Who do you think had the best Democratic response to Bush last night?

[kentuck]

My vote goes to Cindy Sheehan. From what I have seen and read this morning, her simple message on a t-shirt got more attention than any other Democratic response. So, I would have to say her message was the best and most effective.

[peekaloo]

1. Runner up would be Lloyd Doggett of Texas.

He told the BBC that Boo$h's speech was "not so much a state of the union address but a personal state of denial".

:bounce:

[emulatorloo]

2. Dean on MSNBC, Kerry this morning -- interestingly MSNBC spinners could

come up with nothing positive except President Bush "really believes this stuff." Tucker, Pat robertson, Scarbourough all negative about SOTU.

[Blue_Tires]

3. Dennis K. had a great one

[spuddonna]

4. I did hear his...

Do you have a link or snippet? :)

[Blue_Tires]

6. here

it's not really a response per se, because it was written a couple days ago....it's still quite excellent




The Truth About the State of our Union

By Dennis J. Kucinich

On Tuesday night President Bush will stand before the Congress and the nation, to deliver his annual State of the Union address. We are sure to hear a rosy tale of an economy on the rebound, a blossoming democracy in Iraq, a terror network on the run, and a Gulf Coast region rebuilding better and stronger than ever before. As is most often the case with this Administration, the rhetoric does not match reality.

The facts are clear. Our economy is struggling and leaving tens of millions of Americans behind. According to the non-partisan National Journal, since President Bush first stood before Congress and the nation in 2001, the median income in this country has decreased, the jobless rate has jumped from 3.9% to 4.9% and the number of families living in poverty has increased from 8.7% to 10.2%. Our trade deficit has doubled. Inflation has gone up. Personal bankruptcies have gone up. Consumer debt has gone up. College tuition has gone up. And, the price of gas has gone up. All the while, this Administration has turned a $128 billion federal budget surplus into a $319 billion deficit.

Today, almost 6 million more Americans do not have any health insurance than when President Bush took office. In total, over 45.5 million Americans, or over 15% of our total population, have no health care coverage at all.

During his 2003 address, President Bush told the nation that Saddam Hussein "had biological weapons sufficient to produce over 25,000 liters of anthrax", "materials sufficient to produce more than 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin", "as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent" and "upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents".

Today, almost three years after the start of the President's war of choice, we know Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, had no connection to al-Qaeda and posed no threat to our nation. Yet, our armed forces are bogged down in the middle of civil war that our own generals say cannot be won by military force. Our presence in Iraq is counterproductive and has cost the lives of over 2,200 US troops and $250 billion.

http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/2647/1/146

[spuddonna]

9. Thanks so much...

"The truth is the state of our union is in great peril. This Administration is conducting a war with no end in Iraq, illegally spying on Americans at home, overseeing an economy that is increasingly leaving more and more Americans behind and abandoning Gulf in their hour of great need."

It was an excellent read... He's a really under-appreciated Democrat... :)

[Totally Committed]

5. Wes Clark.

He made a barn-burner of a speech that I wish more people could have seen, or at least read.

Here are some of the threads about it:

Wes Clark's "State of the Union" Speech:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2424899

Wes Clark: "America's Beacon is Fading"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2417539

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2419484
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2415614
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2405907
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2421095
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2429540
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2426161&mesg_id=2426161

It was outstanding. But, I would like to add that the Official DNC Response was a major embarrassment to this Party and all of us who are the grassroots base -- and their main support.

TC

[jarab]

7. Dean's written response was best, imo. n/t

...O...

[SaveElmer]

8. Kaine did a fine job...

Good message and the right tone.

[11 Bravo]

10. You and I are definitely in the minority here,

but I, too, thought Tim did just fine.

[Totally Committed]

11. I'm sorry...

he sucked.

He was weak, mamby-pamby, wishy-washy bullshit mumbo-jumbo bullsh*t.

The Democratic Party has got to stop shooting itself in the foot every time there is a chance to catch up to the other side in this race. Last night, Kaine was a self-inflicted wound that served none of us well at all.

TC

[underpants]

12. Yes he did

Of course there seems to be a group here that would have wanted him to stand in the middle of the Governor's mansion flinging his own feces around and screaming IMPEACHMENT LIES LIHOP IMPEACHMENT LIES MIHOP

and so forth

[JNelson6563]

13. LOL!

:rofl:

[Mark5]

14. Cindy Sheehan

oh man...yeah she got attention but is it any good for our party?

IMHO we end up looking like a party who uses a womens tragic loss for political gain, nothing good can come from associating with Sheehan. hat does not mean we should not respect her mission or the great sacrifice her son made made,but damn let the sheehan thing go.

In the world outside the DU, she is seen as a border line extrimist.

[EVDebs]

15. I look at it this way...

Bush says we'll leave Iraq when Iraqis stand up, we'll stand down. Of course the reason why the Quakers were being spied upon domestically is that we're operating on warplans made back in Nixon's era of the '70s when it was Saudi oilfields that Cheney & Co wanted to seize

Britain Says U.S. Planned to Seize Oil in '73 Crisis
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0102-01.htm

the Quakers simply point out that

If the U.S. is ultimately leaving Iraq, why is the military building 'permanent' bases?
http://www.fcnl.org/iraq/bases.htm

and when you superimpose the JudicialWatch maps of the Iraqi oilfields (map #1) at
http://www.judicialwatch.org/071703.c_.shtml

you see that those Quakers were simply telling the truth. Just ask Sen John McCain, the R's candidate for '08 should Rudi Guiliani not be nominated...

""When asked this week on CNN how long the U.S. military is likely to remain in Iraq, Senator John McCain replied "probably" 10 or 20 years. "That's not so bad," he said..."
http://spectrumz.com/z/fair_use/2004/09_04.html

Yep. All the R candidates feel this way. Go figure.

PS: Want to have some fun with this subject ? Just rent the old thriller Three Days of the Condor and ask yourself if the NYTimes would have printed the Redford character's story today. It took until 2004 for them to print it ! ROFLMAO ! Operation Mockingbird is surely still in effect.

[Ikonoklast]

19. Extremist? Says who? You??

Cindy Sheehan reminds the dumbass American people that the dead soldiers in Iraq have mothers, fathers, sons, wives, daughters. Murdered by the Idiot Son. Her message is sinking into the collective consciousness, despite what the right-wing hate machine screams about her.

And, by the way, she was EXONERATED for her actions yesterday. She did nothing illegal. Period. Looks like the Capitol Hill Police better lawyer up, pronto.


Have a nice stay here.

[JNelson6563]

22. Gee I dunno

If I lost my only son to an illegal war that the nation was lied into, my main mission in life would probably be the same as hers. Stop the needless killing and expose the liars that caused all this destruction and death.

I can understand though how some folks might have issues with Cindy's mission. She sure makes Team Bush look like the assholes that they are.

Julie

[Blue_Tires]

17. lol....take away the feces and we might be on the right track!

[MadHound]

18. True that, and more importantly

His manner and his message will resonate amongst the swing voters in red states, and that will make a huge difference this fall.

[SaveElmer]

20. Exactly right...nt

[ChipsAhoy]

16. Did Ted Kennedy BOYCOTT the speech?

I'm still trying to find out.

Thanks to anyone who knows or may have seen him on TV last night in that huge room.

[ChipsAhoy]

21. IF Kennedy DID boycott - I vote for him.

What a statement that made ..... however, I'm still not sure he actually did boycott it.