, getting made-up for the camera, traveling to speeches and fundraisers, dinners and posing for pictures etc. these activities don't leave much time for....well.. running the country.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:46 AM
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24. Excellent, JBPriestly
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 11:49 AM by frogmarch
Great analysis!

I watched the press conference only because I couldn't NOT watch it. I was transfixed. It was as close to a total meltdown on Bush's part as I've yet seen. I think he's ready to blow.

EDITED TO ADD: :kick: and Recommended
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:49 AM
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25. Turkey mannerisms
A couple of times he bobbed his head up and down just like a turkey would do. It was quite exaggerated and i'm surprised others haven't mentioned it.
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DarleenMB Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 01:11 PM
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26. hmmm.
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 01:12 PM by DarleenMB
I think in pictures, have a mensa level IQ, extremely high verbal skills and am a natural at most languages I've studied.

Kinda throws a kink in your theory about how bush "thinks," doesn't it?

Personally I don't believe he thinks at all using pictures OR language.

Forgot to mention I was, once upon a time, a chemistry major and had plans (until we moved to Wyoming) to pursue a degree in computer science (back in the dark ages of punch cards and Fortran).
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 01:14 PM
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27. Welcome to DU, DarleenMB!
:hi:

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DarleenMB Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 12:09 AM
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41. Thanks!
I tend to lurk a lot but sometimes I can't seem to keep my mouth shut. ;)
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:11 AM
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44. Welcome!
Edited on Thu Mar-23-06 09:11 AM by Vinnie From Indy
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slide to the left Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 03:13 PM
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28. great video nt
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 04:29 PM
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29. Comparing Shrub to Hitler regarding speeches is ...
interesting. Shrub is pitiful when he doesn't have a prepared speech on the Teleprompter. Even with one he comes off as phoney and wooden. Hitler was a great orator. He delivered his speeches with grand vim and vigour. Some called him mesmorizing. In comparison, Shrub is a mental midget. I strongly suspect that Shrub has progressibe brain damage.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:49 PM
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40. Do you understand German? I do. Hitler sounds ridiculous
nowadays. I did not mean to say that he and Bush sound similar. They don't. But when our children and grandchildren see videos of Bush's speeches they are going to shake their heads and ask "How could anyone have fallen for that guy? What a kook!" I do the same thing when I hear Hitler. He was not mesmerizing at all. He was loud and sanctimonious and arrogant -- a really obnoxious guy.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:00 AM
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43. Great analysis of Bush. I'm going to save it.

Concerning Hitler, I don't understand German. I've always heard he was a great public speaker.

He may seem all the things you said, to someone who understands German. But I wonder if some of it could be the times we're living in vs. Hitler's time.

What I mean is, think of rock groups, singers, movies, bestselling books, etc., that are blockbusters in their time, but after some decades have passed, they seem corny and/or campy.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 10:32 AM
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46. Exactly! Things seem campy after time because they
lacked quality in the first place.
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juliana24 Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:14 AM
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45. Lots of Booze and Coke=Drain Bamage ! nt
:)
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 04:50 PM
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30. Your post should be required reading. The man is a sociopath.
He lacks empathy, so he has to be trained to "act" appropriately empathetic at times where that is called for.

I agree with your assessment that he thinks "me want," and everything else is what he has to say because his handlers have so coached him.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:05 PM
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32. There was recently an article about a connection between cocaine abuse and
medical issues in the brain, specifically some sort of vascular degeneration, leading to earlier-than-expected problems, such as strokes, etc.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:15 PM
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33. I will never forget the interview Bush had with Russert,
Russert asked him " was your decision to go to war with Iraq based on choice or necessity" Bush answered "can you elaborate on that question."

Poor Russert was so blown away he was speechless. There was a lull in the conversation while Bush pondered the question. Finally, I guess the question kicked in to his PEA BRAIN, and he answered "oh necessity."

That convinced me that something is seriously wrong with his gray matter.

It was totally bizarre!!
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:28 PM
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34. Anyone notice in todays speech when *co. called on someone
in the audience and then pretended to scare himself by blowing hard directly into the mic and then sort of jumped back when the mic made that whoosh sound??

