The Democrats were right to not do anything about Alito!

[Cascadian]

:sarcasm:

You know something? I am having a change of heart about the DLC and the "third way". Maybe the Democratic lawmakers were right in not doing anything about Alito. I also think they were right in supporting Bush's war on Iraq. In fact, I think they should just send more troops and even consider starting up a draft. I also think that they ought to support a Patriot Act II as well. And maybe globalization is not so bad. What is good for the mulitnationals is good for American workers! I hope they sign more treaties that exploit workers more so the fat cats get more money! I also hope Bush does invade Iran and those "buttkicking" Democrats better back him up on it!

Also.....HILLARY/ZELL IN 2008! We need to lose another election! :sarcasm:

I am sorry, guys. I have been feeling so sarcastic today! I only hope I at least made some of you chuckle! ;)

[Child_Of_Isis]

1. I am not even convinced that we will have an election

in 08. If Cheney decides that he is staying, he will stay. Folks on the hill will bitch and moan, but they won't do anything.

[90-percent]

3. my wishes?

I want to see Iran get nuked!

Unprovoked aggressive nuclear war!

That's what being American is really all about.

And, in addition, it will make us all MUCH SAFER!

Thanks for the protection, George, Dick, Donald and Condi. Very much appreciated!

I hope if some of us survive we'll be back to $1.50 a gallon.

:sarcasm:

-85% jimmy

[Free the Press]

19. Get Iran first. North Korea is way ahead of them in the nuclear arms race

[jedr]

2. I'm still having a hard time with that one;

If anything is at the heart of the Democratic party it's pro choice....and when you aren't willing to fight that one to the end; well then,what the hell are you going to fight for????:wtf:

[Cascadian]

4. Reid and Schumer really gave the Dems in Ohio a "choice"!

By pushing Hackett out of the Senate race!


John

[jedr]

7. loosing faith rapidly;

You can't tell me that there isn't a anti- rove to be had somewhere. Every week Thom Hartmann brings in in the "Frame Shop" who explains how our points should be "framed" but nothing is done on a national level. I'm beginning to wonder if the Dem's in charge even want to represent our cause, or are they bought-off also? Felling very cynical tonight!!!, If they weren't willing to fight Alito, then are they willing to fight for anything?

[Cascadian]

9. Honestly I am thinking the Democrats have become a token opposition.

I am really beginning to think that. Even Howard Dean cannot do anythying about it. If this is the case then maybe it's time to either break off from the Democratic Party and form a third party or unite everybody (not just the left or progressives!) who is tired of the corporatists occupying the government and form a true united front. It is starting to look more like not just a left-wing vs centrist and right-wing thing, it is become right vs. wrong, the rich vs the poor and so on. It is about taking our country and our government back!


John

[jedr]

12. I t may well come to that;

With approx 60% of the population dissatisfied with the current administration and the the elections not too far off , it would seem that fighting these people would be the thing to do. What's to be lost?

[karynnj]

20. Look at your logic

The Democrats HAVE a very difficult time doing anything on the federal level now.
-The Republicans have the White House
-The Republicans have control of the Senate
-The Republicans have control of the House
-Conservatives dominate or will dominate the judiciary

So your answer is to split the opposition?? I see your point on it not being right or left, but the Democratic party is the best we have to fight it. The problem is to make the party take the stands needed - even when the prospect looks bleak and not trust the media to help set direction.

The same writer in the NYT who lavishly ridiculed Senator Kerry for his filibuster, 5 days later after the filibuster's defeated scolded the Democratic party for not holding together and fighting for the victory that was there to take. What is going on here?

[radio4progressives]

5. LOL!

:rofl:

[Robb]

6. Chuckle, sob uncontrollably

Whichever. ;)

[LittleClarkie]

8. Somebody tried to do something

He got shit about it too. But not here... much. He's also DLC, though he appears to be their red-headed stepchild.

[emulatorloo]

10. Some Democrats ***did indeed*** try to do something

How quickly we forget.

But I remember and I'll drink a toast to Kerry and Kennedy and those Dems who stood with them.

[Cascadian]

11. I do not blame them.

They did what they could but I blame their colleagues.


John

[msgadget]

13. Don't forget 'right to work' and end of privacy as we know it! LOL! n/t

[dolstein]

14. The Democrats VOTED against him

More Democrats voted against him than any confirmed nominee since at least Thomas.

If you want the Democrats to do more, you should work to elect more Democrats to the Senate, rather than simply purging from the party Democratic officials who don't pass a left-wing litmus test.

If the Democrats had controlled the Senate, the Alito nomination would have been DOA.

[Cascadian]

15. They voted AGAINST the filibuster!

The Democrats in the Senate could have stopped it! Hello???? They should have backed Kennedy and Kerry on this one!

And for your information, it is no longer becoming a left-wing vs right-wing thing! It is about the very survival of this country as a Democratic country and our freedoms regardless of what side you are on. The Neocons are taking over! What do you want to do about it?


John

[Cascadian]

16. KICK

[dolstein]

17. They couldn't have stopped it

If the Democrats had filibustered, the Republican majority would have abolished the filibuster. It's that simple. I understand that as a left-winger, you have an instinctive attaction to doomed strategies and noble failures (i.e., "moral" victories"). But a political party that wants to govern sometimes has to face up to reality. And the fundamental reality is that a President whose party controls the Senate is ultimately going to get his nominees confirmed. Period. If you wanted to defeat Alito, you should have worked harder to elect moderate-to-conservative Democrats in red states. If the Democrats had controlled the Senate, the Alito nomination would have died in committee.

[Free the Press]

18. Some states are less populated than neighborhoods in NY & CA!

Yet, they voted twice to confirm Alito.

Therein should have been the Democratic Party's strategy for 2006.

Take over the least populated states.

Damn well has paid tons of dividends for the Republicans over the past 25 years.

[dolstein]

21. All we need to do is convince a few hundred thousand people

to move from New York City and San Francisco to Montana and Wyoming.

[Free the Press]

22. It's the best strategy I can think of for picking up several Senate seats.

Here's the number of Democratic voters that could easily shift the balance of power to the Democrats, at least in the General Elections:

Alaska 50,000 Lisa Murkowski & Ted Stevens
Wyoming 60,000 Michael Enzi & Craig Thomas
Montana 100,000 Conrad Burns
South Dakota 80,000 John Thune
New Mexico 10,000 Pete Domenici
Idaho 230,000 Larry Craig & Mike Crepo
Nevada 25,000 John Ensign
Nebraska 260,000 Chuck Hagel


Based on the last General Election for President, which is not an accurate predictor of votes for US Senator, only 815,000 voters could flip ELEVEN US Senate seats to the Democrats.

With all of the money spent on the General election, you'd think that a few billion dollars establishing residency for 800,000 CA & NY voters would be a great investment and yield total control of the US Senate and the electoral college back to the Democrats.

I'd like to see if a state by state analysis could yield fewer numbers where states are simply more equally divided, like New Mexico.

Lastly, don't think that the red states haven't seen population growth over the past 6 years. They have, but it just hasn't been noticed.

[wisteria]

23. Funny and disheartening at the same time. n/t