Email from a repug: caution: not for the weak-stomached, but funny

[win_in_06]

An indication of how desperate the repugs really are.

At least I found it funny in an ironic way. Notice how they don't mention that Clinton (& Wes Clark) had ZERO casualties in Bosnia. Also, I believe Eisenhower got us started in Vietnam...

This is the lastest dropping of red state red meat. Help me poke more holes in it:

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"There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of January.....In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month
of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war torn country of Iraq.

FDR...led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of
112,500 per year.
Truman...finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of
18,334 per year.

John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.
Johnson...turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 Lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year.
Clinton...went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

In the two years since terrorists attacked us President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.

The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the
Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.

We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police
after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick killing a woman."

[tom swift]

1. E-mail

Funny,perhaps but also riddled with inaccuracies.
Germany declared war on us because of their treaty with Japan. (That and we did kind of support Britain but only with ships,planes,and materiel.)
North Korea invaded the South,and the response wasn't Truman's it was the UN led by the US. If the e-mailer was smart he'd stay awy from any Korea analogies. The UN had a few more members approving the action than the "coalition of the willing."
Viet-Nam in one sense was Churchill's fault. At the Tehran Conference and after, FDR wanted a trusteeship for VN (Stalin agreed) but Churchill thought it sent the wrong message with regard to the UK's various colonies. I'm just guessing that the e-mailer didn't read any of the Pentagon Papers. If he had, he'd know that from 1954 to 1959 when the VC began serious operations in the South, Congress approved a budget item every year that paid for the South VN army.

Well, you get the point,although I doubt he/she/it did.

[win_in_06]

2. Thanks, I already sent your observations to the sender

[sharp_stick]

3. Unoriginal republican idiocy

Do any of the republican, fundie stooges ever come up with something original. This idiotic tripe as poked apart by the concise and well written first reply has been flying around rightie email lists since about 6 months after our dip-shit loser in chief attacked Iraq.

[Divernan]

4. US military "unofficially" in Nam as "advisors" BEFORE Kennedy elected.

John Kennedy was in Milwaukee, campaigning for the presidency, while I was in college there. That same year, friends of mine in NROTC (Navy ROTC, plus those with the option to join the Marines), were repeating that their Marine officer instructors told them that some U. S. Marines, while officially stationed in India, were actually carrying out missions in a country called Vietnam (that was the first time I recall hearing about Vietnam).

I received this same email piece of crap, and I also heard some 40-something, very wealthy, Bushbot, complaining that the American public and press were such whiners to complain about a measly 2,000 or so US troops being killed in Iraq, because look how many hundreds of thousands of troops were killed during WW II before the US won THAT war. So did I miss the part where all of those Iraqi panzer divisions started rolling across their neighbors' borders and all those Iraqi U-boat wolfpacks have been sinking transAtlantic shipping? And for the gazillionth time, you ignorant lurking freepers, there were NO Iraqis among the hijackers on 9/11. Those guys' passports were largely from Saudi Arabia, home of the Bush family's best friends, the Saudi royal family.

[Dawgs]

5. Did you remind him that 9/11 happened when Bush was President,...

Bush isn't going after Osama, and there have been more terrorist attacks in the world since Bush started his war "on terrorism".

[BlueIris]

6. ACK! I'm so sick of the "Democrats started the wars" talking points.

Especially when they're so...dorkily presented as in that e-mail. SICK. During the campaign days, I encountered SO. MANY. "Ex" Republicans (voting Kerry 'cause they didn't want to get drafted). blathering like idiots about how "it's not that I have that much in JK to get out of Iraq--a Democrat was president during the start of all five of the last wars." Stupid.

[win_in_06]

7. "Stuck on Stupid" to quote LTG Honore'

[zbdent]

8. Point #1

I thought that Repukes said that the Dems were soft on fighting Communism. I guess then that the wars against the Commie Regime were bogus, right?