I could not believe it! I guess he was trying to make a joke. But, OMG it was totally bizarre.
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 04:05 PM
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53. He was probably waiting for his earfeed to kick in.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:52 PM
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35. I think your analysis is right on JDPriestly, the only thing I would add,
is,I don't think Bush's mental pictures are fully developed, maybe he looked directly at the sun too long as a child and burned the film up.

Kicked and recommended.



:kick:
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 07:14 PM
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36. I'll bet his nasal passages are alot bigger than most
due to his coke habit.

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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:58 PM
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38. He's an idiot
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:50 AM
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42. The Bush Dyslexicon: Observations on a National Disorder (Paperback)

The Bush Dyslexicon: Observations on a National Disorder (Paperback)
by Mark Crispin Miller
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0393322963/002-1318249-7048822?v=glance&n=283155

From Publishers Weekly
Miller, a New York University professor of media studies, has fashioned a devastating compendium of President George W. Bush's grammatical gaffes, syntactical shipwrecks, mind-boggling malapropisms and simply dumb comments. Page after page (after page) of quotations, suggests Miller, reveal that Bush is a man who, while not stupid, is prodigiously illiterate and woefully uneducated. Further, and compounding the problem, Bush could not care less about these shortcomings.

How then, Miller asks, and this is his larger concern, did someone in Miller's opinion so obviously unqualified to be president convince so many voters that he was? Miller's answer is, in a word, television: Bush succeeded on TV not despite his "utter superficiality," but because his superficiality blended seamlessly with the vacuous culture of the tube. It was not simply that Bush's handlers were able to manipulate his image, attempting to construct out of his ignorance an anti-intellectual "good ole boy" persona, but that news professionals in the medium were all too willing to go along with this ploy. They went along because the pundits of TV have become, according to Miller, increasingly right-wing, thus natural Bush allies, but also because they no longer care to talk about substance, preferring instead discussion of "likability" and other attributes of pure image.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:13 PM
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48. his hand gestures remind me of a rapper....same movements.
george missed his calling!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:09 PM
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47. In other words, he* acts and talks like a 3 year old. nt
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 09:32 AM
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61. I've known 3-y.o.s, I've lived with 3- y.o.s, and GWB is no 3- y.o.!
He lacks the basic integrity. Though I grant you that the parroting and the tantrums aren't that different. ;)
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:36 PM
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49. PSY. CHO. PATH. Trying to communicate as a functioning human.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 03:52 PM
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51. That's a very good analysis, P.
I'm sorry you had to watch him closely to come to these conclusions. My days of watching Bush are over. I took my TV out to the garage so nobody could turn on the TV with him on.

There's just one word that comes to mind from your analysis: Mynah bird. Bush's handlers probably train him just like the bird. They train him, he repeats the answers, and they give him a treat.

If you want to read an interesting article, check out the Time magazine coverage of the presidential debates last year. The article talked about how a group of people were sitting in the back room, watching him nervously as he debated Kerry. They became desperate when scowled, winced, pouted and sulked. They actually showed photos of the handlers, wringing their hands and pouncing on him when he went back there. Karen Hughes was there.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 03:17 AM
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54. No. I don't watch him.
I can't stand to. I listen to him, his voice. I'm trained in music, literature, language and have lived a long time.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 12:18 AM
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57. there's something to that "treat" theory ... seriously!
Even Bob Woodward noticed this ...

"Ten days before his inauguration, Dubya, Dick Cheney, Donald 'Rummy' Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell went to the Pentagon to meet with outgoing Defense Secretary William Cohen. Afterward, Dubya and company headed "downstairs to the Tank, the secure domain and meeting room for the Joint Chiefs of Staff.... Bush asked some practical questions about how things worked, but he did not offer or hint at his desires. The Joint Chiefs' staff had placed a peppermint at each place. Bush unwrapped his and popped it into his mouth. Later he eyed Cohen's mint and flashed a pantomime query, Do you want that? Cohen signaled no, so Bush reached over and took it. Near the end of the hour-and-a-quarter briefing, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Army Gen. Henry H. Shelton, noticed Bush eyeing his mint, so he passed it over.""

http://www.dubyaspeak.com/incidents.phtml?page=3
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 03:56 PM
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52. I've heard from some people who have been exposed to him
personally that he has a real gutter-mouth when the mikes aren't on. Come to think of it - we've all had a sample or two of that when he didn't know he was on air.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 03:19 AM
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55. I would not be surprised.
The problem with profanity is that it is so easy. It doesn't take much analysis to express emotion through "dirty" words. In my view, there is nothing morally wrong about profanity. I object to it because it is linguistically and intellectually lazy when used habitually. Guess I'm just an intellectual snob in that respect. Sorry if I'm stepping on some Duers' toes.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 11:03 AM
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62. i've heard the same from someone who worked w/ him

nasty temper, gutter mouth, calls all the women 'gals'.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 04:12 AM
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56. Not only does he
have a limited vocabulary but he also knows the HORRIBLE TRUTH!

