Was Bush using the NSA to spy on DEMOCRATS?

[Joanne98]

And if he was, will the cowardly, spineless Dems DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT?
I have no doubt Bush, Cheney and Rove have been wiretapping the phones of their political opposition. These are the same people who RIGGED THE VOTING MACHINES! We've been having FAKE elections for five years now. Bush hasn't been president one single day in his corrupt life. I have no doubt that Bush cronies in the NSA have been listening to members of Congress for YEARS now. Will the Dems finally wake up and put a stop to this "IN YOUR FACE" GOP crime wave? This isn't about the "war on terror" this is about the WAR ON AMERICANS. There's only one thing to do!
IMPEACH THE MOTHER FUCKER!!!!!!I know we aren't the majority BUT we can at least CALL for IMPEACHMENT hearings. I say let's get this show on the road. Better late than never.

[okieinpain]

1. that's is what I would like to see

[Bonhomme Richard]

2. As much as I can't stand McCain I often wondered.......

why he would kowtow to bush after what he did to McCain's family. I wouldn't put it past shrub to use whatever power he has to get something on an opponent.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

3. Yes!

I've never understood why a POW war hero would kiss ass so bad, after all that character assassination. It simply does not add up.

:grr:

[Joanne98]

4. I don't trust McCain. I can't really say why though...

Just a feeling...

[carpetbagger]

44. Well, he wants to be president.

To be president, he needs to win the GOP nomination. To do that, he needs to suck up to chimpy.

[Punkingal]

5. I thought I heard them say at some point yesterday....

That they had spyed on Democrats. I must have misunderstood.

[Jade Fox]

6. Probably....

Can you imagine what Rove used this tool for?

[Joanne98]

11. Is Rove spying on Fitzgerald? Now that's a thought.

[cassiepriam]

59. Yes. That is how Rove has managed to stay one step ahead of Fitz

Rove will do whatever it takes to stay above the law, and to maintain power.

[hwmnbn]

7. That was my first reaction too....

Nothing like knowing what the political opposition is planning to help you undermine them. They say 500-1000 people were spied upon. I call bullshit on that. If the members of congress were among them we have to know.

I wouldn't put it past them to have a nixon-style "enemies list" that they compiled.

It seems like it has caused a stir in DC, but lets see if that stir leads to something more substantial.

And the fucking New York Times!!!:mad:

[MissWaverly]

12. I read GWB has enemies list of 10,000 names

By DOUG THOMPSON - Publisher, Capitol Hill Blue

Nov 8, 2005 - Spurred by paranoia and aided by the USA Patriot Act, the Bush Administration has compiled dossiers on more than 10,000 Americans it considers political enemies and uses those files to wage war on those who disagree with its policies. The “enemies list” dates back to Bush’s days as governor of Texas and can be accessed by senior administration officials in an instant for use in campaigns to discredit those who speak out against administration policies or acts of the President. The computerized files include intimate personal details on members of Congress; high-ranking local, state and federal officials; prominent media figures and ordinary citizens who may, at one time or another, spoken out against the President or Administration.

http://forpressfound.blogspot.com/2005/11/enemy-of-state.html

[peaches2003]

18. Me?

Hopefully I'm on it. I consider myself a serious enemy of our Nazi dictator.

[MissWaverly]

20. Hey, I am sure they have a special list just for us

;-)

[0007]

62. No doubt about it, and I don't give a rats ass flying fuck.

[emald]

28. me too

I hope I'm on it. Proudly. GWB is our enemy, very real, very true. He is destroying america, with malice aforethought.

TAKE YOUR LIST, YOU INCOMPETENT MONKEY EARED FLATULENT ASSHOLE, SHOVE IT UP YOUR RECTUM AND GIVE HEAD TO YOUR OWNER TURDBLOSSOM.

[formercia]

21. I'm probably on it, but if not

would someone please send me a URL where I can request to be included. Thank You

[KansDem]

38. We could start our own website!

www.spyonmegeorge.com is not taken. We could post our names and request that George spy on us, like a badge of honor!

[formercia]

46. If everyone here suscribed

echelon would choke to a halt.

[Joanne98]

8. I bet the media's phones are tapped too.........

Maybe Fitzgerald will have something to say about the NSA SPYING on his investigation. You KNOW they are....

[Old and In the Way]

15. I'd bet that you are correct on your thinking.

Terrorists? doubtful....why not use the tools already available? Democrats? Maybe, but how big a threat are they?

Fitzgerald? Yeah, this would be something that is a real security threat....to the Republican Syndicate and this administration. They couldn't get a court order to spy on Fitzgerald, but they could cook up an internal justification and cover to use the resources available to listen in on the progress of the case. I don't doubt this for a moment.

[Joanne98]

23. The terrorists are the best thing that ever happened to them...

If they are spying on them at all, it's just to make sure nobody catches them. That's probably why we still can't find Osama. Rove probably lets him know when the military gets too close. "Hello Osama, this is Karl". "You got to move again, dude".

