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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 07:10 PM
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RNC spokeswoman says Conyers isn't "a credible voice in the war on terror"
Rep. John Conyers (news, bio, voting record), D-Mich., called Tuesday for Congress to censure President Bush and Vice President Cheney, saying they misled lawmakers on the decision to go to war in Iraq.

Conyers, the senior Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, introduced resolutions creating a panel to investigate the Bush administration's handling of the Iraq war and separate measures censuring Bush and Cheney.

Conyers, releasing a staff report on the buildup to war, cited "substantial evidence the president, the vice president and other high-ranking members of the Bush administration misled Congress and the American people regarding the decision to go to war in Iraq."

Republican National Committee spokeswoman Ann Marie Hauser said if Conyers "spent half the time condemning terrorism that he does condemning the President of the United States, he would be a credible voice in the war on terror."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051220/ap_on_go_pr_wh/downing_street_memo_1&printer=1
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 07:12 PM
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1. What a slack jawed dimwit Ann Marie Hauser must be.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 07:13 PM
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2. If the guy who spends almost half of his time on vacation

spent a tiny fraction of it paying attention to drastic PDB's warning of imminent attacks he would be a credible voice in the war on terror.

But he didn't and he isn't.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 07:16 PM
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4. Can I get an 'Amen' to that! nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 09:07 PM
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8. If bush had acted on the August
6th memo instead of "spiking" it..we wouldn't be having this conversation but that wouldn't have fit in with bush's "war president" plans..would it?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 07:16 PM
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3. all righty then, anne marie , how many warnings pre-9-11
does it take prezelnit bush to take a terroist threat seriously?
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 07:42 PM
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5. Ann Marie Hauser (who is that?) - your 'statement ' makes me sick
Mr. Conyers is IN FACT spending a considerable amount of his time condemning and working against "terrorism", when he works against a president who is forcing and/or threatening to coerce the compliance of the rest of the community (the US) into supporting an illegal war and subversion of the Constitution of the United States -- by this president CONSTANTLY remindering US citizens of an unnamed/unidentified 'enemy' who is a frightening aspect <the terrors of invasion> or will commit violence (as bombing).

John Conyers is a true patriot.

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Main Entry: ter·ror·ism
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m
Function: noun
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/terror

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Main Entry: ter·ror
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French terreur, from Latin terror, from terrEre to frighten; akin to Greek trein to be afraid, flee, tremein to tremble -- more at TREMBLE
1 : a state of intense fear
2 a : one that inspires fear : SCOURGE b : a frightening aspect <the terrors of invasion> c : a cause of anxiety : WORRY d : an appalling person or thing; especially : BRAT
3 : REIGN OF TERROR
4 : violence (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands <insurrection and revolutionary terror>

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/terror

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Main Entry: co·erce
Pronunciation: kO-'&rs
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): co·erced; co·erc·ing
Etymology: Latin coercEre, from co- + arcEre to shut up, enclose -- more at ARK
1 : to restrain or dominate by force <religion in the past has tried to coerce the irreligious -- W. R. Inge>
2 : to compel to an act or choice
3 : to bring about by force or threat <coerce the compliance of the rest of the community -- Scott Buchanan>
synonym see FORCE
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 07:59 PM
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6. This is good - if they have assigned an RNC spokesperon to attack
Conyers it means they fear the man. This is good. It probably also means that tomorrow they will give some kind of an award to a Black-American.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:10 PM
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12. Like Armstrong Williams
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 09:05 PM
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7. The resident monkey needs to be
Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 09:05 PM by zidzi
"CONDEMNED"! And your trying to change the subject doesn't change FACT, ann marie hauser.
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banana republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 09:15 PM
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9. How do I sign up to be a NON-Credible source....
a badge of honor??????
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 09:33 PM
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10. What does it mean to censure Bush & Cheney? n/t
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 09:49 PM
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11. Censure defined:
What is "Censure?"

Although ill-defined, censure is a process of Congressional reprimand--the political equivalent of a strongly-worded letter. In 1834, a Whig Senate "censured" Democratic President Andrew Jackson in retaliation for his withholding documents. Three years later, a Democratic Senate "expunged" the censure from the record. However, that act of censure had no basis in either the Constitution or the Rules of the House and Senate. This remains true today. Ordinarily, Congressional disapproval of the President is relayed either through its legislative power including the veto override power or through impeachment.

Presumably, censure of the President would take the form of a resolution adopted by both the House and Senate and then publicly announced. Legally, the resolution would have no effect. Censure derives from the formal condemnation by either the House or the Senate in rebuke of a Member of their own body. After a majority vote, the Member is publicly denounced, but still retains the position of Representative or Senator. However, the House removes the offending Member from any leadership positions in committees or sub-committees.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/background/impeach/censure.htm
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:04 AM
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14. This probably worked really well back in the days.....
....when people still could feel shame.

Look at how our leaders face shame today:

DeLay to announce re-election bid today

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1997672

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arrogant & defiant b*stard......
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:14 PM
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13. If the GOP/RNC/WH spent half the time implementing the recommendations of
the 911 commission that they do attacking Democrats, then they MIGHT begin to gain some small amount of credibility.

Oh, and they'd also have to stop lying all the time.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 03:16 AM
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15. no surprise
HEY KIDDIES - it's time to play "SMEAR THE MESSENGER/CRITIC"!
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 04:55 AM
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16. Conyers said, the Repub party would attack him...
"War On Terra" - wouldn't be having one IF * had done his job to begin with.
John Conyers, a true patriot! Nobody in this administration is fit to shine his shoes. For me, they are dirt under JC's feet.:patriot:
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 09:25 AM
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17. Conyers made it through Watergate with high marks. He'll be ok.
He is a more "credible source" on the war on terrorism as Bush, Cheney, Condi, Powell, Rumsfeld, and the rest of the neocons because Conyers hasn't lied to the nation.
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