Well I did it and it felt good

[ewoden]

We had a Christmas party last night. Hey I am a Lutheran, and we relish a good party and i really like christmas. . . sue me.

Well it didn't take long for my neighbor, after a few coctails, to share his pearls of political wisdom. You know the mantra, "the President is committed to protecting the flock", the "evil liberals are taking away his tools to do that", he "has to be able to find the bad seeds among our midst".

With that I launched. . . "Bad seeds? You mean the Quakers right? Hey I must be a fellow traveler then, as my sister is a Quaker. You obviously support the concept that she is an enemy of the state. Hey guess what, she is standing right behind you right now, good thing she is a pacifist, but too bad for you I'm not gracious as she. Come to think of it I propably am under investigation as well because I support the ACLU! You know those folks that support those hard-won liberties that I, my father, and my father's father took to the field of battle to defend. Oh and about that "protect us" stuff, just what am I being protected from? Enemies who want to destroy my system of government? Dick and George stomping all over the legislative arm of the government and attempting to appoint grapefruit to the Supreme Court, would that be the kind of enemy your talking about? Perhaps its an enemy of our freedoms, you know those things like that pesky 4th ammendment, that is denied an American citizen each and every time the President issues an executive orer to initiate an illegal search without due process of law. Oh I think I have a grasp of who is the real set of enemies I need to be concerned about. They are the likes of you, a guy who would defend a userper of power through the currency of fear and party politics. Coward! It's time for you to leave. You are not fit to be called an American, you are a traitorous blight on all things free, honest, good about my country."

Appalled he rsponed. "You're not actually are throwing me out of your house?"

"Damn right. And until such a time as your President and his legal minions squander the rest of the bill of rights, I believe I still own this property and can make the decisions regarding who I shelter, who I break bread with, and who I choose to associate with socially. Good night and may God and the people I stand with have mercy on you poor misbeguided soul."

So that's the gist of the story. First, if they want to participate in support of the erosion of your rights, throw them fom your house. decide not to support their business. boycott their television and radio stations!! Then after enough of us have done that, it's time to throw the architects of this grand scheme out of the People's House, 1600 Penn Avenue!!!!!

[NYCGirl]

1. Why are you apologizing for throwing a Christmas party? NT

[ewoden]

5. No apology . . .

just a statement of fact. I recognize that Christmas makes some uneasy though.

[NYCGirl]

8. Why would Christmas make people uneasy? That's a Fox News fantasy.

NT

[LeftNYC]

11. Christmas is cool...

I love giving gifts.(and receiving). I dont really believe in the religious part of it, but dont let O'Reilly make you think that Christmas makes anyone uneasy...

[No Exit]

72. It's been 364 days since 12/25, and there's chatter that indicates

there may be another attack tomorrow!!! What will we do??? We need to look to Our Leader to protect us!!! Regime change now!!! Santa Claus must be removed from power NOW!!!

[snowbear]

57. Some where??

I have to tell you... I don't watch Faux news ----EVER---- and the only time I hear about the "assault on Christmas".. are when the other networks report about Faux's bogus attempt to create some fake situation that doesn't exist.

I admit.. I didn't read all of the replies here (just the first 2 or 3) .. but I agree 100% with them...

why on earth are you apologizing? :shrug:

Did you get that viewpoint from Faux? :o

[tavalon]

69. It makes O'Reilly uneasy

because he is a xenophobe.

Most of the rest of us have been and continue to be just fine with it. I am and I'm a pagan of 14 years duration.

[No Exit]

71. What?? What's the matter with you, don't you know we are at WAR??

We are in the midst of a deadly War On Christmas. Hey, look, you're either with us or against us! The original poster obviously knows he made a mistake by harboring Christmasists... we accept his apology, but we're sending him to Guantanamo anyway!

[diddlysquat]

2. Bravo!

Good for you.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. Wow!

That was something, all right! I haven't yet met anyone who has told me they support the pResident in this wiretapping thing-but I'll keep your arguments in mind if I do!

[mark11727]

4. An eloquent and righteous rant, ewoden,,,!

And welcome to DU! :hi:

[ewoden]

12. It's time to treat these sheep like the livestock they are

Back home, sheep with scrapies, a disease of the CNS, were culled from the flock.

I intend to overtly "cull" these political sheep socially from my flock.

They are diseased traitors. They blindly support an administration hellbent on the destruction of our American way of life. The rights to life, liberty, happiness, freedom from establishment of state religion, freedom from illegal search and seizure, freedom to assemble and speak our midns.

