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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:05 PM
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Just tried to watch ...
... the Idiot-in-Chief on PBS (being carried here in Toronto now, ^;0 p.m. EST).

Just couldn't sit through it. Bush kept reiterating, "When it comes to Iraq, of course we have a plan for success, of course we have a plan for victory."

Obvious question NOT asked by Lehrer: "And millions of people are watching, Mr. President, so why don't you share that 'plan' with all of us right now?"

As is always the case when Chimpy tries to explain himself, those poll numbers are dropping even as we speak ...

Anyone else try to watch this garbage, and couldn't take it?

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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:15 PM
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1. I can't watch him....
Hell, I can't even listen to him. Turn the volume off on the radio when he's on.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:17 PM
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2. The Plaid Adder posted this yesterday; bears repeating.
The good news, and the bad news


The good news is, Bush's poll numbers are never going back up. They may bounce anemically once in a while, but I think we'll see him bottom out at 30 and never recover.

The bad news is, that's because they got NOTHIN'.

I remember when we first invaded Iraq, and I was listening to the talking heads explain how it was going to work. I was sure they were lying. "We will be welcomed as liberators? That's our PLAN? No way. That can't be. They must have some other plan that they're just not telling us about cause it's too diabolical."

Nope. That was their plan. Their plan was, "We drop the house on Saddam, and then the little Iraqchkins run out and sing 'Ding Dong, the Tyrant's Dead,' and we get presents from the Lullaby League and the Lollipop Guild, and then we click our heels 3 times and we're gone."

Hawks, Republicans, children of all ages, I hate to break it to you, but...the reason things are as they are in Iraq right now is that the President DOES NOT HAVE A STRATEGY FOR IRAQ. Not only that, but HE CANNOT COME UP WITH ONE. Why? Because the fact that the Iraq war happened at all proves that this administration cannot learn. "Hey! I know how to respond to this new and terrifying adversary! Let's invade our old arch-nemesis whose regime had fuck-all to do with 9/11!"

It does not matter how many speeches Bush gives or in front of how many backdrops. There never was a plan, there is no plan, and there will never be a plan. Plenty of wishful thinking, but no plan. They cannot devise a strategy for victory, or even a strategy for withdrawal. There is no original thought left inside that bubble.

Same thing on the economy and on everything else. They are rigidly committed to a set of principles which just do not fucking work, and even though they now no longer like the results, they cannot change the outcome because they literally do not know what else to do.

On the bright side, we may see Bush become the least popular American president EVER. On the less bright side...the people in charge of our country don't have a goddamn clue about how to get us out of any of this.

It's gonna get worse before it gets better. I sure hope it gets a LOT better, cause the worse is gonna be pretty bad.

:scared:

The Plaid Adder
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:27 PM
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5. It did bear repeating ...
... and thanks for doing so!
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 08:06 PM
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10. Love the Wizard of Oz analogy!
Edited on Fri Dec-16-05 08:36 PM by Marie26
That's so perfect. And I think it truly about sums up what the Administration's attitude was. Wilkerson has come out & said they thought they could capture Saddam, install Chalabi, & go home in a couple months. Just click your heels... :eyes: I watched the whole interview, even though it wasn't easy. Even when Bush isn't annoying me, he's just hard to listen to. Umm...ah...smirk..blink...jaw jerk. He seemed disjointed & anxious. The biggest news was that he flat-out refused to talk about the NSC spying on Americans, or Novak's allegation that Bush knows the CIA case leaker. Jim Lehrer actually did a really good job pressing him on these questions, & about Iraq.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 09:35 PM
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12. I think the wh was/is in a panic mode this afternoon.
Many people have suggested this could be an impeachable offense, spying on citizens with no oversight. The Times' bombshell also completely removed the story about the voting "success" in Iraq.
And dimson is very hard to watch and listen to when you realize he's supposedly representing us. :scared:
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snowbird42 Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:18 PM
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3. Ive been trying but its sick
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:21 PM
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4. What I think is that it is obvious
that he can't speak "off the cuff" without screwing the speech up. I also think that many eyes are being opened as we speak.

I am becoming cautiously optimistic.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:29 PM
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6. No can do.....
* is hazardous to my health.
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:34 PM
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7. I saw him for about a minute the other night...
...on Christmas in Washington, hosted by...ecchhh...Dr. Phil, and I was amazed by a couple things: 1) the black guy sitting next to him -- oh, yeah, GW's hangin' with his homey -- and what appeared to be a mixed-race kid sitting next to Laura, and 2) the glazed, delusional look in his eyes (and the ever-present sneer on his ridiculous-looking face) as he tapped his no doubt arrhythmic feet to the Christmas carols being sung. Then I got to the remote, and he went away...finally!!!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:43 PM
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8. Karl is in overdrive before his indictment
get that Chimp to dance while you can, Rove!
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 08:15 PM
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11. He Is Figuring Out How The Media Will Explain Away His Pardon
Bush** will pardon Rove, of course. Rove has been busy writing the
talking points justifying the pardons for the faux newshounds.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:45 PM
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9. I chose not to watch him, because I knew I couldn't...
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