[hippiechick]

9. Say it loud, say it often: WATERGATE PART 2 !!!!!!

:nuke: :nuke:

[Gemini Cat]

25. Watergate Part 2 that's right!

They never learn!
:mad:

[FormerRepublican]

10. This is what I've been thinking, as well.

Der Fuehrer and Darth Cheney wouldn't be able to resist exerting illegal power over their foes. All we have to do is look at the pattern of abuse, and then you realize it's not much of a stretch to believe they spied on the political opposition.

Bushitler Rules of Administration:

Everything they say is a lie.
If they have a choice between crooked or honest, they choose crooked.
If it's illegal, cover it up and threaten people to keep it quiet.
Pay the press to sing your tune.
If anyone objects to a fascist state, accuse them of conspiring with Al Qaeda.
Spread money wisely to enhance your power.
Buy elections to keep your power.
Spit on the little guy and hope he dies.
Use the US military as your own personal army and PR fodder.
If you screw up, blame everyone else.
The only thing that matters is you, and destroying the country is OK as long as YOU benefit.
Make sure your cronies get big government contracts so they can kick it back to YOU (YOU are all important).
Despise anyone who doesn't worship YOU.
Silence all dissent in favor of what YOU want.
Destroy the Constitution to do what YOU want.
Protect people who worship YOU.
Ignore checks and balances as if they don't exist, and co-opt their power to benefit only YOU.
Ignore the needs of American citizens (like Katrina survivors - who are THEY?) to fulfill the needs of YOU.
If the law doesn't help, use torture.
Disappearing people is fun.

I could go on because the list is endless, but I think we all know what Bushitler is all about.

[Joanne98]

16. EXACTLY! You know them SOOOOOO well.

I bet they've gone bonkers! Spying on everybody and everything. Probably giggling the whole time. The whole "War on Terror" is nothing but an "opportunity" to them. That's how they think...

[Joanne98]

13. I bet the DNC's phones are tapped. They could have fun with that.

IF THEY WERE BRAVE ENOUGH!

[Al-CIAda]

14. After they Anthraxed Dems, spying on them is childs play. -nt

[Joanne98]

17. Yeah, and we keep forgetting about that don't we?

We're the Hell is the Antrax killer anyway? He just got clean anyway. Maybe he's hiding out with OBL.

[Al-CIAda]

26. The anthrax was determined to have come from a US military base

...and why was the Capital complex evacuated for days during this 'attack'? Some venture to say to root through Dem files and bug computers...

[Joanne98]

32. I forgot about them bugging the Dems computers...

[saberjet22]

19. Was Bush using the NSA to spy on DEMOCRATS

Time's up. Out with you, George. Now you've committed a clearly impeachable crime and you've got to go! Every good American, regrdless of party, should pull together to get this tiny-brained dictator wannabe impeached. NOW! IMPEACH HIM NOW!

[Joanne98]

24. Welcome to DU!

[hwmnbn]

35. Hi saberjet22, welcome to DU...

:hi:

[emald]

22. the Resident * is a monkey eared

dumb shit who couldn't spell his own name without a primer.

I'm so mad I just simply can't put my frustration into words anymore. This bushitler whore that pontificates about his own importance belongs in prison, first for being a deserter, than for all the other crimes against the people of the US.

IMPEACH and IMPRISON NOW! He has admitted his own crimes. He lies just as easily as talking. His honor is non existent. He is scum. Like all of his ilk if you take away the false front of coiffed and well attired appearance underneath is nothing but rot, stink and filth.

History will not be kind to GWB. His own biological father must understand what a failure his son is, and what a failure that insinuates to his blood line.

Hitler and Bush's worked together and gave us WWII. Now that same damned family is continuing a fascist state of affairs.

IMPEACH THE CHIMP NOW!

[UrbScotty]

27. Was he spying on Dems? Let me ask you this:

Was George Washington the first President?

And about Dems standing up, did you see Durbin on MSNBC today?

[Joanne98]

30. No! What did he say?

[Joanne98]

29. This would help them in business too. Bidding for contacts....

Would be a BREEZE! No wonder "Old Europe's" GNP is FLAT! Maybe the EU should start an investigation. The UN too.

[ChiciB1]

31. I'm With You... BUT The Question Remains....

will the Dems DO ANYTHING???

I have yet to figure out just how and why these people keep getting away with all this corruption. Does anyone have a GOOD answer... it NEVER seems to stop??? And they've never had to answer for ANYTHING as yet!!! I've been so frustrated for so long that I generally just listen to the stuff and say, Oh Well!!

Not one to sit on the sidelines in the past, I've come to a place where it's almost Ho-Hum anymore. I've tried on so many occasions to sign petitions, write letters, call Congressmen, join groups, march and do whatever I've felt would be of some use, but it still NEVER stops. So what's next?? Stand on our heads and spit WOODEN NICKLES???

America has been hijacked and fleeced and very few are doing very much about it!! A Super Power?? Only if you live in the WH or if you follow right behind them!! It's nothing more than a Monarchy anymore... Gee perhaps we should go back to England!!! At least they have "question time" over there!

