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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 01:55 PM
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Jim Dean will deliver the letter to Lieberman tomorrow....
So if you have not signed, now is the time. 40,000 have signed it so far.

http://tools.democracyforamerica.com/petition/telljoe/

Tell Sen. Joe Lieberman:
Debate Is Patriotic

Dear Senator Lieberman,

Recently you said, "It's time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge he'll be commander-in-chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war we undermine presidential credibility at our nation's peril."

I disagree. The First Amendment enumerates our right "to petition the government for a redress of grievances." If Americans don't challenge a president who is bankrupting our treasury, destroying our moral leadership and jeopardizing our national security then we fail as patriots.

Senator Lieberman: As a member of the "world's greatest deliberative body," it's time you stopped trying to stifle debate and instead become part of the solution by joining the majority of Americans in questioning President Bush's foreign policy.

Respectfully,

Jim Dean
Chair, Democracy for America


Jim's home is in CT, so not so far for him to deliver personally.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 01:57 PM
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1. 3 more yrs?
Well maybe if he,s not impeached after the 06 landslide>
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:01 PM
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2. Three looooooooong years
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BlueAwards Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:19 PM
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19. That's the attitude!
Let's focus on winning elections!!! That's where the difference will be made.
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adarling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:02 PM
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3. signed-n/t
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:05 PM
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4. Jim is also from Fairfield county, where Lieberman grew up
I signed the letter the first day it was publicized. I added the Teddy Roosevelt quote and from todays reminder, sounds like a lot of folks did too.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:07 PM
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5. Kick.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:08 PM
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6. signed and nominated. n/t
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:10 PM
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7. I wish someone would educate us about the impact of these letters.
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 02:11 PM by patrice
I've heard that they are weighed less than individual emails, letters and phonecalls, because they are so easy to sign, but I think they may have an effect that is different from the other forms of input and still valuable. It would be good for someone who knows about this to give us some info.

People in office must calculate the relationship between whatever input their looking at and somekind of consequence to them. Is there something we can do to attach more consequences to our signatures and make that fact clear to recipients like Lieberman? Obviously some consequence other than $$ or votes, which are not always relevant to every signature.

BTW, I did sign and I probably always will. I just hope someone actually reads and evaluates the input.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:12 PM
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9. I think it means more if it comes from a party big wig
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:10 PM
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8. I can't wait for him to leave our party
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:18 PM
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10. DFA is doing great work. Glad to see 40,000 signatures!
n/t
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:32 PM
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11. Breakfast magnate Jim Dean? Love his sausages!
and his cameo in "Diamonds are Forever"! ;)



Sorry, couldn't resist... <wink>

Signed and supported, of course! Lieberman needs a bit of tough love.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:42 PM
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12. what I added...
If there is any one common bond between Democrats, it is certainly the love of the U.S. Constitution. To suggest that it undermines a president's crediblilty to question the policies of the American government does far more undermining than disagreeing with a president.

I am very disappointed in your latest comments directed at fellow Democrats.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 03:05 PM
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13. Maybe Jim Dean should consider a primary challenge to Joe?
of course Chairman Dean would have to be officially neutral.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 03:12 PM
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14. He has most definitely said no way.
But I think others are talking about running against him. I can't think of the name.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:37 PM
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22. I think CCAG group is talking with a couple CT citizens
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 04:38 PM by Larkspur
One's a buisnessman from Fairfield. The other, I don't know. The email on got on this info is at home.

CCAG's web site is http://www.ccag.net/
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 03:33 PM
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15. Signed it last week
And added a few comments of my own.

Unlike some others, I don't want to "kick Joe out of the party"... I want him to start acting like a Democrat, or at least refrain from stabbing us in the back.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 03:39 PM
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16. I agree with Lieberman

The manner in which this president has undermined the credibility of that office *does* imperil this country.


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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:25 PM
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20. I signed today and my added comments...
We can't undermine Bush's credibility as president more than what Bush has already done!! And Lieberman's ass wiping doesn't make Bush a better president either.

