It's time for Gore to start a new party...I'm not kidding...

[Sperk]

the Dems are NOT going to save us from the dictator...they're barely fighting.

If Gore stepped up, I truly believe millions would follow and many of the "real" democrats in Congress would switch over. It will be the "People" who end the American Tyranny we are living under, but we need a leader.

Imagine the DINO's in Congress standing alone, without a constituency.

[King Coal]

1. I was just thinking the same thing when I saw your post.

[LSparkle]

2. Where do I sign up?

Gore knows his history (look at his cousin Gore Vidal), and I think he loves this country. Unlike some, he can see where this is going and that's what has fueled his more fiery speeches in the past few years. I'd love to see him spearhead a new party -- Can we be an arm of the Canadian "New Democratic Party"?

[colonel odis]

3. count me in

[Burried News]

4. If you build it they will come ...

[Todd B]

5. It's time for the Republicans and Democrats

.. to quit craving power and make room for third parties to be elected to high offices (and participate in debates) so we can actually have *real* checks, balances, and opposition! I'd love for another party to come up and govern for the *people* instead of getting caught up in this petty partisan bickering.

Unfortunately, no real change will ever happen with the American style of "democracy", however...

[leftstreet]

6. He could just run as an Independent.

Give the Exec branch some distance from the one-two punch party we've got now.

[theplutsnw]

7. At this point I am with you 100%

If all the Dems in DC do not see the importance of fighting this nomination then they do not have my support. They should not have to hear from us over and over again to know what is right from wrong. If they knew anything about world history, they would know the Nazi's took over using the courts. With this Unitary Executive BS, there is no excuse for not fighting. I want a 3rd party NOW, starting with Gore as the 08 presidential candidate. How about Al Gore, Progressive party candidate!

[Sperk]

10. YEAH! Enough of calling our Reps and BEGGING them to uphold the

constitution. Jesus, Rove must have some pretty good snap shots, is all I can say.

GO AL!

"I'm the number one fan of the man from Tennesseeeeeeee."
:loveya:

[DoYouEverWonder]

17. It's time to Turn Our Backs

on all of them.

If Gore goes, I would follow.

[wyldwolf]

8. No, and no.

He wouldn't do it and your your inference of "real" Democrats is insulting.

You don't know Gore. He isn't the "progressive" the left makes him out to be.

[Sperk]

11. No, he just looks so damn progressive next to all of the "regressives"

good enough for me.

[wyldwolf]

16. Let's see... one issue. Just one.

He doesn't support the Iraq war. So what happens when the war finally ends?

You have, in Gore, a politician who supported faith-based initiatives, headed up the Clinton administration's Welfare Reform, only became pro-choice for political expediency, etc., etc.,

Gore is NOT anti-war. He backed the Kosovo war, thought the US needed to maintain a presence in the Balkans, and is a big proponent of "liberal internationalism" or nation building.

As Vice President, he was a strong and early proponent of military action in Bosnia. In Congress he supported intervention in the Persian Gulf and Grenada and, in some instances, aid to the Nicaraguan contras.

There is no indication that his beliefs in these areas have changed.

I happen to like Al Gore but his isn't his progressive saviour people on DU make him out to be.

[Sperk]

12. He wouldn't do it and your your inference of "real" Democrats is insulting

sorry, I meant "real" Americans...that leaves out the entire Repug party.

[kentuck]

9. I think Gore is looking at this nomination the same way most of us are...

...and he may be thinking just that... I would not be surprised.

[longship]

13. Exactly what the Repugs want -- Divide and Conquer!!

Splitting the party is not a good idea.

We can change the party. Become a precinct committee person and make a difference.
That's how Pat Robertson and Co. did it in the 1970-1980's.

[William769]

14. Please know the DU rules.

"You are not permitted to use this message board to work for the defeat of the Democratic Party nominee for any political office. If you wish to work for the defeat of any Democratic candidate in any General Election, then you are welcome to use someone else's bandwidth on some other website."

[Sperk]

15. What if Gore called it the Democratic Underground Party?

seriously

[Sperk]

18. As in "same principles" but willing to fight for them. No fear.

n/t

[DoYouEverWonder]

19. Why don't we?

Why don't we just start our own damn party?

[guidod]

28. We use to say the same thing

in the 60's and 70's. It's not going to happen, and shouldn't. We have our own party and it's called the democratic party. Remember, the dems have very little power. They have the White House, the Senate and the House. Right now it feels like we're the little guy being attacked by the bully. We have to stay focused, not run away, and be patient because we can make it change. And we will make it change.

[William769]

20. I don't make the rules I just report them

You would have to ask the Admins that one. But I think we both alredy know the answer to that question.

[mmonk]

21. I was thinking that maybe

its time for a split. Both sides would have enough numbers to meet ballot requirements and some of us could get representation in government this way.

[Gloria]

22. There are a few who are "untarnished" ..Gore, Clark, maybe Warner

in the sense that they are not sitting in the cesspool of the DC Democrats. Gore and Clark are definitely willing to talk common sense truth, and are not myopic.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

23. I agree with the sentiment of your idea, but...

the electoral college, a massive historical blunder by the founding fathers, determines that only two parties can realistically participate to win in almost every case.

Your sentiment is justified and I share it. I think the Democrats who supported the war in a craven fashion (by agreeing to a vote before the 2002 election) do not deserve consideration for president in 2008. Also the apparent failure to filibuster over Alito is disgusting and a violation of their oath of office, IMO.

Still, let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. Dems still vote consistently MUCH better on the environment, minority rights, etc., than the GOP. We need renewal, not an impractical replacement. Dean is DNC chair. Small contributions are becoming a larger factor in Dem fundraising. Grassroots activism and consciousness is on the rise in our party.

That is why Al Gore will be the Democratic nominee in 2008. I close with a quote from Gore himself:

"Political will is a renewable resource."

[kma3346]

24. I am SOOOO ready for a true Democratic party

Aside from a few patriotic Democrats in the Senate and Congress, we have a bunch of gutless wonders who are representing us. I am so angry that we have a government that is worse than useless--it's malevolent and the only thing it cares about is money and power, and imposing its will on the people. This is not the government that our forefathers fought so hard for. I feel helpless and hopeless that it will ever change.

I would love it if we had a party that actually wanted to serve the people and make the United States a better place. We need a leader who will tell the truth with passion, intelligence, and integrity. I feel that Al Gore could be the one to pull this together--perhaps with the help of some other *true" Democrats like Barbara Boxer, John Conyers, Louise Slaughter, and others.

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

[guidod]

25. Here's some help, be my guest.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_i

[guidod]

26. Woops, sorry abut that...

...just go to William 769 thread and you'll find out how to leave the party. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

[Sperk]

29. That's my point....there's no where to go to.

I'd be all for Gore being the Democratic candidate. I'd work my butt of for him, will the DLC allow it?

[guidod]

30. Why are you bringing

the DLC into the mix?

[OneBlueSky]

27. if Gore decided to run, he wouldn't have to do it in a new party . . .

he could run as a Democrat, and likely win the nomination . . . but to preserve his freedom to speak the truth, he'd have to reject any and all corporate contributions and rely exclusively on the people to support his campaign . . . if he plays by the old rules, nothing will change . . .

[AlGore-08.com]

31. In 2000, Gore rejected PAC money and accepted campaign spending limits

He had a very interesting plan for full public funding of campaigns, too:

http://www.algore.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=89&Itemid=84

Speech Transcript: Speech On Political And Campaign Reform at Marquette University, WI
March 27, 2000
by Al Gore

(snip)

So I propose the creation of a non-partisan Democracy Endowment-to follow up on the urgent reform of our campaign finance laws by McCain-Feingold with a revolutionary change to further safeguard our self-government in the 21st Century.

The Democracy Endowment will raise more than $7 billion over seven years, and then, with the interest and the returns on investment, finance Senate and House general election campaigns-with no other contributions allowed to candidates who accept the funding.

Let me be clear: this is a non-partisan endowment for our common democracy. You can't give to any one party; you can't give to any one candidate. Every qualified candidate will have access to these funds according to a formula that is based on the district or state in which they are running. The views of the donor will have absolutely no influence on the views of the recipient. In this way, we will break the connection between the giving of money and the gaining of influence in these election contests.

To raise the funds for the Endowment, there will be a 100 percent tax deduction for any individual or corporation that contributes-on a first-come, first-serve basis-until the Endowment is filled. And as soon as it is filled, the tax deduction will sunset.

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