So when he's in a press conference he has to be very careful to say the OPPOSITE of what is true, which is probably another reason why he has to search around in his brain for the words to make sure he says the right thing and doesn't give the game away.

Of course, not being very bright he does let quite a few things slip out like "catapulting the propaganda". But mostly he manages by sticking to generalities and cliches.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 12:27 AM
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58. excellent points!
Often he is further hampered by trying to recall/project emotions which his handlers have told him he's supposed to be feeling. If he doesn't care about people (other than himself and his friends), he'll have to grope around when he's ad-libbing, to claim any regret, shame, or sorrow, for things happening to those whom he secretly believes deserve the worst -- Democrats, intellectuals, poor people, Iraqis. His voice hesitates and his thought processes slow down. On the other hand, he finds it relatively easy to talk about punishing or destroying "evil", because he loves that ... the words come so quickly that he can barely get them out in time. (Notice the way he jumped in and talked with relish about how some criminals were executed in Texas, during the 2000 debates ... he interrupted the question and was so hasty that he got some facts wrong.)
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 12:28 AM
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59. This is one of my all-time favorite DU posts. Thank you!
:toast:
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 09:13 AM
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60. You're right, if he were George W. Anybodyelse, he would be
happily driving a truck, not floundering out of his depth in the White House.

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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 12:18 PM
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63. 1 other thing, JD. Ever notice how he puts accents on the wrong syllables?
Lots of accents on the last words of his sentences, with an added tone of bewilderment in the form of a higher-pitched whiney sound, with more of a soprano pitch on that particular syllable, too....almost like he sounds like he's pleading:

"There are a lot of bad people who would like to harm us."

"I never actually said Iraq had direct connections to them "terrorists."

"Laura and I attempted to have sex last month."

Either that or he just totally fucks up his placement of accents completely, again with the higher pitched, bewilderment whiney tone to that particular word or syllable:

"We are doing our best to end this war, but it won't be easy."

:wtf:
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:39 PM
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65. Excellent post. Even if it is the only one you ever put there, this
should be in your journal. Believe me, If I can do it, you can. Keep giving us your coherent thoughts. It helps!
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:53 PM
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67. It is clear that there is a dementia of some sort
Drug, alcohol, cardio or cerebral in origin? Or all of the above.
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Doorknob Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:49 PM
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69. My grandma thinks he has early stage parkinsons. n/t
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 07:36 PM
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70. Elaborate, please
And welcome to DU.
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Doorknob Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 06:05 AM
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74. Thanks for the welcome...
My grandmother says that Bush reminds her of grandpa when he first starting showing signs of Parkinson's disease. Slurred speech, constant movement, always seems distracted.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 07:48 PM
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71. "...Bush probably thinks in pictures and diagrams, not...language...
...He is not analytical; he is very impatient...He wants action. He wants everything done now. He doesn't want to have to take the time to think through the process, to consider how what he wants done can be accomplished...He visualizes the end result but not the step by step process needed to get from point A to point B. Therefore he does not think or speak in sentences that flow from idea to idea. Instead, he barks, commands and demands."

And there is absolutely nothing unnatural or abnormal about such behavior--if you're under the age of five.

:headbang:
rocknation

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kaye45 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:50 AM
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75. How much of this is brain degeneration?
Edited on Mon Mar-27-06 07:54 AM by kaye45
It is well known that long term alcohol abuse and cocaine abuse can severely effect the frontal, pre-frontal, and temporal lobes in the brain - which have to do with impulse control, reflection, planning and executing complex cognitive sequences, language, memory, etc.

Bush leading the US is like asking a first grader to do calculus.


And don't get me started on his narcissistic personality disorder!
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