It is high time the cold hard light of liberty shine down and expose these cockroaches for the scuttling vermin that they are. Forget the metered siscourse of the intellengensia. i getting ready to verbally abuse some freepers within earshot of my person.

[yorkiemommie1]

17. i have culled too

i am DONE with bushbots.

[donkeyotay]

25. Remember the era of the angry white man - the Contract on America?

They were absolutely belligerent: name-calling, talking over the so-called liberals on television. They were mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. They said they were tired of being ridiculed and treated like a minority (they were). Well, it's time to turn the tables. One of the reasons that the right became so obnoxious (other than a monopoly on television and radio and the vote counting) is because they have steamrolled over opposition. I agree that we can no longer afford to let them have the luxury of thinking their point of view is the center of the universe and that all others must approach on the knees. F* em. We can't be quiet any longer.
:patriot:

[wryter2000]

46. I use that all the time

"I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore." When they accuse liberals of whining, I answer, "Does this sound like whining, asshole? I'm pissed. I'm not whining. I'm taking my country back from you."

When they tell me, "You're so angry," I tell them 2100 dead American kids and who knows how many thousands of innocent Iraqis and half a trillion spent on the war. Only an idiot isn't angry about that. Where are the WMD's, dipshit?

[MadisonProgressive]

40. As you cull the herd

Make note of those you cull, keep an eye on them, and watch your back.

[wryter2000]

45. Welcome to DU

Wow! :hi:

[merh]

6. Welcome ewoden

Good for you - you don't have to put up with that in your home, not at any time.

Maybe, if enough of us call them on their hate and turn our backs on them as they have the rest of our society, just maybe they will have an awaken and remove the cross and the flag from their eyes and let the light of truth in. Once they overcome the heart ache caused by their realizations they can stand with us as we reclaim our nation. (One can hope any way.)

[ananda]

7. I donated to the Quakers..

.. right after Katrina.

Does that make me a bad sheep in the
pResident's flock?

I hope so.

[China_cat]

13. Quakers have always been on the republican hit list.

You'll know we're really in trouble if THIS admin does as the Nixon WH did and declare members of Le Leche League subversives.

For those who don't recognize the reference, LLL is an organization of breast-feeding mothers who provide extra milk for infants in jeopardy...who can't digest formula and whose own mothers can't breast feed.

J Edgar rated LLL right under Quakers on the Nixon subversive list.

[rsdsharp]

18. Nixon WAS a Quaker. nt

[China_cat]

24. I know that.

Maybe that's why he hated them so.

[tularetom]

9. There's people in my family I'd like to do that to

but it's really hard to do that during the holidays. My arm is already all bruised from where my wife has pinched or elbowed me to shut up during family hatherings.

[katejones]

10. The problem I have

with this is that it is hate filled also. I think responding to someone aggreably is important because it will change people. Having been thrown out of your house, all he is thinking is how horrible you are, not your argument.

[ewoden]

15. metaphor

I have a dog. It pees on the downstairs carpet. I've rationalized witht the dog. It looks at me, wags it's tail and still pees on the rig. I've monitored it's water intake. . .stills pees. frequent trips outside for walks and ball trhowing. Still pees. Trip to the vet for disease, none, and still pees on the rug. I'm not angry with the dog, it is doing what dogs do when they feel they must control territory. But I have come to understand that it is now a struggle to determine who actually owns the house, the dog or me, and not where exactly it pees.

[belle]

20. Well, the DOG has a brain the size of a walnut.

And...oh. never mind.

anyway, presumably the dog loves you, which isn't something that exactly seems to be real prevalent among the freepers, love.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

65. You know, this is off topic

but due to the metaphor, maybe not!

I have a Boston Terrier (known as the Boston Terrorist) who pees everywhere. We've tried everything. Drives us nuts. Thank God we have tile floors and good backs. But we love him.

Being from Boston, obviously he is Roman Catholic and a Ted Kennedy Democrat. As a matter of fact, he had a cousin named Jack after JFK.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

62. Great metaphor

and it seems to me we're still in the wag the tail stage.

I am assuming (haven't reread OP) this was the first offense? Everyone has their own personal code. Mine is, unless you threaten to harm me or my family or possessions I put up with you and stay civil and never invite you back.

tg

[MissMarple]

16. At some point it's OK to just tell them to leave.

That guy won't listen to reason. And he was insulting his host and his host's family. The least he could have done was just keep his insulting "opinions" to himself while enjoying the hospitality of a neighbor. He overstepped the bounds, he wasn't seduced into it.

[adigal]

21. Maybe she can be agreeable as her neighbor

points her out to the BootJacks who have come to round her up as part of the political opposition?

