Maybe Impeachment is really possable at this point!

[Flabbergasted]

Republican controlled congress may really start considering it. Hell maybe we can get together with some repugs in other forums and start a campaign.

[Dhampir Kampf]

1. I doubt they'd join in.

Not all Democrat's backed Clinton 110%, and they didn't want him impeached...even if they didn't totally agree with him.

[Flabbergasted]

2. Don't rain on my parade. Lol

Plus this is a different situation altogether. People are starting to feel threatened by Bush etc. Its revealing that Bush is not working anyone in the US and a total fraud.

[sam sarrha]

3. he is worth more as a Martyr than an impeached liability.. they can use

the Martyr thing for more spin on the war on terra and a reason to grab more power in HLS

and the Republicans are known to eat their own..

[Burning Water]

4. Nooooo they're not.

Golly. We have to concentrate on the 2006 elections if we want to get any traction on impeachment.

I don't say don't keep pounding the errors, but don't even mention impeachment. concentrate on the voting first. AFter (if) we win, THEN is the time to talk impeachment.

[fknobbit]

5. Your right

Without gaining control of the house impeachment is for naught, It gets us Cheney for Prez or they will just pull another Borg from the collective and it's buisness as usual. The purse strings will remain in their grasp.

[calimary]

6. Just. Don't. Stop. Visualizing.

And ESPECIALLY, Don't. Stop. Working. NEVER STOP working toward this. Ever. Eyes on the prize, guys. And as Class Warrior would say, NGU - Never Give Up.

Keep repeating this to yourself, and when possible and appropriate, repeat it to others.

Visualize IMPEACHMENT.
Then go DO something about it.

And yes, I DO think it's possible.

I do think it grows more realistic as an option every day.

We ARE approaching critical mass, if indeed we're not there now. This is just a little bit TOO much. AND it's one of those things you can sum up in a few (six) words - Selling Our Ports To The Arabs. Remember back when Brandon Tartikoff made that a signature success strategy at NBC: concepts you could sum up in few words. "Miami Vice" was pitched as "MTV Cops." THIS, TOO, involves few words.

Also, simple, easy-to-grasp-quickly words/concepts. You "get it" straight away - which is important in this short-attention-span world. This one clicks immediately AND negatively. "Ooooh, can't sell OUR STUFF to them danged Ay-rabbs!" Call it racist, call it whatever, but it's THERE, and INTENSELY FELT, across the country. Intensely ALL negative. We "get a visceral reaction" to quote some notorious Mr. Big Shot out there. It hits 'em square in the soft underbelly of "WE keep you safer than those danged Dems do." Well, they can't. If Katrina didn't convince 'em, this will.

And then, yes indeed. That's another point straight there. There is Katrina. And the illegal wiretapping. And the WMDs. And Valerie Plame and scooter libby. And cheney shooting somebody. And cheney being just an overall shitty and shifty guy - for enough reasons that he'd need his own list. And speaking of shitty and shifty guys, there's our friend Jack Abramoff. There's dear darling tom delay. And friends. That Enron trial is kicking around out there somewhere, too (there's Kenny-boy). And for some people it's still Terri Schiavo (or will be, revisited, as Michael Schiavo's book on the entire ordeal comes out - I believe this summer or early fall). Patrick Fitzgerald isn't even near calling it quits. Iraq isn't getting any better and more Muslims are growing seriously angry for more reasons. Immigration and health insurance issues remain larger and larger thorns in the paws. Osama's still on the loose. And the pundits are already comparing this latest blunder to the Harriet Miers mess - ouch! There's THAT one again. And it goes on and on and on. So just add this to the pile. As others might say: "take a number." And with every damned stinking one of these scandals and world-class shitstorms and royal botch-jobs, we close in on critical mass. Jack Cafferty on CNN earlier today (as this is written) said this himself - "this may be the straw that breaks the camel's back." If his emails were any indication, I'd say that assessment wasn't offbase. This is Bigtime.

Most beauteous of all: this hitting them where they play their strongest hand - the national security stuff - completely undercuts and makes a mockery of their claimed supremacy on national security issues. It's the one ace they held over us, where Dems couldn't compete in the perception department. That's all up-ended now. Now that "reputation" is tarnished. And besides THAT, there's the added stink from the formal White House claim that bush DIDN'T KNOW about it. Ummm... Yeah. He didn't know. Like I believe THAT. And even if it was true, what then does that say about his competence in office - what's he been doing, napping? Waiting for us to "watch this drive"? They said he was in a bubble alright, Mabel, but I just didn't believe it until now. We're seeing protests like that expressed at congress.org in letters to george, and from reports of the chatter at freeperland, plus eye/earwitness accounts from people who see souls saved among their friends and relatives who are now turned off to the GOP. This is the violation - the national security violation they cannot excuse. This is/was THEIR issue, with which they always pulled and played the trump card. And junior has now managed to shit on it, too. If any of them pull victory out of the increasingly ominous-looking jaws of defeat, it will generally be in spite of bush, not because of him.

[Pryderi]

7. I'd rather have Dems controlling congress than an impeachment

[Bryan]

8. It doesn't really seem big enough to me

calimary's elegant summation downthread notwithstanding, I'm not convinced the port story is sufficient to sustain articles of impeachment by itself (I'd love to hear a countercase, though).

IANAL, but to get a groundswell of support, any serious impeachment attempt is going to require charges that are infuriating, resonant, and unambiguously provable, not just a list a everything Bush has done since 2000. Real A+B=C-type stuff: "Nixon ordered his enemies spied on, and we have tape of him planning it." Does the port story lend itself to that?

Without idiot-proof evidence of wrongdoing, and the unshakable certitude of every elected Dem, Jeffords, Sanders, and at least thirty-eight hard-core Republican members that calling the President a criminal is key to their political survival, we don't have Bo Diddley...