Korea, Vietnam

[Canuckistanian]

9. Now Osama has been "offered" THREE times

That number keeps growing all the time.

[zbdent]

10. Point #2

39 combat related killings in Iraq in January - 35 murders in Detroit in the month of January - apples and oranges. If there were 35 police officers murdered (in the line of duty or otherwise) there would be a HUGE massive uproar.

Comparison of our military dying in the line of combat is not the same as the people murdered in Detroit. If you want a real comparison, then why not include the deaths on the other side of the war? That would be closer . . .

[PurityOfEssence]

19. Let's talk about all the killings in Iraq

To compare murders in one city against killings of armed invaders in a nation is ridiculous. If one gives a damn about humanity, one should compare the number of deaths in the destabilized mess that was Iraq against the number of deaths before. Totalitarian regimes, for all their faults, tend to keep the streets pretty safe. Now, there are kidnappings, political killings, robbery killings and all sorts of uglinesses.

All of this is our fault; we're the ones who decided to disrupt this country.

Baghdad is a whole mess o' death these days, and this is what really matters.

[Toots]

20. Iraqis are not humans I guess as their deaths don't seem to count

:shrug: Ignorance is bountiful in this once great land.

[zbdent]

11. Point #3

Talk to a kid today . . . they likely have no idea what a corded phone is. Give them a rotary phone for Christmas and watch their eyes glaze over. Try to pry their cell phone off their ear.

I bet that Massachusetts didn't have a 911 service back then, or even a 24-hour police station. I'm damn sure there were no cell phnes back then. The closest thing you would see there was the reruns of Star Trek - the Original series. Yet I belive that the Marines didn't destroy the Republican guard in a matter of hours . . . funny how Saddam had a REPUBLICAN guard . . .

[northzax]

16. Chappaquiddick is in the middle of nowhere

especially thirty years ago.

[pansypoo53219]

12. actually

3 soldiers died in bosnia. 7 in kosovo from a helicopter accident, 1 committed suicide and 1 they never said how he died.


and WHY do they ALWAYS ALWAYS bring up chappaquiddik(sp)??

[win_in_06]

14. Thanks, I'll change that to virtually ZERO casualties

Although of course even one is regrettable.

[Clark2008]

17. The point is that none died in direct combat.

The deaths were as a result of crashes - not at the hands of the enemy.

At least, that's how it was explained.

[zbdent]

18. They think that that ends all arguments

Funny how they also forget to mention Pickles's killing of her ex boyfriend . . .

[JeffR]

13. Hmmm...

As far as I remember, Richard Nixon was the Commander In Chief from 1969 to 1974. So just whose quagmire did Vietnam turn out to be in the end?

As to how much time it took to "take" Iraq, if it was "taken", why have the vast majority of casualties, US and Iraqi, occurred post-Mission Accomplished?

[Dark]

15. This is old. I had to debunk it for people at work.

It should be noted that Detroit CUT funding for their police force at that time. That might explain why there were so many murders.

[Mz Pip]

21. Johnson paid a huge price politically

for the Vietnam quagmire. So much so that he declined to seek another term. Contrast that to Bunnypants who refuses to admit there even is a problem much less one that should ever have any political consequences for him. :eyes:

Germany declared war on US the day after Pearl Harbor. I think you can kind of figure out what their intentions were from that declaration.Comparing

Iraq to the Branch Davidian compound is just stupid. And the last time I check we still haven't "taken" Iraq. "Mission Accomplished" was a PR stunt that had nothing to do with the reality.

And Hillary Clinton did find the Rose Law Firm billing records. When did BushCo find WMDs????

Mz Pip
:dem:

[win_in_06]

22. The shrub thinks there's no problem or political consequences

because of the results of 04. In fact, he feels vindicated.

Results in 06 will change that.

[Jed Dilligan]

23. "Germany never attacked us"

"I can see your true colors, shining through"