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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:30 PM
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FOX News' Napolitano: in retrospect, Clinton crime not impeachable offense
Sorry if this is a dupe...

FOX News Legal Analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano, appearing on The Big Story yesterday 12/20/05, equated Bush's current predicament with that of Bill Clinton's lying to a judge over the Lewinsky affair: criminal, but does not rise to the level of impeachment. He charges that if the Democrats take over the House in 2006 they will impeach Bush because "they hate him" and want "payback".

Yes, what Bush has done is impeachable and damn straight I want payback!

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/12/21/napolitano_in_retrospect_clinton_crime_not_impeachable_offense.php
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:33 PM
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1. Hate him? Yep. Want payback? Nope. There is no connection to doing
the right thing and paybacks. bush** is the head of a criminal conspiracy. Well, not exactly the head, more or less the face. But fully as guilty as the rest of them.

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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 07:23 PM
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13. Well, not exactly the head.
I was thinking more in line of the part that screws you.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 07:34 PM
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14. That would be the "Dick".
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:34 PM
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2. "Clinton crime not impeachable offense"
I am sure that makes Big Dog feel better about it all.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:36 PM
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3. Holy shit...
So lemme get this straight...

Now that the chimp has finally done something even the pundits cannot ignore, they are going so far as to relent on their accusations of Clinton to give Bush a pass?

Un-Fucking-Believable.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:17 PM
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12. Bingo.
"What Bush did is really no worse than what Clinton did, and in retrospect -- thinking back on it -- we really don't think Clinton should have been impeached after all. Heh, heh, our bad. But, of course, since what Bush did wasn't any worse than that, Bush shouldn't be impeached either."

They will tie themselves in all kinds of absurd rhetorical knots to save Bush's sorry ass.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 02:09 AM
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20. LOL
Bush himself has done it. There were several incidents where the Bush administration was so obsessive of secrecy and keeping thhings classified (I believe related to pre 9/11 intel) that they refused to declassify stuff from the Clinton administration as wellk.

At this point, I think the pundits hhave realized that there is no denying that this presidency is a disaster...and people have already judged it to be a failure...

Maybe they figure since a majority favored not impeaaching Clinton, comparing this to that makes Bush's crimes look pettier...

God, they really are full of shit..
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 04:58 AM
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22. They're pathetic.
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 01:59 PM
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24. they must be scared to death...tell you what...
I'll accept his assessment of Bush's crimes if they agree to give us BOTH houses of Congress. I'll even give Bush complete immunity on the condition that he give up his power to pardon anyone. Heck, if he wants he can go on the stand and eventually into the WPR program.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:38 PM
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4. Yeah! Payback for Big Dawg!
:D
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:39 PM
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5. He is wrong
Edited on Fri Dec-23-05 05:40 PM by DemNoir
It wasn't a "crime" no perjury charge could be brought. The lie in question was not material to the case.

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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:40 PM
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6. If we get to impeach him, it will because he has violated many laws
and has done a huge amount of damage to the US, its citizens, the planet, and people around the world.

Not for "payback," as satisfying as that would be.

Actually justice will be a lot more satisfying than "payback."
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:42 PM
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7. The only reason I'd impeach Bush...
Edited on Fri Dec-23-05 05:43 PM by C_U_L8R
is because he BROKE THE LAW.. period.

It's not payback for Clinton because what the repukes did to Clinton was frivolous...
a pain in the ass.. but totally frivolous. It was a blowjob for cryin' out loud !!

The crime Bush is commiting is a gross abuse of power that is treasonous
to the Constitution and a betrayal of every American citizen.
This is REALLY sick shit that Bush is trying to pull off !!! Twisted sick ILLEGAL shit !!!

There is no equating... there is no parallel... there is no comparison... not even slight
Bush is commiting crimes NOW and must be stopped IMMEDIATELY
and held accountable WITHOUT DELAY.

IMPEACH BUSH NOW
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:44 PM
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8. "...equated Bush's current predicament
to that of Clinton's lying to a judge" Bull fucking shit. There's no comparison. It's amazing to me that after all these years they've suddenly discovered that what Clinton did was OK if it means that what bush does is ok too. Well it ain't OK violate the Constuitution you have sworn on the bible no less to uphold, protect and defend. Sorry "Judge" I don't think many of us are buying it.
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:02 PM
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9. Payback?
What doe's payback have to do with stupidly? They could have done this legally but chose not to. Guess they felt like they didn't need to, but you know what? They did need to and every one involved needs to leave NOW.
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dusmcj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:07 PM
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10. This is the Sex Police!! Take your hands off your gonads !!
Edited on Fri Dec-23-05 06:10 PM by dusmcj
SP: And put them on your heads!!! (Damn short subject lines...)

What do you mean it's not an impeachable offence to not have sex with that woman on Federal property ? We're shocked, shocked to learn that debauchery happens within the District of Columbia

Bystander (Elmer Fudd voice): uhhh, didn't I see you at that bondage cwub on K stweet ? I think it's cauwd "The Bwack Dong" or something wike that.

SP: shut up !!! spreadeagled on the floor!!! you have to watch what you say, don't you know there's a war on ?

Bystander: I'm sowwy (sobs) I didn't mean it mister Repubwican, I voted for the Pwesident!!!

SP: well, that's better. get out of here, you don't know what I look like, understand ? (whacks Elmer with cattle prod)

Bystander: YOUCH!!! Turn down the votage, would ya buddy ?

SP: Shut up. Where were we ? Oh yeah, WHAT THE FUCK do you people think claiming that cumstains on an extra-large cocktail dress aren't a worthwhile product of $40 million of investigation dollars, or aren't worthy of impeachment, for HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS. I mean, if she had weighed 20 lbs less then maybe... uhh, umm, nevermind, cancel that.

