Rasmussen Reports: "50% approve of the way Bush is performing"

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

President Bush Job Approval

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

Friday December 23, 2005--Fifty percent (50%) of American adults approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as President. That's up six points since the President's speech on Sunday night.

It's also the first time since July that the President's Job Approval has reached the 50% mark. He earns approval from 81% of Republicans, 23% of Democrats, and 42% of those not affiliated with either major political party.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

WHO makes this shit UP?

:grr:

[Borgnine]

The fuck?

So Bush just jumped from the mid-to-high 30s to 50 percent for no particular reason?

[katejones]

1. Do you think it is made up?

I wonder why his poll #s are up.

[rosesaylavee]

4. Yes, they made it up. IMO.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

5. Somebody cooked the books somewhere on this one...

...he went from the high 30s / low 40s to 50% as the result of the New York Times spy story?

I don't believe it for a minute.

[AntiCoup2K4]

31. Whore media can manufacture whatever numbers they want

Probably a "Christmas present" for their beloved Chimp.

[zann725]

53. Rasmussen polls lean so far Right....if they were a Christmas tree...

you'd HEAR them falling in the forest of "lies" they perpetuate.

50%...my a@!s!! Shrub's BEEN in the 30% since BEFORE the Elections, I FIRMLY believe. (And NOT the Iraqi elections.)

[acmavm]

2. Who were they talking to? I'm surprised that have of the people they asked

had the intellect to respond.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

3. 23% Of Democrats?

Where are these Dems that support him?

[Doctor_J]

13. THat is what I want to know

I don't know any Dems who approve.

[AntiCoup2K4]

32. The DLC office?

And possibly Zell Miller's house.

[depakid]

6. Bullshit

15% haven't "changed their minds" in the past month.

But then again- it's Rasmussen- and as any statistician will tell you, these kinds of "polls" are purposefully designed to influence public opinion, not to reflect it.

[sandrakae]

7. Rasmussen is a Die hard Republican. He can't be objective.

He is also known for Push Polling.

The Bottom line is, it is a lie.

[tritsofme]

45. When has he been known for push polling?

Scott Rasmussen is a Republican, John Zogby is a Democrat, I don't think it compromises their polls.

Rasmussen did an incredible job polling in 2004, and I give him a lot of credibility for that reason.

In 2006, ignore his polls at your own peril.

[Lost-in-FL]

8. Yes it will go up...

Liberals won't participate cause they know he's (Bush) fried and most conservatives would not vote cause they are pissed and embarrased. Only O'Reilly, Limpballs and Ann Cunter followers will vote on the poll. There you have it...

[ugarte]

9. Iraqi elections always gave Bush a bump...but only temporarily

as the results become clear and civil war becomes more a likelihood than ever.

I don't see anything else on the horizon that can give him a lift. His numbers can only sink again.

[Bonhomme Richard]

10. I think a lot of people have a dog in this hunt.

I don't understand why yet but it seems to me that there are a lot of people and organizations that have a lot to lose if bush goes down and they are going to do whatever it takes to keep cheney in power.
Myself, I thgink the poll is complete bullshit. I heard a wingnut/born again I know this week say it's time for bush to go.

[daleanime]

14. Got that right...

Money put Bush in office, and money will do every thing it can to keep him there.

[jimshoes]

11. Right.... when 85%

of the people responding to this MSNBC poll think he should be impeached, what changed their minds?

This poll from a few days ago.

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 135953 responses
Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
85%
No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
5%
No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%
I don't know.
2%

ed:content

[acmejack]

12. My ass!

Not a chance, no way, im-fuckin-possible! Rasmussen has about as much credibility as *.

[spooky3]

15. They over-sampled Rethugs

Weighting those %s who approve by the % Rethug, Dem and no party in the general population would result in far fewer than 50% approval, since Republicans are only about 31% of the general population.

[peaches2003]

16. Nothing wrong with the poll

Sorry, but there is nothing at all wrong with this poll. You are fooling yourselves. All the polls are showing him up to 45-50%. What's wrong is with the American public. The majority love the tough-guy cowboy routine; I'll protect the public from the evildoers and never back down approach. Bush knows how to play his public like a violin- just be tough and whenever he gets off his ass and does his act his people love it. They don't give a shit that he is lying and is total BS. They just want the tough guy they want to believe they elected.