[driver8]

26. I disagree...I don't see it as "hate filled" at all. This person was

invited to the party and started shooting his mouth off. He insulted the host and his sister. There is no reason that someone should have to listen to a blowhard in their own home. I see it more as "frustration" than being "hate filled."

The next time that person is invited to someone's home, maybe he will think twice before opening his mouth and spouting his bullshit.

ewoden -- welcome to DU!! You definitely came in with a bang!!

[lynne]

27. I see this much as you do. No minds will be changed in this manner.

In fact, the unpleasantness will probably only escalate as it involved a neighbor. And the OP will get the reputation for being a less-than-gracious host.

Maybe I'm old-fashioned but I don't think anything good comes from inviting people into your home and then throwing them out for expressing a contrary opinion. It doesn't sound as though the neighbor was being aggressive or violent - which are the only reasons I would ask someone to leave. Barring that, the best thing to do would be just to not host parties in the future.

When in a social situation and politics are mentioned, I say "I don't discuss politics, religion or sex as every war I know of involved at least one of the three." That usually quickly turns the topic to sex! :-)

[wryter2000]

47. Welcome to DU, Kate

As you may have noticed, we don't agree on everything here. That's just us. :evilgrin: You're very welcome.

:hi:

[Warpy]

14. There is no reason to put up with rudeness in your own home

and anyone who gets a snootful and starts talking politics in any sort of celebration is RUDE.

You were very right to give him the boot. You may have saved his life, too, as he'd only have gotten drunker as the evening progressed.

[lukasahero]

19. This is why I only invite liberals to my Christmas parties. :)

Sorry this person couldn't simply appreciate your welcoming them to your home and just STFU. Good grief. (And seriously, all our friends and neighbors are liberals - makes the invitation process so much easier. :) )

[Joanne98]

22. BRAVO! K&R! Now call up all your "Thug" relatives and tell them

TO GO TO HELL!

[Nutmegger]

23. Hey, sometimes you have to cull

Good for you! I can't stand robots myself... :puke: :puke:

[renie408]

28. Woo Hoo!!! You ROCK!! n/t

[HEyHEY]

29. I made one disappear with my mind

I said, "Hey buddy, if you're gonna come round my computer telling lies and bullshit, then I'm gonna make you disappear!"

[TallahasseeGrannie]

30. Now let me get this straight

You had a Christmas party and you invited your neighbors. You got into a political argument with one and you threw him out of your home? You invited him and then you threw him out?

I'm sure everyone there had a GREAT time after THAT, huh? Kinda the Old Christmas spirit and all.

I admire your passion but as a grannie I must tell you YOUR MANNERS NEED SOME WORK, DEAR.

[NYCGirl]

32. Word, TG. I thought exactly the same thing you did.

If someone was a guest in my house, I would not throw them out short of them doing something that endangered the other guests. I would politely tell them to quiet down if they were saying something offensive to others. Of course, I would never invite them again.

[cmd]

34. I want to be your neighbor

I know you would back me all the way. Way to go!

[ewoden]

33. Granny you got it right, however

I called him aside, and in private booted his sorry behind. And when asked by a guest why he left, I informed said guest of his violation of rule one at my house, no politics. response was that said repud strolls around the neighborhood spewing his opinions like so much fertilizer and good riddence.

[NYCGirl]

35. That's not the way you described it above. When you say, "With that

I launched", it suggests you first lectured him and then booted him out in full view of everyone. Did I misunderstand your post?

Edited to add: Please excuse my rudeness — I realize the response was for TG.

[ewoden]

43. Yes, you did Though my words likely mislead

[TheBaldyMan]

56. makes an excellent story though ;) n/t

[TallahasseeGrannie]

63. Okay, now you have added that

and I don't really have a problem with a quiet suggestion in a back room "it might be best for everyone if you left."

I also assume he was drunk and sometimes a drunk will have to be escorted home.

But the original scenario I saw in my head was "here's the door, jackass" in front of the party, and personally that would send me looking for my purse and my xanax bottle!

[TankLV]

52. No - the asshole neighbor needs some manners.

The repuke neighbor started it. The repuke neighbor was rude by trying to intimidate and disparage those around him including his host.

The OP finished it.

The OP was giving back to him exactly what he tried to give out.

You are WAY wrong!

[NYCGirl]

55. In my home, I practice the Democratic ideal of free speech. Everyone who

is invited in is free to express themselves short of racial slurs or threats. If they want to act like an asshole, they don't get invited back.

