Sam Seder scores a confirmed kill in the War on Christmas

[quaoar]

This is fabulous. Seder rocks. He was on CNN today debating a witless repuke:

The whole transcript is here:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0512/12/lol.03.html

And here is a video clip:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/12/12.html#a6285

SEDER: Listen, as far as the war on Christmas goes, I feel like we should be waging a war on Christmas. I mean, I believe that Christmas, it's almost proven that Christmas has nuclear weapons, can be an imminent threat to this country, that they have operative ties with terrorists and I believe that we should sacrifice thousands of American lives in pursuit of this war on Christmas. And hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer money.

PHILLIPS: Is it a war on Christmas, a war Christians, a war on over-political correctness or just a lot of people with way too much time on their hands?

SEDER: I would say probably, if I was to be serious about it, too much time on their hands, but I'd like to get back to the operational ties between Santa Claus and al Qaeda.

PHILLIPS: I don't think that exists. Bob? Help me out here.

SEDER: We have intelligence, we have intelligence.

PHILLIPS: You have intel. Where exactly does your intel come from?

SEDER: Well, we have tortured an elf and it's actually how we got the same information from Al Libbi. It's exactly the same way the Bush administration got this info about the operational ties between al Qaeda and Saddam.

< go to the link for the entire conversation >

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

1. "...tortured an elf..."

Classic.

[xchrom]

2. lol -- indeed.

[jedr]

5. elves are notoriously unreliable and need to be tortured for;

any reliable information. they have been trained and sworn to secrecy at a undisclosed training camps in the north pole. Our country's future is a stake here!!!:sarcasm:

[iconoclastNYC]

24. Remember : Bush told us Elves are trained to disassemble.

[Pachamama]

11. Hysterical! Seder gets an A++ for showing what a ridiculous conversation

this whole "War on Christmas" question is....

He did a classic answer a stupid question with a stupid answer...j

Although, I have to say, his answer was far from stupid...it emphasized the ridiculousness of the Far Right....

[FreedomAngel82]

18. So funny

Even my dad laughed. LOL.

[Garbo 2004]

58. Yeah, I lost it & just about fell off my chair at "we tortured an elf." nt

[AtomicKitten]

3. well done.

commando politics.

[quaoar]

6. I had long suspected

that there was an elf insurgency responsible for the War on Christmas.

[Pirate Smile]

4. Hilarious - Nominated.

I'm downloading the link from Crooks and Liars but it is taking forever. I think we are all downloading it at the same time.

[quaoar]

7. If you go to the CNN transcript

it's probably halfway down.

[MalachiConstant]

8. wow, funny stuff

i wonder how many people thought he was serious? funny stuff




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[Al-CIAda]

9. Sam is hilarious! 5 stars bud...5 stars. -nt

[FreedomAngel82]

19. I love listening to Sam

The Majority Report is one of my favorite's. I love how Sam handles the freepers and silly stuff like that.

[Elidor]

10. That is the funniest, most devastating thing I've heard in ages

A real keeper.

[radio4progressives]

12. I have to say that Sam scored huge points in my esteem for him

in this clip - it was absolutely fabulous - he nailed that stupid idiot to the cross.

Go Sam!

[robbedvoter]

13. gets a "most improved AAR host from me"! His Koch interview last year

made me cringe and gnash my teeth - but he certainly owned this entire show - go Seder!

[FreedomAngel82]

20. I think so too

I think him doing stuff on his own, like when he fills in for someone else on AAR and Jeanane being on the "West Wing," has helped him a lot. He's really grown as a host and has become a quick favorite of mine.

[buddysmellgood]

14. Sam rocks. He had that bafoon arguing out of both side of his ass. First

he says there is a war on Christmas, then he says 80 percent of us have no problem with Merry Christmas. So who is attacking whom? What bullshit. The faux christians are attacking Christmas spreading hate and division during the Holydays. Happy Holydays everyone.

[FreedomAngel82]

21. It does show the hypocriacy

Stephen Colbert has shown that too earlier on his show where he was talking about us Christians being "persecuted" and in the Word he put "all 80% of them." Heh heh.

[ComerPerro]

28. Exactly. "We can't say Merry Christmas" and "No one minds"

WTF? If that many Americans don't have a problem with Merry Christmas, then who the hell is oppressing them?

[ClintonTyree]

46. Christians are ALWAYS oppressed.....

didn't you get the memo? They won't be happy until the government of the United States is a total theocracy. Until then we "Nazis" who don't believe in fairy tales will constantly oppress them. :eyes:
And why the hell is a man the spokes-person for "Concerned Women of America"? :wtf: I guess they don't think the "ladies" place is on the TV screen, they should be home baking bread, tending to the children and making sure that her man's "castle" is ready when he gets home from a tough day of over-seeing the sweatshop. :puke:
I'm getting VERY sick of this poor, oppressed Christian stuff. Aren't they supposed to pray quietly and not make a spectacle of themselves in front of everyone? :shrug:

[rniel]

64. 80% is not a minority

They want to say they are a horribly persecuted minority group that is treated so unfairly in this country

80% of americans ARE christian so it is just a bunch of BS trying to manipulate voters

They act like they have to go to separate bathrooms and sit in special sections of the bus and regularly at night atheists go around and lynch a few of them in the night. It's hilarious.

