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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:11 AM
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WSJ:FEARFUL SENIORS loom over mid-term elections.
From WASHINGTON WIRE

By JOHN HARWOOD
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
December 9, 2005; Page A4

FEARFUL SENIORS loom over mid-term elections.

As companies pare pensions, Congressional gridlock on overhaul legislation risks deepening anger among the elderly. Voters over 60, one-fourth the 2004 electorate, play larger role in midterms as younger Americans stay home.

Warnings of Social Security's insolvency, but no legislation, have left retirees pessimistic; in last month's Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, seniors said the U.S. was heading in wrong direction by 3 to 1. Just 14% of the 4.6 million low-income beneficiaries Medicare had projected have signed up for extra help paying for Medicare prescription-drug benefit.

Medicare's holiday ads urge shoppers to help parents buy coverage because it's "something they can really use."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB113409807597018139.html?mod=todays_us_page_one (subscription)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:31 AM
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1. People vote selfinterest...and what they see...ain't what Bush promised
Bush has a rare skill for a President of the United States....Making Peeps believe BS.

But the Straw that broke the back has been reached in too many Homes... Bush ain't selling any more...ya canardly give him away

He is going down in History as a Loser of a Leader...his people lost ground under his stewardship. He has lost the struggle to salvage his name...Bush has become his own victim, that of overselling and now the credibility is gone...
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BigYawn Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:39 AM
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4. The 2006 elections will be the final nail in Bush's political coffin.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:42 AM
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7. he's the fastest lame duck in the west
the banana republicans pretty much exhausted their use for him the minute he was elected. he'll stay in office so he can appoint more banana republicans to the supreme court and be a placeholder so a democrat isn't in the oval office, but that's it.

the fact that the media was permitted to ream him over katrina, an incident in which shrub performed no worse than he performed on 9/11, is proof that he's simply not being protected the way he used to be. the banana republicans want him to be politically irrelevant yesterday's news be the time the next elections come around. they do NOT want a referendum on shrub.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:39 AM
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6. i wouldn't credit shrub for this
it is not he who makes the bs believable.
it's the media and the careful coordination with surrogates who all read from the same script.


i would venture to say that most people actually DON'T believe shrub at first, and their reaction to most of what he says is, "huh? really? can that be?" and only when the media and all the other banana republicans spend the rest of the week or month touting the same line do the sheeple all say, "wow, they're all saying it, i guess it must be so!"

in other words, shrub would not be remotely believable if the banana republicans didn't have control of the media and both houses of congress.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:19 PM
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9. Words of wisdom and astuteness come from your keyboard
Sending beer and ribs/salmon
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:47 PM
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10. wok seared ahi for me please!
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 12:48 PM by unblock
mmmmmm.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:59 AM
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16. NP, sending 7 slabs of ahi for wok seared dishes and cold beer
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:58 PM
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12. Exactly
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 01:00 PM by FreedomAngel82
The fundies all believed that Bush was one of them and that he would do their bidding. Little did they know he's nothing more than a corporate whore. They thought these judges were for them but they aren't. Sure, Alito has some no-abortion stances but they won't ever do anything about Roe V Wade or gay marriage either way. Why? These are "hot button" issues that get people out to vote and away from the real issues of the day (see Ann Richards, John McCain and John Kerry). If they last year talked more about the real issues, real terrorism, economy, health care, education for example it wouldn't have been close in the exit polls for them to write them off as nothing. I think last year there were three reason's why people voted for Bush: 1) "Terrorism" and the situation in Iraq 2) The fundie votes 3) Because they've always voted republican and figured Bush was really one of them. In the beginning Bush could fool people. After Gore "lost" in 2000 I was really disappointed and this was before I knew about anything with politics and I was even starting to like him. Than came 2004 and it was my time to vote so I researched everything I could and learned the truth and now despise him. But yes the fundies were getting upset with Harriet Miers and Karl Rove had to send out James Dobson with a "nudge nudge, wink wink" to say she's one of them even though she lied about being a Catholic once. Maybe sooner or later this republican party doesn't care about them. I'm sure some small number of them do (like Walter Jones for example) but not enough to matter sadly. This isn't your mama's republican party.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:03 AM
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17. The NeoCons are Evil Fundie Bastards who want to rule the world
by doing whatever it takes...LIE CHEAT STEAL and BEYOND...including BrainWashing...
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:34 AM
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2. We geezers vote like there's no tomorrow
because... never mind.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:35 AM
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3. Just remember Osama bin Laden!!!
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:13 AM
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5. Please tell me someone has thrown Bob Shrum underneath a bus?
Because if he's running the '06 elections he'll run the typical "Don't attack or Fight back and alwyas surrender" campiagn. I figure if he's out of the way we can win in '06.
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:25 AM
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8. One of my most conservative relations said that if you do not make 200K
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 06:25 AM by losdiablosgato
you have no business voting for Bush.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:53 PM
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11. I think if enough young and old people go out
and vote we can see a different Congress. Hopefully everyone will go out and vote next year and we can take back our country from these criminals.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:13 PM
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13. The GOP should be very afraid.
They have rapped the world many times over. They will pay for their sins.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:00 PM
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18. Yes, the Republicans are doing everything wrong
but it will not be enough for us to "not stand in the way of a train wreck." We saw with the Kerry campaign that this is not a campaign.

We will have to come with positive alternatives and we don't even need to tough Iraq; this may be a non issue come November. They can read the writing on the wall, too.

No, what they cannot do and will not do is ruining the youngest and the oldest and the weakest among us by cutting programs and giving all the money to the top 1% of income.

This is something that can be understood by everyone.. if we just frame it correctly.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:45 PM
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14. Rove wants them to fear immigrants, dont see how he will manage that.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:45 PM
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15. duplicate-deleted
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 04:46 PM by McCamy Taylor
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