Will republicans ever get over Clinton?

[harpo]

Every day I hear something about them bringing up Clinton to compare to Bush. Don't they want to hold the people currently in office accountable rather than attack presidents who are no longer in office? I really think republicans should "get over it".

[architect359]

1. Survey says:

No.

Will we ever get over Bush?

No.

[soothsayer]

4. Yeah, we'll get over Bush. I can't wait to get over bush! I'll never

get over Clinton. (sigh) Miss him!

[Skittles]

20. don't EVEN f***ing compare Clinton to that piece of SHIT bush

DON'T EVEN

[Loonman]

2. I doubt it

It really does make them sound childish, though.

[unblock]

3. sure they will, just like they got over carter

pretty much as soon as clinton became their boogeyman, they forgot about carter.

similarly, as soon as we get a democrat in the white house, they'll forget about clinton and turn THAT president into the devil incarnate.

[Ezlivin]

6. And if the last name of the new president is Clinton, we'll never hear the

end of it.

I think that electing Hillary would actually aid right-wing radio. Else what would they rail against?

[unblock]

8. i don't think hillary can win a general election

i think she'd make a fantastic president and it certainly would be great to see bill back in the white house!

but she's just too much of a fund-raising bonanza for the right wing. we would be outspent into oblivion and the propaganda onslaught would make the swift boat liars look like cub scouts.

[harpo]

11. me no like hillary, she voted YES on Iraq

[AtomicKitten]

34. yeah, we get it.

got anything new to say?

[HysteryDiagnosis]

7. Question is... who will be their next boogeyman??? He's coming

to a wh near you!!! Get over it freeps.

[CBHagman]

27. I don't know. There's still virulent Carter-bashing going on.

Carter could (and probably does) have a whole shelf full of prizes for his work, and there are still some people who attack him on one or two issues and regard him as the worst president of recent years. I work with some such people.

One thing that concerns me is the media's tendency to take sides in the vilification or hagiography of recent presidents. For example, the supposedly liberal Washington Post :eyes: has, in news stories, depicted Reagan as an enduringly popular president and Clinton as a controversial one who left office under a cloud. Then a helpful reader pointed out that Clinton left office with a higher approval rating than did Reagan.

Eventually historians will take over and there will likely be a saner view of all recent presidencies, but for now, the GOP -- indeed, a certain wing of the GOP -- is getting away with imposing their view of history on the media. Look at Chris Matthews proclaiming that everyone likes Bush except for nutty left-wingers. :eyes:

[BOSSHOG]

5. They are waiting for the ultimate comparison

When bush is caught getting a blow job from an intern the bush base will scream, Clinton did it to; and they will be shocked when there is no reply.

[SoFlaJet]

9. That's a great point

Boss-and so true,it's their mantra

[FloridaPat]

10. One repub said the Clinton hounding was because of Nixon.

They were getting even. These people are mean, nasty, and spitefull and will wait forever to get even. Too bad they can take all that energy and concern and help build the country up instead of tearing it to pieces. Anyhow, with the crimes * has commited and the wonton distruction of the country, if we do anything to these creeps, they will hound us forever to get even. Of course doing nothing will put us under a facist government that spies on everyone and makes serfs of us all. So we have to put all of them in jail for life. No other choice.

[harpo]

12. Jesus Christ tells them its ok to attack democrats

[AtomicKitten]

35. I think the impeachment was getting even.

But I think Bill's charisma, intelligence, and savvy REALLY scared the shit out of them.

[tx_dem41]

13. I predict 4-8 years from now we'll still be railing about Bush over here.

Its human nature. I hate that it is...but it is.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

15. If we're lucky enough to even have the opportunity...

...we'll probably still be cleaning up all the problems he caused.

[...of J.Temperance]

26. We'll probably still be railing about Junior because, let's face it

The absolute gargantuan mess he's created, both domestically and internationally, is going to take an effort of Herculean proportions to clean up.

We'll still be railing because we'll be saying "Damn, if Junior hadn't of fucked that up so badly, we wouldn't have to be doing such and such now...If Junior hadn't of fucked that up so badly, well then we'd have more money to spend on such and such..."

We'll still be railing because right now the National Debt is $8 trillion, and when Junior pisses off he'll have turned it into $10 trillion.

It's going to take decades to clean up the mess Junior's created in just eight years.

On Edit: Dammit spelling error.

[Golden Raisin]

18. Let's hope we're not

railing about Bush 4-8 years from now because he declared martial law, suspended the Constitution/Bill of Rights and is still in the Oval Office!

[thebigidea]

32. golly, could it possibly be because he's done much more damage than Bill?

sounds like typical "oh, both sides do it so its a wash" drivel.

