People, Hear Me! Hear Me Now!

[radio4progressives]

The Bush Crime Family operatives are all over the MSM, morphing the Domestic Spying issue and CRIMINAL actions into a "debatable" question.

They're morphing the matter of CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS into so called "gray areas" of "Presidential Authority" in a "Time of War" and under the rubric of "National Security vs Civil Liberties".

MY GOD PEOPLE!

I URGE YOU ALL!!

Do not let the MSM get away with this!

DON'T let any politician and/or Public Relations (aka "advisors")get away with this!

Don't allow the meme "Clinton did it too" (whether or not it is fact or fiction is NOT the point) to trump the constitutional threats that have been thwarted upon us.

I beg every DU member to contact your respective Senators, Representatives, and Local and National News Media every single day - until the loud resounding call to end these practices cease and desist no matter which party is in power!

Demand the Abolishing of the Patriot Act and call for the joint investigation hearings on Bush, Cheney, Rice & Rumsfeld's wanton violations of our Civil Liberties, BEFORE THE ALITO hearings!

Demand Congress to file INJUNCTIONS against the White House and the Pentagon on ALL DOMESTIC SPYING and to iniate Congressional Oversight wrt any on going interceptions considered as bonafide national security risks and/or interests.

I beg you all, do it now and everyday until these procedures are finally underway, or forever lose your liberty.

Hear me people, we need to restore our rights and we need to do it now.

[TexasLawyer]

1. hear, hear!

recommended!

[ClassWarrior]

2. Agreed - and don't call them the "MSM"...

They're NOT "mainstream." They're the Corporate Media.

NGU.

[radio4progressives]

4. Ok... Corporate Media it is!

:hi:

[ClassWarrior]

7. Thanks!

:hi:

NGU.

[rman]

19. I beg to differ

By far most people do get by far most of their information about what goes on in the world, from the "corporate media". So the corporate media are by definition the "main stream media".

So in this case "mainstream" and "corporate" are two aspects of the same thing.

In a different place in a different time, the mainstream media might be state media.

[prairierose]

23. I call them...

corporate media whores

:grr:

They no longer make any pretense of covering important news or issues. It is all about repeating the WH talking points and press releases.

Why are Americans so woefully ignorant not only of what is happening in the world but in their own country? Because we do not have a working free press.

[Neil Lisst]

3. This is the problem with the Christmas break.

It allows the administration to almost totally control input to news, and since now the news only repeats what it is told, we can't muster a decent and timely rebuttal.

[radio4progressives]

5. Yes, what you say is quite true..

But that can work in our favor too I think, in that "most americans" are probably too busy with their holiday plans to be saturated with their message and therefore persuaded by their justifications.

While this period of time does give Bush Co. the time to catapult their propaganda "on message" into the Corporate Media, I think we have the potential to get "on message" for "We the People", by demonstrating over and over to journalists how they too are at risk and their work can be impacted by these violations as well, and to put it back into context as a high crime against the people.

In fact, I heard a parallel scenario posited by Bob Baer yesterday to Andrea Mitchell on Hard Ball - laying out how journalists working on a story of national security importance would be subjected to the same thing as illustrated in the film Syriana (based on Robert Baer's book).

Andrea Mitchell should know something about this, her husband Alan Greenspan was head of the Federal Reserve for the past decade or so, and was privy to matters of national security secrets on a daily basis.

Mitchell isn't someone i generally have much regard for, so it came as a bit of surprise to me to observe her take a position of "advocacy journalism" (one could argue) at least in so far as making an effort to hang on to the pertinent points at issue on this subject.

So i think we could benefit from an unusual alliance with Corporate Media on this matter if we worked at it.

[Name removed]

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[bonito]

6. K&R, Thanks!

[LittleClarkie]

8. And here I thought these Republicans thought the Constitution was so

spiffy.

They kept talking about being Constitutionalists and all.

Apparently some of them haven't read it all.

[radio4progressives]

9. What a Ruse! "Strict Constructionists" sheesh! n/t

[Ouabache]

12. Bush is quoted as saying, "It's just a goddammed piece of paper."

somewhere

[radio4progressives]

16. Yeah... Capital Blue reported that story....

no one seems to know how reliable that source is...

but it's had some pretty interesting "inside" scoops, but always quoting "anonymous sources" .

[Auntie Bush]

10. Rethugs doing what Rethugs do best.

Change the subject, lie distort and spin.

[katinmn]

11. Spying on Americans without just cause is indefensible. Period.

[eve_was_framed]

13. if it's only a "grey areas" issue why was Nixon impeached for it?

correction: why was Nixon forced to resign before he would have been impeached for the very same, i.e., wire tapping! ?

[radio4progressives]

15. Exactly! Why doesn't the Press draw the proper perspective & conclusions?

We were in a "time of war" then, as well.

[eve_was_framed]

18. I'm so sick of the lame ass press giving the anointed simian

a free pass, shit I sure hope this isn't another!

[TheGunslinger]

14. We hear thee well. Thankee-sai!

[radio4progressives]

17. thanks!

:hi:

[greiner3]

20. We do need;

A Thomas Paine in our hour of need. Will one step up and be heard?

[radio4progressives]

22. Might it be Russ Feingold??

:shrug: