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Pierre Trudeau Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:47 PM
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A Canadian wonders: COULD Gore become Prez??
From my vantage point up north, I have been very impressed with Al Gore's activities and particularly this latest speech of his which tied together the sins of this administration in such a cogent fashion. Since the 2000 debacle, I had simply assumed that Gore had no political future and that theories that he might actually be persuaded to run in 2008 should be dismissed as naive and fantastical.

Then I started to think about Richard Nixon. No, I don't mean to insult Mr. Gore by the comparison, but in terms of historical context, there are some intriguing parallels: both Gore and Nixon served as Vice-President under a popular two-term President. Both of them ran for president at the end of Eisenhower's and Clinton's terms. Both of them lost (I know, Gore won the vote but he's certainly not the one in the White House is he?). After JFK won in 1960, it looked like we "wouldn't have Dick Nixon to kick around any more". And yet, eight years later, he resurfaced from political oblivion, got nominated as the Republican candidate, and decisively won the presidential election. The ugliness that followed is not relevant to the point I'm making here, which is that it's not unprecedented for a failed presidential candidate to try again and succeed. Rare, but it does happen.

Still, it does seem unlikely that the Democratic Party would consider nominating someone who seemingly "failed" already. Yet who among the current crop of candidates cuts a better figure as preidential material than Al Gore? I guess he might be perceived as "too liberal" by much of the American people, although all things considered, he's not far out at all, he's in fact beyond the spectrum and comes across as a modern JFK Democrat, talking about various "new frontiers" (the environment, internet, green technology etc.).

It's funny, I never used to think much of Al Gore. I may have been a bit prejudiced because as a young punk rocker, I was unimpressed with his wife Tipper's campaign against "obscenity" in pop music with the "Parent's Music Resource Center". If anyone remembers Jello Biafra, he got off some pretty good rants against her, as did the late Frank Zappa. At the time, I had no idea who Al Gore was, other than the senator husband of this mad lady with the uproarious name "Tipper Gore". Thinking back, I don't recall Al ever getting very involved in the inanity, it was mostly Tipper's circus.

Watching the 2000 primaries, I wasn't rooting for Gore. In the early days, I was hoping to see a McCain vs. Bradley race. Sadly, that's not the way things went. I lost interest once it became a Bush vs. Gore contest; it was one very smart but boring guy versus one amicable but retarded guy, or at least that's how it looked back then... nobody fully realized yet just how bad Bush would be. Obviously, if I'd been an American I would have voted for Gore, but without much enthusiasm ("this guy's no Kennedy" I would have thought). In retrospect, compared to the cadaverous Kerry, Al was a sparkling fountain of charisma.

Nowadays, he's loosened up considerably, kept busy on many fronts, and is indisputably one of the most articulate voices on the progressive side. Considering the mounting evidence of his coolness (cameos on Futurama, Sat. Night Live, his book, the documentary about him, and his amazing speeches, each better than the last), if I were a US citizen I wouldn't hesitate now to elect him president were I offered the choice.

But does anyone here truly believe such a thing is possible? Or likely??

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AverageJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:52 PM
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1. I don't know if it could happen
but if Gore threw his hat into the ring, he'd be my man. No question.
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:53 PM
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2. He IS our President
Here at DU we all sent him letters asking him to run. His speech WAS amazing, and no talk from the Dems about Gore's speech! They make me sick!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:54 PM
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4. Yep! He's ours!
Hands off!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:53 PM
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3. Anything is possible. Al Gore's last speech won my heart.
If Al would have a platform for the people instead of big corporations, he could pull it off.
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:56 PM
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5. Nice post, and yes I think it can happen. n/t
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:56 PM
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6. I think it's very possible
Remember, he actually got more votes than Bush did in 2000. And he was a little milquetoast then, he's a real firebrand now. He might even pick up some of the Nader voters he lost in 2000. Lots of people feel he's our rightful president. Not saying that he should run on the sympathy vote, but Americans love a come-back.

