OHIO CONSIDERS ULTRA PATRIOT ACT

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OHIO CONSIDERS ULTRA PATRIOT ACT
Friday, December 23, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.com

Ohio Governor Bob Taft is deciding whether he will sign into law the most powerful Patriot Act state legislation yet, according to NewsNet5. Taft is expected to sign the bill; however it will likely be legally challenged by civil libertarians as soon as it is.

The billed, named the Ohio Patriot Act is so restrictive on civil rights that it authorizes police to arrest anyone that refuses to give up their personal information when questioned without a warrant, or a plausible reason to be questioned. In addition, anyone using public transportation would be required to show photo identification. Anyone who refuses will also be arrested.

Many civil rights groups have criticized the bill already because it is considered another step towards creating a police state. An Ohio state representative has already said that it will invoke Gestapo-style tactics of the state government.

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=4024

[LostinVA]

1. This is sooo unconstitutional

Illegal search and seizure, anyone?

[mbperrin]

2. Ze papers, pliz!

Amazing the lengths crooks will go to in order to cover up their own thieving, ain't it?

[benEzra]

34. I think that's "Ihre papieren, bitte!" (n/t)

[BlueInPhilly]

3. IT IS NECESSARY!!!

Ohio is such a target for terrorists!!! The lawmakers are doing this to PROTECT their citizens! :sarcasm:

[msongs]

4. are there NO ohio dems that have chance at statewide office?

now maybe if the national dems party would be activist about e vote fraud and
election machines by demanding open source code for ALL such machines...and
that is just a start.

gee why are the dems so afraid of this issue as a whole? after all there are some
dems who have come out against e vote fraud, and one would think safe and secure
elections is a safe and secure position to adovcate.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[Selteri]

29. Mary Kaptur might have a chance if she ran...

that is without the Diebold election Machines and Ken Blackwell counting his own votes.

[mhr]

5. Just Proves How Crazy And Demented These Folks Are

If anyone believes that we are not headed for another civil war, I humbly submit Ohio as proof that the union will not hold much longer.

Thankfully many of us will not have to travel far to do battle for the Nations Capitol.

Are you ready for to be fitted for your new uniform?

I suggest we call ourselves Liberty Soldiers.

[ptolle]

9. I'll sign up

But I will NOT wear a uniform. If this revolution cannot be conducted in jeans and t/or sweatshirts you'll just have to throw me in the brig for being out of uniform.Or, I suppose I could form my own regiment the levis( or wranglers or whatevers) and hanes irregulars.

[madame defarge]

6. Check out this blog for more info...

http://ellenofthetenth.blogspot.com/
Look for the thread..."Ohio's Time Machine Back to 1214"

[yostsghost]

8. Forget Asking "where are the Dems?" Where the hell are the Americans?

I am all for states rights, but damn. This is where the feds need to step and squash. Oh, wait, they feds wants this. This way they can turn entire states into GITMOs. 1st debters prison now political enemies imprisoned. Is there a State Church around the corner?

Write weak Dems like Lieberman and Clinton and tell them to stop humping the leg of the GOP.

[saigon68]

22. Limpmann's conduct elates the NEOCONS

Oops forgot the "f"

[AX10]

7. Zie forthen Reich haz arrived.

:argh:

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

10. Does it make illegal coin collection

a felony?
That should be of concern in Ohio.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

11. I never liked Ohio all the years I lived there

I now see my gut feeling about the place is vindicated.

[benfranklin1776]

12. Unconstitutional as hell violative of the most basic constitutional rights

This should put to rest the notion once and for all that the Republicans are the party of "conservatism" and "limited government." True liberty loving conservatives ought to be honest enough to admit this modern day Republican Party is the gravest menace to our constititution and our basic human rights in the history of our nation. Not since Adams rammed through the odious Alien and Sedition Acts has there been a group of power hungry miscreants so rabidly intent on establishing a police state and who never, ever stop trying to enhance the power of the state to intrude on the lives of its citizens and strip them of their liberty. This legislation purports to outright repeal the fourth amendment and thoroughly trash any semblance of due process of law. The legislation is grossly unconstitutional on its face as it violates the fourth amendment with impunity and will be stricken.

See Brown v. Texas

(http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=search&court=US&case=/us/443/47.html)

in which a unanimous Supreme Court made clear it was a clear violation of the fourth amendment for police to require identification from people whom the police had no reasonable suspicion of committing a crime.

Obviously these neofascists who concocted this legislation, and that is exactly what they are, have never bothered to read the fourth amendment nor do they care what the courts have to say. Not only should this law be stricken from the books but its drafters removed from office for willfully subverting the United States and Ohio Constitutions which they are sworn to uphold.

[justsomegirl]

13. Good old Boob Taft

Taft's got an approval rating of 17%.

[belle]

18. Last I heard it was actually 6%

nice to have a mandate...

[salin]

14. scary. recalls a specific totalitarian regime.... "Do you have your

papers? Are they in order?" Do Buckeyes really want to turn their local police into a modern day version of the SS?

[davepdx]

15. Think of the advantages

of this law on election day!

[goforit]

16. Ohio is now officially the first NAZI state!!!

I'm sure South Carolina will be next in line.

Why does the small minority wieled such great power?