[rman]

60. "short of (...) threats"

"evil liberals are taking away his tools to do that", * "has to be able to find the bad seeds among our midst".


So perhaps the neighbor did not realize his hosts are among those supposedly "evil liberals" and "bad seeds that have to be found". Bad call on his part.

[NYCGirl]

67. Those aren't threats. They're stupid opinions. NT

[rman]

70. people can do stupid things for stupid reasons. nt

[TallahasseeGrannie]

64. I would respectfully comment

on your opinion (which you certainly have the right to)

that your code of manners is definitely the rule for fifth grade interaction.

But if you read the thread down a bit you will see that he handled it privately and therefore I think his manners were intact.

[rman]

59. Presumably the OP did not know in advance

that the neighbor was going to imply that the OP and his sister are "bad seeds among our midst" which * "has to able to find".

Does hospitality mean one has to accept anything a guest says or does?

What about the neighbor's manners?

How about "don't overstay your welcome"?

Maybe next time the neighbor will think before a starts spouting RW talking points which are downright insults to the host.

[hippiechick]

31. Bravo!

:applause: It's time more of us start talking back to the sheep.

Thank you !

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

36. Without having witnessed it, without all the background info, I believe

that you have every right to not have to listen to that carp he was starting to spout.

Pardon me, but it sounds even worse to me when it comes from a particular kind of drunk, usually a habitual one who always goes to the same dead horse.

I also believe you have a right to react from your heart to what the individual was saying and how he was saying it.

I assume he knew that your beliefs were quite different from what he was saying, I don't know.

I don't believe there is a right or wrong way to react. Everyone has limits as to what they are willing to put up with.

Peace.

[Quakerfriend]

37. Well done! We need to start speaking out to save this

country.

I have a repug family. Lovely people but, their eyes are closed despite the fact that they are highly educated, and politically active as well.

My repug sister mentioned that she has some family info re: Richard Stockton and Benjamin Rush that she is going to pass out to everyone at christmas time. (They are distant relatives of ours- Can you believe it?).

So, I am planning on giving a 'little speech' at the time. I am all fired up about it and hubbie is going to video tape my speech to the family! IT IS PAST TIME TO SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER!

[laugle]

38. I like your rant, but remember the old saying;

"don't discuss politics and religion" it always ends up heated.

Tonight is my dinner party, and the simple rule is no arguing on Xmas, period, end of story.

It's simple and it works.

I can't stand my next store, sloppo, neighbor, but since we both own our homes, we are forced to bite the bullet and get along.

I hope your neighbor isn't too close. LOL!!

Happy holidays!!

[Nimrod2005]

39. How many drinks did you have in you before you did this?

[ewoden]

42. Zero , As a host one remains sober

[Nimrod2005]

61. Well done...

[UrbScotty]

41. I would've included something about the Beatitudes (nt)

[InvisibleTouch]

44. Good for you!

Never be afraid to tell it like it is.

I think some of the deeply initiated Rethug supporters have truly and honestly never heard an alternate opinion - at least not in person from a live human being, though they've surely heard a lot about the liberal boogeyman from their talk-radio idols. They can't really imagine someone they know - a neighbor, a co-worker, an acquaintance - not thinking as they do. They need a wake-up call, and they need to be confronted with the facts. And even if the person you're talking to doesn't get it, you will certainly have a positive impact on someone who witnesses the scene.

Nicely done.

[ohtransplant]

48. Bravo!

Can we come to your Xmas party next year?

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease!

[dooner]

49. hmm.... could really liven up family gatherings!

Wow, maybe I should try this on the Republican in-laws when the come over tomorrow for Christmas Eve dinner.
Then again, maybe not. But man, the thought of it cheers me up! Congrats for having the courage of your
conviction.

I worry a b it that being this rude to morons doesn't necessarily help bring people closer together. But then again, what's it gonna
take to get people to wake up and smell the coffee?

[jhain]

50. Well said!! Well Said!!

And Well done! What I would not give to have seen his face as you closed your door behind him!!

Merry Christmas, ewoden! And I feel a happier New Year coming right along..........

[TankLV]

51. Good for you.

It was a long overdue.

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[Contrary1]

54. And the Right Wingers are so blind...

Lies are all you have left.

[Gelliebeans]

58. Wow

I have always wanted to have that discussion with a freeper but they never come over :(

Sounds like you left an impression

Good for you

[greiner3]

66. Good stuff;

Maybe in the future it will be determined who you socialize with depending on which side of your body is dominant. I've been a 'lefty' all my life!

[tavalon]

68. Wow

That was some badass rant you gave that guy!