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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:18 PM
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OH: Bad batteries cause 30% failure in voting machines. IDIOTS!
I’m not in a real good mood lately but this kicks it. What type of COMPLETE IDIOTS are running the show in these elections departments. COMPLETE IDIOTS.

Bad batteries….#%@%!!!. What, did Blackwell and company go to the discount aisle at Walmart? Are they buying used batteries?

This is the summary statement about our current "democracy." To the Republicans, to the people who supported the 2002 Help America Vote Act (HAVA), to the elections officials in counties...
IT’S ALL ONE BIG JOKE.

Question: Can elections officials be ashamed?

Answer: No, they can’t feel shame to begin with. And even if they could, they wouldn’t appreciate or understand it.



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Batteries trouble voting system
Memory cards fail during Summit testing ahead of May elections


By Lisa A. Abraham
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/news/14074421.htm

Dead batteries -- that's what Election Systems & Software officials are saying is to blame for the failure of dozens of computer memory cards in Summit County's new optical scan voting system.

``What we're dealing with is a portion of one batch of cards sent out in recent weeks have an issue with low batteries,'' ES&S spokeswoman Ellen Bogard said Friday.

ES&S made the new voting equipment, but the memory cards were made by Vikant Corp., a Long Grove, Ill., company. Company officials from Vikant did not return a call seeking comment.

Testing of the county's new voting system began Monday, when the memory cards failed to work as often as 30 percent of the time.


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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:19 PM
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1. No one could have forseen that, though!
:puke:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:20 PM
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2. They thought they had those "last forever" betteries. Thats right;) n/t
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:23 PM
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3. They require BATTERIES???
Would it be too much to ask to make 'em plug into a power strip???

Jeeebus...
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 07:40 PM
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31. Why couldn't they use an Uninteruptable Power Supply?
This makes no freakin' sense, if I was to set up an electric voting machine, then I would PLUG IT INTO THE FREAKIN WALL, with a UPS in-between the wall and the computer. That way, IN CASE there is a power outage, the voting machines will keep on humming as if nothing happened, hell, attach lights to some UPS too, and you have that too. Depending on the model, you have anywhere from 1 to 3 or 4 hours before the batteries in the UPS lose their charge, so you have time to either properly shut down the system, and transfer to good ole paper ballots, or wait it out for power to kick back on with no interuption at the polls.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 02:41 AM
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33. Ghod how cretinous...

...these folks never heard of flash ram?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:23 PM
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4. If you're going to make a vote-stealing machine..
.. the least you can do is to make sure it works properly. Massive failures tend to attract attention.

But then, competence was never their strong suit.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:29 PM
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15. What a great point. If they robbed a bank, the getaway care is on empty!
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 01:29 PM by autorank
:rofl:
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:24 PM
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5. How much you wanna bet all the bad batteries were in Dem
precincts. These people are really ham-handed in their crimes.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:31 PM
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9. How clever!
You can skew the vote and make it look like an "accident"
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:25 PM
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6. "No one could have conceived of the need for a power cord."
:think:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:27 PM
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7. How can a dead battery cause a memory card to fail?
If they are using flash memory, the memory should be held until power is restored.
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:04 PM
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12. I'm an electrical engineer, let me respond in technical terms
Intentional, deliberate fraud. Period.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:10 PM
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14. Exactly!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:33 PM
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16. I'm no engineeer (although some of my best friends are) but look...
Here's the solution!

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 05:31 PM
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28. They must have used Duracell. Ha, Ha,
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:26 PM
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20. good question
i call bullshit.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:27 PM
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8. A box... a pencil...a slip of paper
What the heck is so wrong with that concept?

So we have to wait a few hours to get results. Big deal.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:46 PM
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10. Or at the very least, those mechanical ones of days gone by
You know, the one where you pulled the lever and the curtain swung closed behind you. Then you flipped the little switches that were right over the names (no confusion whatsoever), then pulled the lever again and your vote was recorded and the switches reset.