The country is getting what it deserves. You think for a minute they won't vote again for someone who talks to them like Bush does. Of course they will.

[pocket]

17. bullshit. there is foul play here

data is being manipulated.

[peaches2003]

18. What about other polls?

So you are going to say all the polls are manipulated? Can't remember which, but there were others up to 47% approval. Just because we see through **** and realize he is a madman who is destroying this country and has shredded the B of R, the ones who love him and voted for him can't admit even to themselves they were wrong and we were right. So he acts tough and they are back in the fold.

Over and over we fool ourselves that this is it, we've got him now. And then we can't understand what happens when he's back on top. If we are going to say these polls are manipulated, then you have to say the same thing when he drops down. Can't have it both ways. If we are going to continually lose to this madman we have to understand why.

[pocket]

20. if they can steal an election

then a few polls should be easy enough

[okieinpain]

23. i agree

[Viva_La_Revolution]

46. Polls conflict on Bush's approval

That's the actual headline...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/?feed=TopNews&article=UPI-1-20051220-07294500-bc-us-bushpoll.xml

I don't put trust in many of the polls, especially Rasmussen.
I put my trust in the conversations I have with regular people everyday. Granted I live in the great Liberal North West, but my internal poll says * is sinking, and is very nearly sunk.
:)

[daleanime]

19. I hate to say your right...

but you do have a good point. However lets not be too simplest about it. Most of Bush's sus port(personnel experience) comes from people who don't want to brother by politics. They take whats given to them with out question, as long as they find it easy to swallow.
I've started many discussions with any of his followers I can corner, it always forms the same pattern.
1. They try to dis smith with a label. (I sure you all know the ones I mean.)
2. When that fails it's time for volume-after all if you shout loud enough you hear nothing(as any kid can tell you.)
3. Then if I'm patient and stay focused. They shut down. This takes about 4 or 5 minutes. As long as some commercial breaks, that as long as they want to deal with politics.
No wonder we get bad results.

[spooky3]

27. factually incorrect

Go to this site and click on the "approval" link. You'll see that with the exception of one outlier (ABC/WaPo), the other polls are clustered closer to 40%.

http://www.pollkatz.homestead.com/

on edit: "Pollkatz" does not track Rasmussen because of copyright issues.

Go also to mediamatters.org and find the story about how CNN and Fox reporters ignored their own polls showing that Bush's approval has stayed the same or declined, to tout the one poll (ABC/WaPo) that suggested Bush's approval was increasing.

I do agree with you though that there are far too many people being played like violins, by Bush with the complicity of his media enablers. Republicans own the media in this country and the lowly journalists know on what side their bread is buttered.

[AX10]

54. Rassmusen is also a daily tracking poll.

The results tend to be highly inaccurate as condititions change day to day.

[WCGreen]

40. It is a rolling poll so that the numbers reflect a lot of

day to day stuff...

Also, there is a holiday bump... People in a good mood...

And the talking tough seems to have energized his base again, recaptured some of the disenchanted right....

The thing to note on that particular survey is that the people who strongly disapprove of push has been hovering over 35% for months now and those who strongly approve has been in the low to mid 20% range....

[ProSense]

21. These results seem more realistic IMO

Interviews conducted 12/9/05 through 12/11/05, after Bush 11/30 speech to Naval Academy, after Bush 12/7 speech to Council on Foreign Relations, but before Bush 12/12 address to Philadelphia World Affairs Council, before Bush 12/14 address to Woodrow Wilson Center for Scholars, before 12/15 Iraqi elections, before Bush 12/17 "live" radio address, before Bush 12/18 Prime-Time Oval Office address, and before Bush 12/19 morning press conference.

(also before spying revelation)

Weighted Average
Approve 40%
Disapprove 57%


('Weighted Average' means each state is weighted proportionally to its share of USA population. For example, California, the most populated state, is given 71 times the weight of WY the least populated state, in a weighted avg.)


Unweighted Average
Approve 42%
Disapprove 55%

('Unweighted Average' means each state is given equal weight; population density is not taken into account).