[rman]

67. Well, re pubs have election turnouts of more then 100%

In their world 80% probably is a minority.

The "Christians are being prosecuted, all 80% of 'm" kills the whole issue stone dead.

[jarnocan]

15. thank you so much! He is

GREAT!
Happy Hopeful Holidays!


http://www.wftv.com/irresistible/5492751/detail.html here is a stupid poll that relates-which greeting to you prefer? ugh. the article is about a couple making $$$ selling bracelets-exploitng the silly folks IMHO.

[WillyT]

16. Nominated, Kicked, And Thanks !!!

:bounce::hi::bounce:

[stevedeshazer]

17. Sam was great

I haven't always liked Majority Report, but he just whacked that guy. That was awesome. K & R

[Nutmegger]

22. That guy got shalacked!

Majority Report rocks! :silly: :applause: :rofl:

[Maraya1969]

23. Did you hear at the end when Phillips brought up Hitler as a comparison

to the war on Christmas KNOWING that Seder is JEWISH.

Seder got upset at that point and I don't blame him one bit. It upset me and I think I'm going to write a note to that "christian" that has no respect for other people

And they wonder why people are starting to hate them!!

[sabra]

25. that was very tasteless and uncalled for by Phillips

but I am not too surprised. Seder rocked!!

[Kurovski]

52. Kyra Phillips didn't bring it up,

It was Knight who chose to joust in that manner...

"PHILLIPS: Bob, I'm going to let you have the final thought.

KNIGHT: OK. You know, when the Nazis moved into Austria in 1936...

SEDER: Oh, that's offensive, Bob, to raise Nazis. "

[sabra]

54. my bad, check that, make it Knight... :-)

thanks

[Kurovski]

56. You got it, kiddo. :-)

I think it's great that Phillips had Seder on. She surely knew what was coming...

Almost a statement on the comically absurd proportions of Knight's crusade.

[othermeans]

50. Apparently all he knows about the Trapp family he got from the movies

The Trapp family left Austria before Hitler even came to power. All that Nazi stuff was added to the movie for dramatic effect.

[ComerPerro]

26. That's great

[SheepyMcSheepster]

27. Kudos to Sam

he was spectacular. This is the way to handle these people.

[crispini]

29. OMG! That one guy pulled a Godwin!

Went right for the Nazi comparison! Dude, YOU LOSE! :eyes:

[ComerPerro]

30. And here is where Seder tears him completely apart:

SEDER: This may come as a shock to you, Bob, but I don't consider Jesus the messiah. If you're going to ask me to praise Jesus, I'm going to be a little offended.


and, further down


SEDER: You don't care about the people who don't celebrate Christmas, fine. But I don't celebrate Christmas and I don't care. So, why are we wasting everybody's time? It's so that you can fund raise, that's why Bob. And I think you know that's true.

Immediately after that, Knight called him a Nazi...

[smoogatz]

32. Ridicule is the best way to answer these sanctimonious blowhards

Truth-telling works, too--and Seder did both. Knight was completely stumped for most of the segment; Seder was running rings around him. Hats off to Mr. Seder, says I.

[NewWaveChick1981]

31. That's hysterical!

Score one for intelligence! I love it when an irrational repuke gets put in his/her place. :)

[AllyCat]

33. Oh this is just rich!

Thanks Sam for telling it like it is! I like how he takes Faux News, the Bushes, and Bob Knight to task on this. He does a good job of making sure people know he is not the opponent.

Way to go Sam!

[King Coal]

34. This was the main snark.

KNIGHT: These businesses are taking millions and millions of dollars in from Christians, in particular, and others who celebrate Christmas, giving gifts in the name of the Christmas season, and yet they're so worried about offending people like my opponent here that they don't want to mention the word Christmas. People are sick and tired.

SEDER: Bob, it's the holiday time, I'm not your opponent.

KNIGHT: Yes, you are. Yes, you are.

(Here it comes.)
SEDER: I do agree with Bob. I think what should happen is companies should calculate how much money they're getting from people who are celebrating Christmas and provide exactly that much amount of Merry Christmas, because that is exactly how I would want any type of religious holiday to be celebrated.

[Mad_Dem_X]

45. That's awesome! I love Sam

I love hearing him tear apart neocons!

[Thorandmjolnir]

35. Knight was also wrong about the Nazis

The Nazis were not against Christmas. What they wanted to do was to turn all holidays and major public events into something supportive of the Nazi movement.

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/feier37.htm

[Donovan61]

36. This is good stuff

Seder did a twofer, he smacked the Bush Kool-Aid drinkers for their pro-war propaganda as well as these so-called Christians and their phony war on Christmas. It was brilliant! I want to see more of this guy.