WE LET THEM!!!

[OKNancy]

17. I'd be a little cautious about this source

This certainly could be an accurate article, but it needs to be stated that this is a website run by Harry Browne and the Libertarians. FYI

[Media_Lies_Daily]

19. NewsNet5 is the source used by that website....you appear to be....

...shooting the messenger.

[benfranklin1776]

21. Yes it is regrettably a real story and a nightmare of the highest order

More information here:

http://www.acluohio.org/issues/safe_&_free/sb9.htm

[OKNancy]

23. Not really

Once a mod always a mod. Here is the "real" article from NewsNet5 dated Dec 19th
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/5580743/detail.html

My opinion of the law is.. it's unconstitutional and will never get by the courts, even the most conservative judges wouldn't go along with it.

[WhereIsMyFreedom]

20. I don't buy it

It is a bit over the top so without confirmation from a reputable source I don't believe it.

[cmd]

26. Try this link

http://news.yahoo.com/s/wews/3133362

[WhereIsMyFreedom]

28. Thanks

That's some really crazy sh*t. You'd think by now that nothing they do could surprise me but they keep doing more and more outrageous stuff. Why doesn't Ohio just write a law saying that the constitution does not apply in their state. :eyes:

[Selteri]

31. It is real, the Toledo Blade ran an article about this a few months ago.NT

[wookie294]

24. America is so frightened

Nineteen hijackers have turned America into Dorothy.

"I'm frightened Antie Em. I'm frightened Auntie Em!"

What cowards Americans have become! Pathetic.

[cmd]

25. Every kid in Ohio riding a school bus better have a photo ID

If they don't I'm going to take them, the bus drivers and the schools to court. Dammit.

[Bushy Being Born]

27. This can NOT be constitutional!

If this still passes muster after being challenged by various civil rights groups as I damn well hope it is, then I guess it's official that the powers that be consider the Constitution to be dead and buried.

If I lived in Ohio I would get myself concealed carry and then shoot dead the first damn Gestapo guard who tried to arrest me for refusing to give up my personal info. And it would be my goddamn right to do so! You just go ahead and take me to court, nazis!

[Earth_First]

30. Not on Dennis Kucinichs' watch!

http://kucinich.house.gov/Contact/

[madmark]

32. its to deflect from the Ohio reps recent and coming scandals

[MamaBear]

33. GOTTA PROTECT THE ... THE ... THE ...

ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME FROM THEM EVIL TERR'ISTS. :sarcasm:

[Nutmegger]

35. Hey you, where are your papers???

:hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide:

[wildcat78]

44. Happened to me...

I was driving to work in Geauga County and I got stopped by two state patrol officers who put up a road block. I had no choice but to pull over. At first I resisted and said they were violating my rights. Imeediately, one of the officers replied that the roadblocks were upheld by the Ohio Supreme Court. So, I gave them my driver's license and registration and insurance papers.

As we talked, he told me they capture a lot of people with outstanding warrants this way.

When I took my 16-year old daughter to her driver's test, they also ran a check on me and the car. It's like anytime anyone deals with the highway patrol or BMV, they automatically check if there are any outstanding tickets, warrants, etc.

So, much for living in a free country, its more like a police state.

[greiner3]

36. First thieves;

Now gestapo agents. Way to go OH!

[YOY]

37. This is one reason why I am glad to have left Ohio

Fricking idiots and morons who care more about the Buckeyes than their own Goddamn civil liberties. I feel for Duers like Ohioblue and Mongo but frankly I'll also tell them that elsewhere is far more pleasant.

[Eurobabe]

38. I can't wait to get out of this fucking state...counting the days

Going back to Virginia, and overseas.

[badgervan]

39. As Ohio Goes....

Is Taft toast? Blackwell? This is the state that I'll be watching the closest in upcoming elections. You have to really hate democrats to elect the likes of Jean Schmidt, Bob Ney and Mr. Taft. If any or all of these ultra right wingers lose, I will have hope for the rest of the country. Our nation needs a thorough house cleaning; let it begin in Ohio.

[guidod]

40. I think 2006 is looking

better and better. If the repukes keep doing crap like this they will keep losing voters faster and faster.

[madmom]

41. I've been reading all the threads about this but can't find out

who sponsored this bill. Anyone know?

[Independent_Liberal]

42. He wants to turn Ohio into a Police State!

Taft is a goddamn good-for-nothing wannabe dictator! He should be in prison anyway. Wasn't he recently indicted on fraud charges?

[katejones]

43. Wow.

That's awful.

Do they have public transportation in OH?

[sandrakae]

45. How can a fucking man with a 15 percent approval rating

even consider signing something like this.

[IndianaGreen]

46. Kick. For some reason this was moved from LBN

even though it is a legitimate LBN story. I guess someone complained that the story originated in a Libertarian website, ignoring the fact that it was true and accurate and there were postings from ACLU on same topic.

[pro_blue_guy]

47. I like Ohio.

I like Ohio; the scenery, the friendly people, the interesting weather. I just don't like Ohio politics. I am moving to Illinois in a couple of weeks to continue my college education. And I have no problem leaving old horse-faced Taft back in Ohio!

[Norwood]

48. This is scary shit.the gradual slide into a fascist nazi nation is obvious