Also:

20 states disapproval at less than 40%
8 states disapproval under 35%

And:
only 7 states 50% or higher

600 adults age 18+ in each of the 50 states were interviewed by SurveyUSA 12/9/05 to 12/11/05.


http://www.surveyusa.com/50State2005/50StatePOTUS1205ByApproval.htm



With the plus or minus 4% allowance, the reality is probably closer to a 38% approval.

[AX10]

55. Thanks. Bush's approval is 40-42 and dissapproval is 57-58.

[terrya]

22. I agree with you. This is made-up bullshit.

Come on...after the disclosure of domestic spying, his approval rate goes UP??!!??

BULLSHIT.

[peaches2003]

26. Of Course

Of course his poll #s went up! Because he is protecting his little toadies! He's tough and he will stop those evildoers no matter what he has to do. These are the people who openly say they don't care if he spies on them because they 'have nothing to hide', but he will get the terra-ists and anything he has to do if fine with them. Bill of Rights? Who cares if their hero is making them safe. The Dems are then portrayed as soft on the terra-ists. That's why Bush admitted the spying immediately. He KNOWS his people and knows they would love him spying, even if it is eavesdropping on them. This is why the Dems continue to lose- Bush portrays them as weak and he is tough. All this shows up in the polls when he pulls his tough guy act.

[Dinger]

59. Exactly. Total And Complete Bullshit

Fuck 'em - LIARS!!!!!

[nevergiveup]

24. When he starts talking about

saving us from the terrorists his numbers go up. Rove is a pro at feeding off of people's fears. This is why Chimpy was re-elected....nothing has really changed.

[Neil Lisst]

25. Rasmussen is a complete PUB toadie.

When he wants to get a more favorable outcome for Bush, he polls at times that PUBS are home and Dems aren't. That skews his numbers badly. He's a fraud.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

28. And that's why 85% want to see impeachment hearings start?

Hahahahahaha. As we say in the Florida Everglades, "Now THAT is a CROC!"
:rofl:

[Skittles]

29. I don't believe it

50% of Americans are not benefitting at all from the incompetence of bush inc - it is more like 1%- even accounting for freeper dipshits brainwashed by crap like FOX News - there is simply no way these reports are true

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[AntiCoup2K4]

33. Nice to hear a conservative admit these polls are bullshit.

So, maybe you have some insight as to what the Hell is wrong with your fellow conservatives, believing anything the Chimp tells them?

Oh, and welcome to DU!

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[tsuki]

35. This might not be the correct place for you. Too much truth.

The occupation is not going to end favorably. They never do. We have asked all that we can of our military.

The growing Constitutional crisis is beyond the corporate media to spin. He violated his Presidential Oath of Office as written in the Constitution. That is a High Crime. It will become a larger story in the minds of many Americans over the next 11 months as they begin to wonder just who was being taped, and if they had anything to do with terra (sic).

Loss of privacy is a fear that has been instilled by the Republicans over the last twenty years. This one is going to bite them in the ass.

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[tsuki]

39. Okay.

#1 Occupational Forces have a very difficult road as evidenced by history. They do not fair well against an insurgency. I don't understand why people still call it a war. It is an occupation with a very active insurgency.

#2 The Presidential Oath of Office

Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Fourth Amendment of the Constitution:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Bush confessed on TeeVee that he violated the Fourth Amendment. Your fear does not trump my loss of Constitutionally protected freedoms. The President's job is to protect the Constitution. FISA offers the judicial oversight that the Fourth Amendment requires. FISA warrants are not that difficult to obtain, and can be applied for retroactively.

#3 Loss of privacy. Anytime the President want to get the goods on any American; he can order an illegal tap by the NSA. He wants to tap Patrick Fitzgerald's office, he will. He wants to tap political opponents, he will. I always ask Conservatives, if Hillary becomes president, will they back her warrantless searches and taps?

[Hyernel]

37. The GOP paid 6-figures for this fake poll...

I bet.

[BigYawn]

38. It's the economy stupid

Can't think of a single reason why shrub's numbers have gone up.
But the latest economic data shows 4.1% GDP increase, and
unemployment numbers lower than in 4 years and incomes rising.

Big deal, it is just the business cycle topping out. Shrub can't
take credit for it. He has no idea why economy is good.

By the time 2008 rolls around economy could be declining or bottoming
and can only hurt the repug nominee.

