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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:46 PM Original message |
Conundrum: FISA allows 15 days- not 72 hrs, in time of war |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is just more INCORRECT REPUBLICAN SPIN!!! |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 10:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. The 1st 15 days of war-- I dont think so-- there is no cite for that |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 10:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. WRONG! THERE IS A CITE....HERE'S YOUR CITE... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. HMmm |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:27 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Oh come on now- give me a break..it is a clear simple sentence. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Actually |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. NO IT DOESN'T !!! |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:46 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. again---NOw back to the topic at hand-- |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:51 AM Original message |
There IS NO CONUNDRUM! |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
32. One question |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. No because it never existed. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. But doesnt bush "think" he has the power? |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Most tyrants do.. but it doesn't matter what they think... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. right |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. There is no conundrum, not even in Bush's pea sized brain.. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. And I TRULY DOUBT you have any knowledge of the law or the Constitution |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. --- sure buddy |
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Thorandmjolnir (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:46 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Where does it say anything about replacing the 72 Hours |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. let me try rephrasing this |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:54 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. It doesn't MATTER WHAT YOU WANT..IT MATTERS WHAT THE LAW SAYS! |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:59 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. cant answer a question? |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. You are right YOU STILL CAN'T ANSWER A QUESTION. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. section 1811 is the exception to the 72 hr time frame |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #43 |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:44 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. hmm - I'm not sure was that an insult? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. NO IT DOESN'T. |
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Thorandmjolnir (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. For someone working in the legal field |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:52 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. AMEN!!!! |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. SO only the 1st 15 days of a war we can eavesdrop? |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. The answer is YES. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
54. you 2 buddies really are fun-- you make me laff |
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eve_was_framed (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
2. Viet Nam was a police action and my understanding is that once the |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. In any case it was never legally a war... |
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eve_was_framed (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. good point and I agree whole heartedly with you, |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 10:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. the point of my post- and thusly this thread is |
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Thorandmjolnir (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
20. The 15 day period is not something the president can "use" |
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eve_was_framed (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
76. I read it and indeed agreed with what it says...I was just saying I never |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 10:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. right-- now lets take this a step further |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Read the actual LAW not George Bush's lips... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:41 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. SO what about the conundrum? |
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Thorandmjolnir (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. What conundrum are you talking about? |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. THERE IS NO CONUNDRUM.. THIS IS A POINTLESS ARGUMENT.. |
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Thorandmjolnir (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I agree with you |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:58 AM Response to Reply #24 |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. it is not the 1st 15 days of a war |
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Thorandmjolnir (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Nice meeting you |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. ahh good- a sense of humor, but never the less I feel insulted |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. If he is going to surf the web he needs to visit this site first... |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. ACTUALLY IT IS... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
59. Im going to break it down and simplify things for you all |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. You are NOT citing section 1811... that's not what it says... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
86. I most certainly did cite & quote section 1811 |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. No you misquoted it. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
58. You Are Correct, Mr. Fox |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Wrong... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 03:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. That Is How It Reads To Me, Sir |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Read the ACTUAL law not George Bush's lips... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Eats, Shoots, And Leaves, Sir |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:27 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Punctuation and Grammar... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:30 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. My Comments, Sir |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:31 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Sorry but your understanding is simply incorrect. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. LOL- please |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. You are simply wrong... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Funny stuff-- do you really beleive that? just curious? |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Yes ACTUALLY I DID.. I was born in 1966. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:52 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. 1966- alive but only hhmm -- 6 yrs old when it happened |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Try 8 years old... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:01 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. just 'cause your young doesnt make you right--- LOL |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:08 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Better grey hair than no hair... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:15 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. sure buddy, its ok, I understand |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
47. Section 1811 does not apply |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Walt I am not contending that |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG.... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. hmm U R not WALT |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. interesting Doug has disabled his/her profile |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I dunno dude |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Anyway- back to what I was hoping to talk about |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. It's ALL MOOT... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. hello wake up DOUG |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. The good is that we are protecting our LIBERTY... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:23 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. actaully the FISA court has modified or rejected 179 applications |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Well then that's still 98.5%+ |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
63. Last I heard, they got no warrant |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:45 PM Response to Reply #63 |
79. exactly -- even if-- thats a big IF |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. now that things have calmed down |
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