[newyawker99]

65. Hi Donovan61!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[stubtoe]

37. I love it where he says "Don't cut and run from the war on Christmas."

[No DUplicitous DUpe]

40. Yes, that was a great line!

Kick!

[Nimrod2005]

38. It always works when people are plain spoken, simple statement

of facts....Are you listening politicians?

[butterfly77]

42. I'll second that one...

[Dunvegan]

39. Seder was brilliant, and just like the other two participants...

...in that segment, Seder's searing commentary will arc across the heads of most of the Kool-Ade drinkers at supersonic speed.

You are a true believer. Blessings of the state. Blessings of the masses.
Thou art a subject of the divine. Created in the image of man, by man, for man.

Work hard; increase production; prevent accidents, and be happy.

Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy more and be happy.

Let us be thankful we have an occupation to fill.

---Voice on omnipresent screen, THX 1138

[No DUplicitous DUpe]

41. "Sam Seder scores a confirmed kill in the War on Christmas"...

One of the best titles to a thread I have seen, quaoar.

I guess the admins liked your post too...top of the front page. And a video link
well worth (waiting for and) watching!

And thanks Sam.

[quaoar]

44. Thanks

[Loonman]

43. Wow, Kyra is a real

Jerk.

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

47. STOP IT!

What is missing in this war on Christmas is perspective. People with democratic values will continue to lose the overall propaganda war the christian right uses because seeing the forest through all the baiting doesn't allow for any trees. It's called BRAINWASHING, ONE SOUL AT A TIME. The RW uses Abortion, Gay Marriage/Unions, The Pledge of Allegiance, The Ten Commandments, and now Christmas to stir the hearts of the vulnerable to buy into the notion that the downfall of civilization is at hand if you let those unpatriotic people persuade you to listen to them instead of us God-fearing carriers of the Constitution. It matters not if it's a lie, it's ALL about the Lie. One Heart, One Soul at a time. (GWB)
STOP! When we look beyond the words they use and the arguments they start and the messages we hear, we will hear the true message they spread. Continuing to argue with their talking points leaves little time and energy to defeat the real Monster.
:grr: :argh: :tinfoilhat: :banghead: :think:

[rman]

60. Welcome to DU and thanks

for the interesting contribution.

[newyawker99]

66. Hi Sees Clearly!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Fovea]

48. In some far away afterlife

Jonathon Swift is smiling down on Sam Seder.

Thank you Sam, for de-pantsing this little lump of schmaltz in the public square.

[Kurovski]

49. At last, a real plan to win the war.

Seder is my commander in chief!

[tishaLA]

51. "How else would Bob Knight get on television?"

If it weren't for the war on Christmas.

[Kurovski]

53. Well, he could get on TEEVEE if he joins the

Republican Indictment Club--you know, money-laundering, soliciting minors--that sort of thing.

[Larkspur]

55. If Jesus were alive today, he'd call Bob Phillips & the zealots HYPOCRITES

and a Brood of Vipers. Jesus had scorn for the religious hypocrites of his day and I'm sure he'd have it for the religious hypocrites of today.

[sonias]

57. Seder scored big

He was fantastic. Right on target. Bob Knight sounded so lame. And immediately when he gets in trouble, he knows he's sounding lame, he brings up Nazis. That was very offensive and insensitive to Seder, who is Jewish. Bob is an asshat.

(edited to fix name)

Sonia

[Rebelry]

59. Thanks for the smile. I loved it!

[motocicleta]

61. Sammy dropped a bomb on that poor maroon!

The frog-faced little monkey didn't know what hit him. Why are you wasting our time? So you can fund raise ...
that's about the long and the short of it.

[Dr Fate]

62. Hold on- wouldn't that be the War on the War on the War on Christmas?

???

[Norrin Radd]

63. So, Bob, are you saying that you are tolerant of open expressions of

beliefs other than Christianity?

"BOB KNIGHT, CULTURE AND FAMILY INSTITUTE: Well, first I want to compliment him on his dry humor, but this is actually a very serious subject, because a lot of people are waking up to realize that the war on Christmas is really the culmination of a war on faith and the idea that the public square has to be cleansed of any religious expression, particularly Christian religious expression..."

Any? Yeah, right! I'm so sure that fundy Christians would welcome a Winter Solstice display on the public square. Oh, wait--they appropriated all of those symbols for Christmas. How about fundy Christians supporting celebrations of the other Celtic festivals, equinoxes, and Summer Solstice on the public square? Didn't think so.

"...And it's actually insulting when you're talking about Christmas day or a Christmas tree and you can't bring yourself to use the word for fear of offending someone. In the name of diversity we're a less free country when that happens."

Uh? What, "Big Brother" Bob? I'm totally confused now.

[Mike_The_Computer]

68. That was gold baby, sold GOLD!

Now that's how you do it

[PegDAC]

69. I called Sam

and let him know that he had major good press here. I guess he hadn't heard it yet, but he was very appreciative.

:D :toast: :party: :beer: :thumbsup: :hi: :loveya: