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carrowsboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:46 PM
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What Has America Come To?
When a shitty actor turned Governor can decide who lives & dies.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:47 PM
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1. It's like I'm taking crazy pills
Life imitating art...imitating life?
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:48 PM
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2. Hey, he wasn't that bad in T2
as for the rest of your statement, I couldn't agree more :(
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:01 AM
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11. Check him out in


billed as Arnold Strong. His greatest role, because he DOESN'T OPEN HIS FUCKING MOUTH.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:52 PM
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3. The death penalty can never be administered "fairly." This proves it.
Somewhere this week a child is beaten to death. Somewhere a wealthy person gets away with a felony. "Fairness" and justice are separate things. Anonymous people put to death without the support given to Tookie are often more deserving of survival, yet what does "deserving" mean to the families of their victims? I agree with Gov. Edgar, corrupt as he was. There is no way to redeem the death penalty. It can never be administered evenhandedly. By definition. So, do away with it, not for its potential victims, but for us, a society that does not need this agony.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:52 PM
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4. Nothing new
Happened back in the 80's, only the Actor was President & sent 200 Marines to their deaths in Beirut. We won't even talk about all the people that died because of AIDS during this time period because this said Actor (President) refused to act.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:52 PM
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5. Well, it happened in the 80s when a shitty actor turned Governor turned
President arranged the delay of the release of the hostages in Iran for his own political purposes.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:58 PM
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6. Judging by his movies, he usually decides who dies. nt.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:00 PM
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7. i never even liked him as an actor. n/t
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:04 PM
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8. Y'know the feeling you have when you're waking from a nightmare?
In those first few seconds of wakefulness, you're not sure if you were having a horrible dream or if it really happened. There's a feeling of unreality to it. I've been waiting for my alarm to go off for five years.
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Razzy Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:24 PM
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9. Not entirely his decision
Well, Arnold doesn't exactly get to choose who lives or dies. He can only decide if the court ruling is revised or not. The decision of who dies is up to the court & its jury.

It seems to me that Arnold decided to trust the court & let Tookie be executed.

Arnold can't pick people off the street & decide if they die or not. It's far more complicated... If someone like Tookie is suspected of committing a crime he will be tried & if found guilty, possibly executed. Sorry, but in my opinion, this post is misleading.

Now, of course whether using the death penalty is right or wrong can be debated, but I think we should cut Arnold some slack.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:26 AM
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12. He could've saved him and didn't.
Your post is misleading.

Largely due to the bad hangover of Nazism, the DP is FAR from a mainstream idea in Europe. Arnold's name has even been expunged from the stadium in his hometown of Graz (where his dad happened to be a Nazi police chief).

In a European/Austrian context, support for the DP is equal to unreconstituted Nazism.

Arnold is a Nazi and I will cut him no "slack."
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Bob Smith jr Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:57 AM
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10. Straight to HELL
Straight to HELL

I never seen the look of hate on everybodies faces.This is bad,
I hope we can get rid of bush before he destroyes us all
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