Of course I may just be wishful thinking. I love Gore all the more since he's started speaking his mind. He's a true American patriot and I'll always be proud to have supported him.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:01 PM
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7. Gore speaks for me
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 10:02 PM by MissWaverly
First, I greatly admire Gore and believe that Gore received more votes than Bush in the
2000 election. Gore has 24 years of experience in the Senate (16 as an elected official
with 8 as VP), I believe that he strongly believes that the president is not all powerful
but exists in the legal framework of the 3 branches of government. He is a powerful speaker
and I believe that he is the type of person that believes in a bipartisian approach to
government. The problem is the current culture of corruption, the takeover of our congress
by special interests and widespread election fraud by the Republican party. There are
many lawsuits trying to approach the problem and bring back a centrist approach to
governing our country. Gore would be my first choice for president, I believe he is
still my president as the elected but not inaugurated president in 2000. The administration of George Bush has been riddled with corruption, cronyism and incompetency but it is well oiled by corporate monopolies (the pun is intentional.) Many of us continually donate to the Democratic Party which we believe
is the only thing holding us back from a total collapse of our constitutional framework
of government.
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Redroach Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:02 PM
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8. Who knows?
His speech the other day was excellent. But why does he only take these Nazis on once a year instead of once a week? God knows these bastards are giving us all the reasons for a major sea change in this nation. Pick a scandal,any scandal, and the MSM basically dwells on the Republican spin as to how to cover it.

:wtf:
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Call me Deacon Blues Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:04 PM
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9. Damn right it's possible
But it will only happen if Gore continues to speak truth to power. But it's a zen thing, you understand . . . as long as he doesn't try to win the nomination, he can win the nomination -- and the election. The key is that he has to throw conventional wisdom to the winds and be his own man. This country is crying, begging for real leadership, and they aren't going to get it from the rest of the usual suspects. Even the best of them have their special interest buddies, pander to their particular constituencies. The worst of them? The two Joes, Biden & Liebermann. (Shudder) Gore needs to forget the nomination and go after the twin enemies of these United States -- the Bush administration and their excreble companions in crime, the mainstream media. He (and we) need to bring them both down. Only by leading, and ignoring the siren song of the presidency can he become president.


Impeach the Media!
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:14 PM
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10. Very possible !
Look up the political careers of Nixon and Regan :)

Carter and Clinton too.

Why I haven't ruled out Edwards either :party:

Also, my new dark horses, Warner and Feingold :hi:

But my opinion is only a blip on the DU-dar !
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:14 PM
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11. Yes. I agree with each and everyone of the posts in this string.
Gore has what it takes to lead us out of this terrible mess.
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sduncang Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:18 PM
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12. Possible, but not likely...
although I like him and wouldn't mind seeing him run again. He'd get my vote, and support. Way to soon to speculate, buy my guess is Hillary Clinton has the nomination, if she wants it; and, of course, she does. But, that's just my guess.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:24 PM
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13. Electing him isn't what Gore wants us to do right now.
I don't believe he wants us to spin our wheels trying to get him elected.
Things are too serious to be sidetracked by the "pendulum".
He outlined very specific things that we need to be pushing for ASAP.

And yes, I'd vote for him in a twinkling. :)
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 01:59 AM
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14. Gore will be a great speechmaker for a Dem nominee who wants to win.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:04 AM
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15. While I voted for Nader in 2000...
(Go ahead, kick me! My state went blue anyway, as I knew it would or I wouldn't have voted Green)

....I'd vote for Gore in 2008 in a heartbeat, in both the primary and general elections.

:shrug:




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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:37 AM
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17. Same
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leanin_green Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:53 AM
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16. Not to toot my own horn, but. . .
I've been saying much the same thing all year here. I've pointed out the same paralells that you mentioned. It's karmic, really. It's debatable, but one could say that JFK stole the '60 election. It's not out of the realm of possibility, what with all of Daddy's underworld connections at the time. Things do smack of a reoccurence of the same scenarios as was present in '68, don't they? I wouldn't be surprised if it happened just as we have both said.
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:53 AM
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18. Should Gore have Been prez is a FAR better title.
Because we all know he WAS!

Thanks SCOTUS!
Fuck Alito!
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