Obnoxious DU poster #1: Fuck off you fascist moran!!! Your IQ is lower than the number of people I've had sex with this week, and I'M PROUD OF IT. If my President chose to get some in the Oval Office, that'd make me MORE likely to vote for him!!!

SP: That's the problem with America these days, you have no FAMILY VALUES, no CHARACTER, no RESOLVE. To be LEADERS, you need to be FIRM, UNDER CONTROL and CONFIDENT. That will make people admire you and agree with you and do what you say. You can't get there if you're having sex all the time; here, read this pamphlet about the second coming (bwahahahaha) of Jesus the businessman and soldier instead. Go earn some money, you'll like it, you'll have less sex, and you'll be more FIRM like us.

Ob. DU poster #2: aww, you assholes are just "firm" cause you're incredibly frustrated and verklemmt. Go jerk off you fascist asshole!!

SP: There you go again. Uhh, err, what ? I can't remember. Uhh, ohh... nevermind, a Reagan flashback. Yeah, that's it, no we're not frustrated dammit!!! White Republican males over 55 are the nation's largest consumers of Viagra, what do you think we do with it ?

Ob DU Poster: jerk off ?

SP: you filthy liberal traitor, that's what you might do, we, we, we employ it in the sacrament of marriage. But that's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

Ob DU Poster #2: I bet the NSA has film of that, asshole.

SP: WHAT ? I TOLD THEM TO TURN OFF THE CAMERAS AFTER 8. Huhh, ooh, err, um, I didn't say that (thinks to self) shit, I just revealed a national security secret.

Ob DU Posters 1 & 2 (in chorus): nyah nyah, go surveil yourselves, you fascist forks bwahahahaha

SP: EARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH (ripoff of Dean scream, head explodes)

The End.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:16 PM
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11. Funny
This is competely funny. I actually laughed when I read this. However I am not surprised that at the time when Bush gets into trouble the Republican look back and realize, oh wait Clinton should not have been impeached. The things that Bush has done are much worse than what Clinton did. What Clinton did did not break the law. Bush has continuely broken the law.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 07:46 PM
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15. He also doesn't think Nixon should have been impeached!
G - Some lawmakers have promised to investigate Bush and his no longer secret domestic spying program. If they determine that he broke the law, will they move to impeach him? Let's bring in the judge.
Just on pure legal grounds, never mind George Bush, anybody, anybody does this, is it an impeachable offense?

N - I don't think it is an impeachable offense, and I spent a chunk of the afternoon reading the Nixon evidence - not the Clinton evidence, it's fresh in my mind, it wasn't that long ago. The thread in the Nixon evidence was a strike at the security of the republic, the president simply not doing his job at all. The charges against Nixon were similar to the charges against Bush with respect to the domestic spying: using electronic surveillance without a search warrant. I don't think that was an impeachable offense then and I don't think it's an impeachable offense now.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 07:53 PM
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16. Eddie Muntser has his huge head up his ass again, to even begin to
Edited on Fri Dec-23-05 08:00 PM by chimpsrsmarter
equate the blowjob to starting a illeagal war based on bullshit intel and outright lying thats now killed tens of thousands is beyond disgusting.

on edit: He really looks more like Eddie's doll Wolfie.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 11:50 PM
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17. I wonder how much payola that legal opinion cost. Violation of
the oath of office is a high crime. He confessed on national TeeVee. Where is the controversy? And what would employees of the Saudstrailan News Corp know about our Constitution?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 12:13 AM
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18. Recalling This Wretch Napolitano's Statements Seven Years Ago, Sir
This seems an exercise in low comedy....
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 01:45 AM
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19. is this the new campaign line to motivate repugs. dems win, they
will impeach bush.

not going after the gays this time to get them out to vote for someone they dont like
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MyshkinCommaPrince Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 02:38 AM
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21. Payback.
Little kids, trying to get out of something by diverting attention to a sibling. "But Ma! Wilbur did it first!"

Holy hopping Jeebus, this bugs me. When will we all be permitted to get out of grade school?

Sorry for the strong oath. You can tell I'm dismayed when I give vent to a strong oath.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 05:16 AM
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23. Bush has commited many impeachable crimes.
And PAYBACK will be sweet.

I want the Dems to go for the jugular. They let Nixon quit before impeaching him. They let Reagan slide on Iran-Contra because of his Alzheimer's and didn't press George Sr. because they had weak knees because of the Watergate.

I say bullshit. I want these fuckers to pay.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 08:58 PM
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25. Talk about scaling back one's outrageous stands. Used to be, Clenis
Edited on Sat Dec-24-05 09:04 PM by robbedvoter
was the devil, while W is God's representative on Earth. Now, we are down to "W is no worse than Clinton - which we impeached, but maybe we shouldn't have"
earth to wingnuts:
Snooping on Americans, trying to get war powers in the US IS WORSE than getting a blow job. Much much worse.
What's W's opinion?

Asked in 1999 about Clinton's impeachment by the House, Bush responded, "I would have voted for it. I thought the man lied."
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 12:23 AM
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26. Oh geeze! How pathetic!
Too damn late!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 04:19 PM
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27. Translation: "Quick everyone! Start paddling the other way! Oh Shit!"
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 04:26 PM
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28. BULLSHIT!
The Rethugs know that they have been cornered.

Now that their "leader" has finally done something that cannot and WILL NOT be ignored by the public, they are going so far as to relent on their accusations of Clinton to give Bush a pass. I call BULLSHIT. Clinton's "offense" was very minor. Bush violated the Constitution.
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