Who is the most liberal --==*MAJOR*==-- candidate?

[jpgray]

edit: KUCINICH AND SHARPTON ARE MORE LIBERAL THAN THE MAJOR CANDIDATES. INCLUDING THEM IN THIS POLL WOULD BE MEANINGLESS BECAUSE IT WOULD ONLY SHOW WHO'S IGNORANT OR PARTISAN ENOUGH NOT TO VOTE FOR EITHER. THAT IS ALL. THIS IS NOT SOME ENDORSEMENT OF THE VAPID AND IDIOTIC NYT ARTICLE.

This only includes the top 4 polling candidates.

[frustrated_lefty]

1. The poll is meaningless unless you include Kucinich.

[jpgray]

5. Kucinich is indisputably the most liberal candidate

So putting him in the polls wouldn't show much, except that morons would still vote for their own candidates.

[GreenPartyVoter]

6. You said it

[Mika]

2. Is this a NY Times poll?

Or just in support of the NYTimes?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=238715

[girl gone mad]

4. I think s/he just wants to know..

between those 4.

Of course Kucinich would win hands down were he included.

[jpgray]

7. Again, Kucinich is indisputably the most liberal candidate

I don't need a poll to tell me that.

[goodhue]

3. Kucinich

[jpgray]

8. Kucinich is indisputably the most liberal candidate

Aside from identifying the idiots who vote for their own guy no matter what, the poll would tell me nothing.

[Capn Sunshine]

9. Kerry seems more liberal than Dean--BUT HE'S NOT ELECTABLE

:nuke:

[Old and In the Way]

22. 2/2 in the race so far, leading in a head-to-head vote against

Bush nationally, and 5% write in by Republicans in NH.

Meanwhile the Dean campaign rumbles along with single lugnuts holding each wheel on.

[DuctapeFatwa]

10. I thought the reason these are majors is because they aren't "liberals"

They can all be counted on not to rock the boat and implement current US foreign policies.

They all believe they can do a better job of running the crusade and imposing America's will on its properties around the world than bush.

They all make very impressive speeches that say the same thing in slightly different ways.

They all wear a lot of gray.

[jpgray]

12. Yep. So which is the most liberal? (nt)

[DuctapeFatwa]

13. umm, which one is the most like a turnip? Sorry, it is a non-question

None of them is "liberal," that is why they are all considered "electable."

A better question would be "which one is easiest to distinguish from the others in a crowd of oil executives?"

They are essentially interchangeable. Maybe they should consider joining forces and running as a group.

[jpgray]

14. Hey, that's brilliant insight. Smart. Which one is more liberal? (nt)

[DuctapeFatwa]

31. They are all equally not liberal (nt)

[jpgray]

32. Thank you. Have a cookie. (nt)

[DuctapeFatwa]

33. Thanks. and here's a turnip for you. Which MAJOR candidate do you

think of first as you gaze at it?

[jpgray]

34. Mm... Kucinich. Obviously you endorse the NYT article

This much is clear from your exclusion of Kucinich and Sharpton. Also you must want a flame war. Clearly your evil, biased turnip polls will be the death of your reputation here at DU.

[Edge]

11. Clark????

Clark is liberal???? :eyes: I have yet to see evidence of Clark being a liberal.

Kucinich is the #1 liberal.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

16. I agree, that's ridiculous.

I could start spouting the Republican party line but it wouldn't make me into a conservative.

Actions speak louder than words.

[NV1962]

27. Look up women's choice issues, for just one example - n/t

[youngred]

35. The Man appeared on the cover of The Advocate

something no one else has done. and supports Gay marriage (which only Kucinich agrees with).

[Meritaten1]

18. Clark is a liberal

His positions are posted on his website http://www.clark04.com

[isbister]

36. Positions are promises

and I do believe that a well thought out position/promise is very good. However, for me, a candidate's positions/promises alone are not enough. I have yet to reach that level of trust with any politician that is in the middle of running for office.

Also, the hope or dream of a candidate may meet a different reality once he/she has gained the office whether they like it or not.

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[West Coast Democrat]

37. He seems quite liberal to me....

and to a majority of DUers.

[Old and In the Way]

17. How can Clark be considered? He has no recorded votes on

anything. Sorta like Dean saying he's anti-war without having to vote on it when he has real constituents to be accountable to.

[corporatewhore]

20. clark has a record of praising bush&blair in april and lobbying for axicom

dean has a record of dumping nuclear waste on a poor hispanic commmunity and siding with IBM against the environmentalists they all cath up to kerry and edwards conservative record

[Old and In the Way]

26. And Dennis can't win.

Guess I'll stick with the next President of the United States, John Kerry!

[Rhiannon12866]

30. You're forgetting that Kucinich now has Will Pitt in his corner!

BTW, love your sig line!:hi:

[girl gone mad]

38. So, Clark is a Republican..

when he's praising Bush & Blair, but not a Democrat when he's attacking Bush and the MIC?

He thinks like a liberal, and most of his positions are liberal. I wish I had Dean, Edwards or Kerry's positions to compare to his, but those 3 either failed to give their positions (Kerery, Dean) or didn't answer the majority of the questions (Edwards).

http://vote-smart.org/election_president.php?dist=bio.php

[Quixote1818]

24. Then how can Kerry be considered when he comes from Mass.

the most liberal state in the country. If he was a senator in Alabama do you think Kerry the "which way the wind blows" candidate would have the same liberal voting record? NO. Kerry has no conviction.

[Meritaten1]

25. So what?

Now someone has to be a professional politician to run for elected office?

[Old and In the Way]

29. Just getting into the spirit of things here.......obviously all of our

candidates are fatally flawed, let's have fun and shoot each other!

[Paulie]

19. Poster wanted some FLAME BAIT

No one bought it. Bye Bye!!!

[jpgray]

21. Yeah. You caught me.

Wanna argue? Hey, your mother's ugly.

[NV1962]

23. I voted Clark, but...

I take exception to 1) the all caps typing (shouting) and 2) the in effect same nullifying thrift towards Kucinich and Sharpton that I also denounced in another thread about the NYT's shameless and disgusting call to shun them in public debate - as if they are the arbiter for the Vox Populi...

This is still a democracy!

I can / could understand a rationale of a poll that seeks to find out support for the candidates that seem to have the "best" fighting chance in November, but calling supporters of the "non-major" candidates "ignorant" is simply unacceptable.

I think you should edit that out.

[jpgray]

28. Wow. The reading skills course paid off.

"whoever is ignorant enough not to vote for either"

What does "either" in this case mean?

A) Kucinich and Sharpton
B) Four candidates, breaking the rules of the English language
C) Who cares, I'm really mad and think this poll has a bias

[NV1962]

39. LOL!

D) VOTERS who happen to dislike that simplified presentation of "choice"

But hey, I'm all for expanding reading skill courses...

[Moderator]

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