[spooky3]

41. Real incomes (nominal income adjusted for inflation) have fallen

since Shrub has been president.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

48. sooner than 2008 I think....

much sooner. Perhaps even as soon as Dec. 26, 2005. People are binging right now, a frantic-last-big-spree-before-it-ends-binge. I've been to the mall, I see the look in their eyes. The level of frantic-ness actually frightened me.

[Silverhair]

42. Probably a statistical outlier. Happens from time to time.

Wait and see if other polls reflect the same thing.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

43. Rasmussen just did Bush a favor, that's all

And we already know the White House asks, and demands favors. I heard on Air America that when the NYT was about to put in the story about how Bush broke the law authorizing the wiretaps of anyone, Bush called the NYT to the WH and had a little "discussion" to encourage them NOT to publish the piece.

We already know that right wingers in the media are more than glad to help out Bush the criminal. Add to that the Bush administration's demands that the media LIE and COVER UP, and we've got lies flying like never before in the history of our nation.

[wisteria]

44. His poll numbers weren't this high during the election last year.

May I suggest they are "fixing" the numbers in an attempt to make people think Bush is gaining ground and winning back support?

[tritsofme]

47. Rasmussen is a perfectly reliable and credible pollster.

Look at their record for 2004:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/State%20by%20state%20comparisons%202004.htm

It was very good.

His poll might be the outlier, but since he keeps a rolling average and releases his data daily, trends can found earlier.

Dismissing any poll that shows improvements for Bush and then citing silly internet polls as backup only makes you look ridiculous.

[Bucky]

50. Grrrr..... damned facts....

Of course Bush has been heavily marketing his view of the war, trotting out the ol' 9-11 rhetoric, and has been having his cabinet secretaries out dropping hints of a troop draw down. Package that with an actual election in Iraq (and a media who report the upside, purple fingers and all, and ignore all the post-election chaos that threatens to undo this election) and it's not all that surprising that Bush got a bounce.

Hell, for all its imperfections, I gotta say Iraq actually having an election IS a great piece of news and you really can't not credit Bush for pushing for exactly that. I'll give the devil his due. Getting a bounce back up to 50% really isn't all that impressive. But it is believeable.

[johnaries]

52. Yes, they were very "accurate" in 2004.

But considering that there is mounting evidence that the "actual vote" was manipulated, that makes me question their reliability. Considering their close ties with the Republican Party, I have to wonder if there was some information sharing beyond simple polling.

Also, after following Rasmussen for quite some time I have found their polls consistently run 3-5% more in favor of Bush than EVERY OTHER POLL IN THE COUNTRY.

Since they do daily polling, I like to use them for trends (although, as you pointed out, they do a 3-day average despite the fact they release the results daily), I always mentally make a 3-5% adjustment when I look at their Bush approval ratings.

[lynne]

56. Agreed. I have come to the conclusion that Rasmussen is one -

- of the best pollsters out there based on their past results. Not only the 2004 results, but the VA Governor's race and other election predictions. Their record is on their website for all to see. I don't look at other polls but look instead at the trends at Rasmussen.

Rasmussen asks the same question consistently. Other polls ask different questions at different times and its hard to determine a trend. Internet polls are just a joke as they are all manipulated. It makes no sense to manipulate online polls and then actually believe the results.

:crazy:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

61. Were Rasmussen's results good considering the stolen election?

Or not considering the stolen election?

[tritsofme]

62. Well then you're right.

When you exist in a dream world you only have to believe the numbers you want to.

[jackbourassa]

49. This is bullshit

Remember that Rassmussen had Bush at 46% when everyone else had him at 35%.

[socialistrot]

51. 50-50, 51-49, 49-51...

The long and short of it is that this country is pretty much divided right down the middle.

[hippiechick]

57. Key semantics: PERFORMING in his ROLE

:evilgrin: Uh huh.

[peekaloo]

58. Sweet. He's not a real president he just plays one on tee vee.

[Moochy]

60. And to the eyeores

who think this is accurate.. this is a bullshit outlier poll.

Approval ratings are subject to such scumbag tactics like was used here:
"approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as President." as opposed to "Do you apporve of the job that the president is doing?"

Guess which one polls higher regardless of the president?

Which part of the big words do you think threw them off? performing?

I call bullshit.

[Deja Q]

63. Performing what, oral sex on CEOs?

:shrug: