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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 11:05 AM
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Can you say "corporate media?"
I discussed on a previous thread the question of media manupaluation.
I referenced William Rivers Pitt December account many media big hitters, writers and TV comentators, advising Kerry on his campagin message htt/://truthout.org/docs_03/121003A.shtml.

My question is: Is is OK for Al Franken, Jeff Greenfield, Eric Alterman, Richard Cohen and others to personally advise the Kerry campagin on how he should retool his message, and the stay unbiased when they write/comment on "who won the debate," and/or lets take a deep look one more time at the "I have a dream scream."

Is my question not valid?

I will add the following posted today on Democrats.com

"Howard Dean has joined the list of victims of U.S. corporate media consolidation. Dean share this distinction with Dennis Kucinich and the people of the formerly sovereign state of Iraq, among many others. Dean was stripped of half his popular support in the space of two weeks in January while John Kerry -- tied in the polls with Carol Moseley-Braun at seven percent just two months earlier -- rose like a genie from a bottle to become the overnight presidential frontrunner. Both candidates were shocked and disoriented by the dizzying turns of fortune, and for good reason. Neither Dean nor Kerry had done anything on their own that could have so dramatically altered the race. Corporate America decided that Dean must be savaged, and the corporate media sector made it happen."
http://www.blackcommentator.com/75/75_cover_dean_media.html

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 11:12 AM
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1. Hand-picked.
It's pretty obvious. Even his competition failed to challenge him in the last debate. Surprising, since they had no compunction about challenging the frontrunner in previous debates. The fix is in.
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Virgil Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 11:46 AM
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We have plutocratic rule
The plutocraacy controls the media. This is the media that had 69% of the American people believe that Iraq was involved with 9/11 according to the Washington Post Poll in September.

This is the media that beat the drums of war to make Americans be one of only three people in the world to support the war. The other two were Kuwait and Israel.

This is the media that does not mention depleted uranium. This is the media that always looks inward and never reports the world news at night. This is the media of the plutocracy. It is run by the thought herders. Now the thought herders are promoting the plutocratic candidate as Messiah for delivery from Bush and PNAC, except they cannot talk about PNAC.

Your thoughts are now being herded to believe Kerry is wonderful. Look at his voting record on the budget cuts, and the Pill Bill, and IWR, and the Trade Authority to the President. Look at the legislation that mandated new voting machines with federal funding support that did not have enough since to print a receipt when Wal-Mart gives a receipt for a piece of gum. Look at the media that does not report this. Look at the candidates that do not denounce the media that does not report this. Look at why that once the foolishness was Interneted into prominence, the horror was not remedied with legislation.

Kerry is money's man. Do not listen to the media. They are the thought herder's and you do not need their programming. Look at the voting record of Kerry and where did he oppose Bush. And I am telling you that Kerry is a drug warrior. He does not even understand that the American definition of freedom does not mean that because you have enough sense to choose cannabis over alcohol, you should be in jail. What did Kerry do to stop your childrem from paying for the ganjaganda paid for by debt that will demonize cannabis through its media mouthpiece as people get drunk and watch a mindless game of basketball and marvel at the new beer ads.

Kerry is for locking you up if you consume cannabis and taking away your property and your freedom if you grow a plant. And some of the thought herders that come on here to catch the strays try to say Kerry is not a drug warrior. The Senate is filled with drug warriors including Lieberman and Edwards.

Kerry did not demand a paper trail in voting machines and that is litmus test enough. The media does not cover it. Kerry does not now demand remedy. Kerry is Money's man and I am a lone voice just asking you to think. They say have a beer and watch the game while we program you. Think about it.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 11:46 AM
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2. fixed link
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 11:51 AM
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3. Kerry won in Iowa among Internet users, over Dean
Those internet users probably got a healthy dose of filtered TV news and the vast resources that the internet gave them. They voted for Kerry. Whatever they saw on ABC or Fox, they could look up on other websites. Kerry won because the people wanted him.
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Virgil Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:18 PM
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5. The 69% that thought Iraq was involved in 9/11...
could also get on the Internet. Somehow fiction became fact. The media shot Dean over a rally cry. The message was immediate that he had gone mad. It hit DU as it was going on. It was total misrepresentation. The guy came alive to say onward and the media shot him.

There are 5 major media conglomerates and hundreds of channels. How many people know what PNAC is or that we even left a desert full of depleted uranium in Iraq. Does anyone know how long it will stay radioactive? I heard two and half billion years. And then the media lets Bush get away with saying he wanted to free Iraq from our CIA employee.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:09 PM
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4. Unfortunately Dean supporters need to look inside to
see why their campaigns failed in Iowa and NH.

I don't even need to look inside the link when I see a statement such as "Neither Dean or Kerry had done anything on their own that could have so dramatically altered the race." It ignores what was happening on the ground, the battle between Gephardt and Dean, negative campaigning, Dean's dismissive remark about the Iowa caucuses, the irritation with the orange-hatters, Kerry's endorsement by the Governor's wife, his reunion with his fellow vet, the lousy commercials Dean supporters say that he ran etc.

The Dean campaign itself knows that mistakes were made, otherwise why demote Trippi?

I'm not dismissing the press as a factor, I just don't think they are all plotting to take Dean out or force Kerry to the top. It IS a story that a campaign declared dead by the press was rising in the polls. Just like it was a story when Dean was getting all the endorsements and his nomination was assumed inevitable.

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