[Joanne98]

33. I know what you mean. I don't sign anything anymore either..

I used to do it all. Sign petions, e-mail everyone but now I just say FUCK IT! Even Howard Dean is getting muzzled. It's so depressing. We need a leader. A big LOUD one.

[Joanne98]

34. You KNOW Hillary's phone is tapped.......

Since they think she's the Dems 2008 candidate.

[ChiciB1]

41. Hey, For All I Know... MY Phone Is Tapped!!

I haven't exactly been a wallflower!! This is pretty sick stuff we're dealing with here. Not only sick, but dangerous!

I'm feeling pretty speechless and I suppose that's EXACTLY where THEY want us! Our only recourse is another Revolution, which doesn't seem to be on the horizon. Forget Hillary, she's the least of MY worries... I'm not a supporter of hers anyway! She's who THEY want!!

At least she's in a position to open her TRAP about it, but WILL SHE?? I think not!!!

I still want to know where we need to go to find A DEMOCRACY these days!

[AzDar]

36. It's no coinkydink that Ted Kennedy ended up on the 'no-fly' list, imho.

ANYONE who disgrees with this "administration" is probably being spied on; can't have that pesky truth getting out, after all...

[Joanne98]

40. They're probably spying on Republicans too......

To make sure their towing the line.. You think someone in the Republican Party would think about that.

[AzDar]

45. You are probably right. Very Nixon-esque, this whole thing. Reminds

me of (I believe) a Kinks' song..."Paranoia will destroy ya"...

[Joanne98]

37. Dennis Kuchinich said something.....That's one! Go Dennis.

[Joanne98]

39. Condi saz Bush within the law. Doesn't she have someone to

TORTURE somewhere?

Condi Rice pushed back this morning on the Today show and, shock of shocks, defended the president's secret order.

"I'm not going to comment on intelligence matters," she told NBC's "Today" show. But Rice did say that President Bush "has always said he would do everything he can to protect the American people, but within the law, and with due regard for civil liberties because he takes seriously his responsibility."
"The president acted lawfully in every step that he has taken," Rice said, "to defend the American people and to defend the people within his constitutional responsibility."

I think Condi TALKS too fucking much....

[AntiCoup2K4]

42. If I'm not on their list, I would be very disappointed

I've hated the Bush Criminal Empire for 25 years. I deserve to be on your enemies list, you fucking nazi bastards! :grr:

[Catchawave]

43. Aha! The "war on terra" would include

...those treasonous, unpatriotic DEMOCRATS ! Or anybody else who doesn't agree with BushCo !

[jrd200x]

47. Bush: Do you believe ME or your LYING EYES?

His admission to this illegal act is stunning. But the way he did it is classic Republican.

A Democrat would have admitted it and said it was wrong, apologized, and then submit themselves to the roasting by the RW media. Not Bush.

He says, "I FUCKED YOU AND IT FELT GOOD. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?"

[gristy]

48. They only spy on communications of known terrorist suspects

They don't spy on Democrats, whose crime is only that they hate America and don't watch what they say... :mad:

[mopinko]

49. wasn't that the bolton nomination objection?

iirc, the documents that the dems were holding out for were nsa records on dems. someone correct me if i am wrong.

[nashville_brook]

50. the ground is moving with this issue.

finally.

[No Exit]

51. Is the Pope Catholic?

[TankLV]

56. or - more precicely, is the Pope a NAZI?

duhhhh....

[No Exit]

61. LOL! Everyone's a nazi now!

It's what we're supposed to be! It's the only party left to join! It's so great trampling all our enemies! What fun!

[wiley]

52. It's Time for Impeachment and Incarceration for Bush

and his cronies. Enough Already.

[Hyernel]

53. We should assume that they bugged every Kerry camp phone & computer.

It should become common public knowledge.

[TankLV]

54. Of that I have no doubt that THESE were the PRIMARY targets.

Don't forget the stolen (democratic only) computer hard drives; closed door voting (keeping dems out because the repukes already had enough votes); and REPUKE only WH briefings that continue to this day.

That is just the top three I can think of.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

55. Al Gore was stopped at the airport... that would be related to this.

n/t

[welshTerrier2]

57. perhaps there's an 18 and 1/2 minute gap

this whole thing's starting to sound a little too much like Watergate ...

Congress should subpoena any recordings made in the Oval office ... unless the Congress is given access to bush's recordings, as they were given access to Nixon's, the American people will never know what laws have been broken ...

the burden should be on those who broke the law to prove that they did not use illegal surveillance to corrupt the political process ...

[cassiepriam]

58. Bingo, why else circumvent the court system?

Was never about terrorists, about spying on opponents.
This is about Rove getting information to defeat opponents.

[Maine-ah]

60. HEY GEORGIE BOY!!!

HERE I AM!!! PUT ME ON YOUR LIST!!!!:patriot:

[JPZenger]

63. Misusing Fed Agencies - One of Main Reasons Why Nixon Was almost Removed

Nixon only resigned because his top supporters in Congress told him they would vote for his impeachment and removal from office. The main charges against Nixon were that he used Federal government agencies (including the FBI, the CIA and IRS) to harass and spy upon his political enemies and to cover up wrong-doing by Administration officials.