[Hippo_Tron]

33. But Bush's policies are radical, Clinton was very moderate

He even enacted several policies that were created by Republicans. I'm not saying that the right wing should absolutely love him, but policy wise he wasn't like their worst nightmare or anything.
They hated Clinton simply because he won.

[NicRic]

14. Get over which part of Clinton ?

The fact that he messed around with a young girl in the oval office .Or the part that when it came to his job of being President he worked tirelessly to make our country the envy of the world a robust economy ,crime & unemployment at all time low ,so and so on . Or what about their follow up to Dem President being perhaps the biggest failure ,the sadest excuse for a president this country has ever seen. I doubt they would admit to foregiving Bill for his indescretion , and on the economy and the dozens of other positives ,they never gave him credit for any of it and never will ! Its the people voting repugs out of office and giving the Dems lanslide victories all over the place ,that I want to know if they will fogive bush for ?
NicRic

[AtomicKitten]

36. and to think what great work Clinton might have done

had it not been for the jihad against him. It was a miracle he was as resoundingly successful as he was. No thanks to the media, I might add.

[Evergreen Emerald]

16. Clinton's image among republicans was the product of...

...a never ending, vast, publicity campaign brought by the powerful conservatives using the media, the RNC, Congress, the courts, the "independent prosecutor" and every power available to them to minimize, defeat, annihilate him. And the lemmings could not see past the hype (the same lemmings that bought the re-definition of "liberal" and who voted for Bush and who listen to Rush Limpb)and lies.

The idea of "clinton bad" was ingrained in their brains with the near constant bombardment.

And that their hypocrisy is evident at this point in our history has not been shouted from the rooftops by the Democrats.

[LiberalEsto]

17. I saw Impeach Clinton bumper stickers before his inauguration

The repugs didn't waste a nanosecond.

[leftyladyfrommo]

19. I haven't ever gotten over Nixon

Is that the same thing.

[Evergreen Emerald]

23. No, it is different

The Democrats did not set out to destroy Nixon. He did that on his own, and was taken to task for his illegal behavior.

The right, on the other hand, implemented this plan of attack against Clinton. I remember being bombarded with lies and distortions and a bunch-of-crap in their manic attempt at dehumanization of Clinton. (and the lemmings who cannot think for themselves bought it). And after all of those billions of dollars and sifting under every rock--they got him on a blow job.

Do you see the difference?

And, more importantly, do you see what Bush is doing and how those who shouted the loudest against Clinton are hypocritically silent about Bush. This is more than a blow-job. This is about our democracy.

[leftyladyfrommo]

30. I know - I agree with you.

I feel like this business is unbelievable serious and dangerous for all of us.

[LWolf]

21. Why should they?

Have Democrats gotten over him? I read the name Clinton at DU often enough to suspect that neither side has "gotten over it."

I doubt any intelligent republicans ever had anything against Bill other than his successes; the "attack" mode is just their defense in the face of issues. If you've got nothing of substance to support yourself with, attack. His pecadillos provided them with the perfect weapon of distraction, and they've trained their obedient ditto heads well.

[harpo]

31. attacking is ok by them, its a christian value

[rniel]

22. That's why

I don't support Hillary, but it would be kind of fun for her to win just to spite those assholes.

[katejones]

24. Nope.

Not til he is dead- and then they will write books about his misdeeds.

[Zinfandel]

25. Not until the next Dem prez! Who will raise taxes on the rich, protect the

environment, help minorities, safe guard women's rights, cut the the bloated military budget, secure Social Security, raise the minimum wage, offer universal health care, and keep the peace & prosperity.

When that democrat is elected, then Clinton will be long forgotten and the new one will be trashed even more, can't have people thinking a democrat is good for the people and the country, greedy fucking republicans.

[greendog]

28. Will they ever get over FDR?

:shrug:

[thatsrightimirish]

29. That's a good point greendog

Agree with you there. Ever since FDR the republicans have done everything in their power to reverse the progress.

[Hippo_Tron]

37. FDR set their agenda back almost 50 years

Eisenhower, Nixon, and Ford were all GOP Presidents that more or less accepted the New Deal and even the Great Society as the established law of the land. Raygun was the first Republican to try and return American to the pre New Deal era.

[Jed Dilligan]

38. Beat me to it! nt

[robbedvoter]

41. Clinton compounded FDR's crimes by being "not our kind of people"

His being from the wrong side of the fence caused much of the viciousness in the media coverage, including the so called "liberal" (I mean truly sources that should have been on his side)

[meow2u3]

39. The real reason freepers are so obsessed with Clinton

They secretly have the hots for him, but he's already taken. Because the Big Dog wouldn't fulfill their twisted fantasies, they have decided to hate him because they're jealous of Hillary.

[Ciggies and coffee]

40. Cocktails in hand, laughing

Bill and Poppy discussing how the people buy the crap.