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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:00 AM
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Time Magazine Persons of the Year: Bono, Bill & Melinda Gates
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 08:16 AM by win_in_06
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:03 AM
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1. Pretty good picks IMHO
Say what you will about Gates - he's using his wealth in a way which should shame the US government - helping the poor and sick of the world.
Bono is just wonderful for all he does for Third World poverty.
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:15 AM
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6. You say shame on the U.S. Govt, but our system of Capitalism
creates philanthropists like Gates, or at least, provides an environment where they can thrive.


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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:26 AM
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9. Our system of capitalism
Also tells the poor of the world to go f*** themselves.
0.6 % of GDP goes to foreign aid, we're pikers.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:51 AM
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12. How many of them create the biggest charity in the world and fund it
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 08:52 AM by ET Awful
with close to $30 billion of their own money?
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 09:16 AM
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14. Private giving is usually more efficient than public.
Even if the motivation is tax breaks, good PR or whatever. Look at what the evil Walmart accomplished:


"While state and federal officials have come under harsh criticism for their handling of the storm's aftermath, Wal-Mart is being held up as a model for logistical efficiency and nimble disaster planning, which have allowed it to quickly deliver staples such as water, fuel and toilet paper to thousands of evacuees."



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/05/AR2005090501598.html
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 09:35 AM
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16. Of course, but once again, how many of those philanthropists give
$30 billion of their own money (not their corporation's money) to create such a charity?
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 09:36 AM
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17. How many of them have $30 billion?
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 10:56 AM
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18. Okay, let me rephrase it, how many donate that large a percentage
of their own personal wealth?

Not many.
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:08 PM
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19. True. If all Americans (rich, poor or othewise) did that we wouldn't
need government assistance.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:07 AM
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2. Excellent
although I thought Cindy Sheehan would have been a good pick. She pulled the first card out of Bushco's house of cards.
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:09 AM
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3. I would have voted for Rep Murtha
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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:11 AM
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4. did POWERLIE win blog of the year again?
assholes
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:14 AM
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5. sounds good to me
Bill Gates is a criminal in business, but he's kind of like Robin Hood.

Why Melinda? Cause she sleeps with him?

Bono's cool, but should his friend Jesse Helms be selected too?
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:18 AM
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8. I thought it would be the CEO of Wal-Mart.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:27 AM
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10. Not bad at all.
I have my issues with Microsoft as do all of us but as a librarian I've dealt with the Gates Foundation and they are very, very good at what they do.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:51 AM
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11. I thought Bono was pretty much a given, there's been so much talk
about it, but the Bill and Melinda Gates thing seemed to come out of nowhere (at least for me).

I can't complain about the choice, not bad at all in my opinion.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:55 AM
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13. The man who ditched the dollar then mocked it?
How can the unpatriotic end up with such a prestigious position? :shrug:
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 09:17 AM
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15. The wealthy, and especially
the incredibly wealthy like the Gates' have a moral obligation to practice philanthropy. They need not be awarded, and should not be awarded "Persons of the Year" just because of their wealth.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:35 PM
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20. They could do so much less with it, though
He made that fortune, and didn't inherit it. Then he turns around and puts it to good and smart use.

I cannot fault him for that. And I think everyone has that moral obligation, not just the incredibly wealthy.

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