The pulling of the lever provided the energy for the whole process. You could vote in a power outage by candlelight, if you had to. And the mechanical workings of the machine could be easily inspected to make sure that votes were being tallied accurately. The mechanism was actually very simple.

Oh, I remember what happened to those machines. The Republicans grabbed absolute power and wanted to make sure they could cheat so that they NEVER lose it. That's why we don't have those machines anymore.
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:55 PM
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23. they are still used widely in NY
im not sure for how much longer though
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 07:31 PM
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30. I actually voted for John Kerry on one of those machines
It is my understanding that they are being pulled for the next election, replaced with the modern machines purchased by Mike Foster's SOS or Supervisor of Elections. I'm going to miss those machines.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:49 PM
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27. A few hours versus
several weeks? How antiquated.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:59 PM
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11. You know what that means.
Bad batteries go into machines in Democratic districts.....good ones go in Republican districts.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:37 PM
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17. A variation on "spoilage"..."bat shit lazy"
How can people even comment on this stuff seriously. These are the people we're dealing with...the fourth string, those who couldn't make trainer on the junior varsity, the only really stupid people in high tech.

Amazing and pathetic. How much more will the public tolerate?

Probably another election fiasco, like the Republicans retaining control of congress despite huge odds against it.

Oh, some ass wipe will come along and explain that the polls were all off. That happened in Ohio recently when pro democracy resolutions polling 60-30% by the best poll in America, arguably, LOST 60-30%. They've got their "fixers" at the technical and political level and their paid Mandarin whores to explain it all.

NO MORE BULLSHIT. FREE & FAIR ELECTIONS.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:07 PM
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13. People without
consciences are incapable of shame. Aren't they called . . .SOCIOPATHS . . .?

'scuse me for yellin'
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:38 PM
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18. YELL AWAY. WE'RE LIVING IN A FAUX DEMOCRACY!!! n/t
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:28 PM
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19. Glad to not be alone
in observation of this obvious and most pathetic fact.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:34 PM
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21. Batteries? How 70's
Most people these days use Non volatile memory (NVM). That would be grounds for getting fired where I used to work.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:39 PM
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22. Don't worry, that little "code" error on the cards
will be fixed toot-sweet

:sarcasm:
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Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:13 PM
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24. It's a test run for November
testing excuses. Will this one fly?
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Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:15 PM
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25. OMG! The star is there already!
sorry for going off topic, but that's so cool. I felt naked without one. Now I have one. I can't wait to see what sort of superpowers come with it!
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:39 PM
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26. That is what they're supposed to do
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 04:45 PM by MissWaverly
This is how the Republicans polling at 36% can be re-elected as a majority with 66% per cent
of all votes COUNTED. Very Simple. It's how Bush got the majority of the vote in '04
when he went in to the 04 elections polling at a whopping 47% of the vote.

Remember what I said about the Bush getting double the number of registered Republican who voted in Maryland in 04.

Kerry = 1,334,493
Bush = 1,024,703

registered Democrats who voted = 1,340,778
registered Republicans who voted = 733,643

Well, I read today on a blog, that the same miracle happened in
Florida in 04, Bush received twice the number of votes as
the number of registered Republican voters.

Hold my hand, it's a genuine miracle.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 07:05 PM
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29. Geesh - it's ONLY 30% of the time!
They're lucky they have 30% accuracy!

What do you want - 100% accuracy or something?!?!

How unreasonable can you get!

Besides, it probably only affects DEMOCRATIC votes, so who cares anyway!

It's not like it's as easy as doing an ATM or sumptin!

Get a life!
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 08:14 PM
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32. Ohh...so thats how Bush won Ohio...bad batteries!
Batteries went down,machines went off,votes were lost by the tens of thousands. So...they just threw up their hands and gave it to Bush. Ah well Dems...better luck next time!

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