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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:15 AM Original message |
Has anyone even bothered to check out Sherrod Brown's voting record? |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. I gave Mr. Hackett money for both his races |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. That disappoints me too |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 10:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
38. with his political temperament |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 01:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
53. Hackett said he had promised other potential candidates in the |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
20. If he wants to be in politics, this is child's play |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. Brown is not the issue. Would you accept Hillary as the nominee? |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. At this point with the options that I have for President right now |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Hillary sure is doing a lot of fighting for us, isn't she? |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Why should I respect the people who don't even try? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Deleted message |
LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Victim? Pul-lease |
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400Years (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 10:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
39. oh, so now Hackett is a "wuss"? Kinda reminds me of swiftboating. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
62. So by your definition, you should give up on Hackett because... |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Did he really quit the pug party? |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. He was a die-hard repuke prior and during the war... |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #66 |
83. In the 2nd's Special Election, there was a veteran who ran against the |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. And if we would accept Hillary as the nominee? |
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400Years (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. no, as in destroying a candidacy before the primaries |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. The only "destroying" was Hackett's self-destruction |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. This is what people don't get - he was a 1-issue candidate |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. So was Dean in 2004 |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. And Dean finished no better than third in any major primary |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
48. Thank God actual voters value substance over cheap rhetoric |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 01:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Exactly.... |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:48 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Well it's such a shame that Brown could end up in DC as a senator |
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400Years (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #26 |
41. That is beside the point |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. And Brown is not responsible for what Schumer and Reid did |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
68. Thank you LynneSin for your voice of reason.... |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:49 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. But I think this was a misstep by the Democratic leadership |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. I think the point was that they DID notice that Hackett had potential |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 01:42 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. I respectfully disagree |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
69. Just maybe this was all worked out in the back room.... |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:49 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Evidently some people want the Democratic equivalent of Alan Simpson |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
63. Exactly, in my eye's Hackett was a DINO... |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. But apparently it's okay to appeal to racism and xenophobia, |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Exactly so... |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:47 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. and it was okay for Clinton to appeal to homophobia |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
32. I've Felt Hackett Should Have Set His Sites A Little Lower, However |
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400Years (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
7. Nothing wrong with letting voters decide in the primary |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. You're absolutely correct |
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400Years (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. yeah, go ahead and kick Hackett in the guts |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:37 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Why, because he couldn't tell two people to go fuck themselves? |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. this is my entire point |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
16. No shit |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:46 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. But we need to have a choice so we can choose the 1-issue centrist |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. Yeah, his immigration policy definitely appeals to racism |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:26 PM Response to Reply #47 |
85. Disagree |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 10:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
87. It's pretty disturbing that the immigration policy is so easily forgiven |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
72. No shit...look at all of the DINOs in the Senate already.... |
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Aaaargh (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
24. Then you should be unhappy to see him undermined this way. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:51 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. So if a candidate who is democrat in one issue but.... |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:56 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Don't let facts get in your way.... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
33. A couple of months ago I went and checked out Browns record, |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Hackett is not running for Schmidt's seat |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 10:30 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Brown will lose because of Diebold |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 10:33 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Perhaps the Beltway Democrats should worry more about Diebold |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. You're starting to be a 1-issue person |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 11:08 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. My views about Evan Bayh are well known to all Hoosier DUers |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I'm against the war too but I have to keep that in perspective |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 11:40 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. People are always putting pressure on people about everything. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Slap a 'grassroots' label on the campaign and we automatically assume |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 01:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. ... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. I disagree at least a little bit because I like Hackett. |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I just don't like the reason people are so up in arms about this |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I agree with your post, almost in it's entirety. |
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400Years (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
40. the whole episode just shows how fundamentally undemocratic |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
54. Marvelous, reasoned, well researched post. Thanks LS |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
55. "All Politics is LOCAL"..... |
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we can do it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
59. I Fully Agree - Brown Is My Rep & A Lot More Liberal Than Hackett |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
60. Indeed. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
61. Two issues here : Brown and the Senate leadership |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Senate Leadership made pressures but did NOT stop the primaries |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. That is naive. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Oh so you're saying that Hackett was bought off them |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. No, that NOT what I'm saying. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:32 AM Response to Reply #70 |
90. What Is A "DC Party Insider", Sir? |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
64. "Holding out for a hero" mentality has struck us all |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
71. This is not about Brown (although he screwed up), it's about the |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Don't yell at me!! Yell at Hackett |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. You're the one trashing him. And I hardly call what happened "sold out & |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. It's such a shame that Ohio could be stuck with such a DINO |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Excuse me???? I have NEVER called Brown a "DINO"! I like him, & I don't |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:41 AM Response to Reply #79 |
93. And Christine Cegelis is not quitting in Illinois |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
77. Brown's "record" is not the issue here, as I see it... |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
78. LynnSin - you just don't get it do ya? This isn't about Brown's Record |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 04:36 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. You don't get it either - this is about Paul QUITTING |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:54 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Why aren't all the pro-Hackett posters pissed at him for quitting? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:37 AM Response to Reply #78 |
91. That Is Not What It Is About, Ma'am |
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RazzleDazzle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
82. Who cares? That's NOT what this is about |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:40 AM Response to Reply #82 |
92. That Is Not What It Is About, Sir |
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thatsrightimirish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
84. Should schumer have called the donors? |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
88. Nothing personal, against you or Brown, but I really couldn't care less |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:02 AM Response to Original message |
89. more of Sherrod Brown's record |
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LittleWoman (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
94. I can see a lot of people are upset about Hackett |
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