The Constitution starts out with "We the People of the United States. NOT Me the President of the United States.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 03:44 PM
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17. I signed and wrote this...
Senator Lieberman,

I recall running into you in mid-September 2003. You probably don't remember me, but I remember you clearly. I was impressed to see you face-to-face. After that I followed your words during the Democratic primaries, and though you were not my man, I respected your views none-the-less. In the primaries you said -- and I paraphrase -- that it is our duty to question this president. Now you are singing a different tune. In fact, you've been squarely in the Bush camp for some time according to various opinions I've heard.

Senator, do us all a favor – do not run in 2006. Give weight to the rumors that have been floating around Washington as of late and join the Bush administration. Whatever you do, just get the hell out of the Democratic Party. We don't need you and we'd be far better off without your failed "Joementum."

Candidly,

*****************

Liberal Democrat
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:02 PM
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18. Signed and thanks! nt
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:37 PM
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21. Signed and thanks! n/t
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:37 PM
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23. Hey Joe! Let me jar your memory...
In our democracy, a president does not rule, he governs. He remains always answerable to us, the people. And right now, the president’s conduct of our foreign policy is giving the country too many reasons to question his leadership. It’s not just about 16 words in a speech, it is about distorting intelligence and diminishing credibility. It’s not about searching for scapegoats; it’s about seeing, as President Kennedy did after the Bay of Pigs, that presidents stand tall when they willingly accept responsibility for mistakes made while they are in charge.

Lieberman (D-CT) press conference 7-28-03 re: War in Iraq


Lying, treasonous rat bastard!:grr: :grr: :grr:
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:32 PM
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24. Received this letter in my inbox
I wonder if it will be delivered personally, d'ya know?

i'd love to be a fly on the wall on that encounter! A couple of snap shots would be nice too..

too bad we won't get to see anything like that though....
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 11:03 PM
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25. Signed and nominated.
Peace.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 11:47 PM
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26. Kick this thread.
Kick Joe to the curb!
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:13 AM
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27. Shit I don't even care if he doesn't question Bush's foreign policy
Edited on Tue Dec-13-05 12:13 AM by Hippo_Tron
As long as he steps aside and lets us do it without bitching about it.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:37 AM
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28. Good article on this letter from the Hartford Courant.
http://www.courant.com/news/nationworld/hc-lieberman1210.artdec10,0,7925476.story?coll=hc-headlines-nationworld

"A political group founded by Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean, and now headed by his brother, is trying to send a strong message to Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman: Stop urging others to back President Bush's war policies. In a survey of its estimated 9,000 Connecticut members this week, the group found 93 percent agreed that "Democracy for America should tell Sen. Lieberman to stop supporting Bush."

Tom Swan, a liberal activist in Connecticut familiar with DFA, said, "I think they want to put pressure on Joe to come back down to earth."

No party challenger has surfaced, but former Sen. Lowell P. Weicker Jr., whom Lieberman defeated for his seat in 1988, said he would consider running as an anti-war candidate if no other credible candidate stepped forward.

Swan, the executive director of the Connecticut Citizen Action Group, said that liberals in Connecticut, himself included, are still seeking a Democratic challenger. He said he was aware of a Middletown lawyer and a Fairfield businessman who are seriously considering becoming candidates. The businessman could self-finance a campaign, Swan said.
In his letter to Lieberman, Jim Dean said he disagreed and that, "as a member of the `world's greatest deliberative body,' it's time you stopped trying to stifle debate and instead become part of the solution by joining the majority of Americans in questioning President Bush's foreign policy."

Jim Dean and his supporters plan to deliver the letter to Lieberman's office in Hartford Tuesday."

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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:42 AM
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29. Signed and commented!
:kick:
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 08:45 AM
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30. Signed--n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 11:48 AM
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31. This article says it will be delivered at 1:00 PM today.
I will just bet that took a lot of printing off.

http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?S=4237143&nav=3YeX
"Sen. Lieberman's stance on Iraq has riled up Democrats. Last week Democracy for America director Jim Dean, who is the brother of Democratic party chair Howard Dean, wrote the letter to Sen. Lieberman criticizing his call for those who oppose the war to "keep quiet and stop undermining the president's credibility."

The letter was posted on the Internet and signed by over 40,000 Democracy for America members.

Sen. Lieberman has said he is not surprised by his critics and that he respects differences of opinions about Iraq."

...."Democracy for America members will deliver their letter today at 1 o'clock".


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