Mark Warner on C Span Right Now

[ruggerson]

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[samurai_jack]

1. good speech so far...

...but Warner's gotta stop faking a southern accent. After a bit it begins to seem kinda dorky. Crowd likes him though.

[FreedomAngel82]

3. How do you know it's fake?

As a southern girl you learn to tell when it's fake and real living here. It doesn't seem fake to me. I really like him myself. He has an impressive record.

[samurai_jack]

8. it's fake

It seems pretty clear to me that he keeps slipping in and out of a southern accent. One minute he sounds like he's from the Shenandoah hill country, the next he sounds like he's from a northeastern city.
YMMV.

[AmericanDream]

15. Oh c'mon... you can so tell he doesn't have a southern accent & is faking

Compare this speech to the one in NH... wow, talk about being phony. I liked what he had to say... but that fake southern accent was a turn off.

[Kahuna]

30. He didn't even sound southern. Where is this nonsense coming from?

He sounds exactly the way he always sounds.

[ultraist]

10. I don't see the charisma

that some talk about, he seems a bit stiff to me but I haven't seen a lot of him.

Warner is not a Southerner, he grew up in CT and went to Harvard so it seems very unlikely he'd really have a Southern accent.


Mark Robert Warner (born December 15, 1954) is an American politician and the current Democratic governor of Virginia.

Warner was born in Indianapolis, Indiana and raised in Vernon, Connecticut, where he graduated from Rockville High School. He then attended George Washington University, and in 1977 became the first person in his family to graduate from college. He then graduated from Harvard Law School in 1980.

Warner was a Senate staff member in the early 1980s. He then used his knowledge of federal telecommunications policies as a broker of cellular phone franchise licenses, making a large fortune. As managing director of Columbia Capital Corporation he helped found or was an early investor in a number of tech companies. He co-founded Nextel as well as Capital Cellular Corporation .

[nickshepDEM]

11. South West Virginia seemed to like him.

If he can compete and earn the trust of the people of SW Virginia... Im convinced he can compete in every region of the country.

[ultraist]

13. Um, not really.

Many red Southern states have Dem governors, such as my state of NC but go for a Repub president.

Honestly, I haven't seen very much of Warner but have read he is very pro corp, pro war and DLC.

I do like the fact he comes from humble roots and was the first in his family to go to college. I'm tired of Bluebloods being the only ones to rise to the top.

[nickshepDEM]

14. If Easley ran for president and won the nomination...

I think he would carry NC.

Warner has already proven he's capable of carrying Virginia in a Presidential election.

[ultraist]

17. True.

Yet, carrying one's own homestate is not the same as carrying swing states in all regions.

Edwards was shown as beating Bush in his homestate too, in all polls. (People don't vote for VP, they vote for president so our state went to Bush).

Warner probably could carry VA---he's very popular there and VA is turning more and more blue. I think it may well swing in 08 as NC will, IF the presidential candidate takes the South seriously and campaigns here, unlike Kerry did.

But, Warner is not a Southerner and couldn't necessarily carry other Southern states.

[ruggerson]

19. He could probably carry most of the West

some of which are turning bluer and bluer - Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Montana.

I'd like to see a Warner/Feingold or Warner/Schweitzer ticket. Or some combination of that.

I think it would be extremely competitive.

[nickshepDEM]

21. He would also have to play less defense in states like...

Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Michigan, which would mean more offense in OH and FL. I have little doubt that he would carry Iowa and New Mexico. Id peg his odds at carrying Virginia at 75-80% (closer to 60% if Allen is the nominee).

His style of politics would give us a good shot at carrying AK, WV, OH, FL, NV, and possibly CO. MO, TN, LA, and NC would be a very big stretch. Every other state in the nation is out of play barring a popular vote blowout.

[ultraist]

23. I highly doubt Feingold with team up with Warner

Considering Warner's stand on the war and recent comments. They are worlds apart on this issue.

[ruggerson]

24. I would bet you Feingold would team up with him in a heartbeat

certainly would make an interesting duo

[FreedomAngel82]

37. That's my current dream ticket!

I would love a Warner/Feingold or Feingold/Warner ticket. Warner really turned around Virgina's economy and that's what we need. He has a very impressive resume and he had his flaws with past jobs and it shows he's human and can connect with your average person. For whatever reason that seems to be something people look for in a canidate. :shrug:

[FreedomAngel82]

36. I think Warner has a lot to offer

I don't care or pay attention to accents. That's just nonsense to pay attention to. What matters is their actions and deeds. In the interview(s) he did before the speech he answered some question's and did pretty well on the answers. I like how he can work with anyone and I think people are probably getting tired of fighting. He doesn't have the charsima like Clinton, nobody I think will ever match up to him, but he does have it and can talk to people and connect with them and answer with intellect but to where anybody can understand what he's saying.

[Kahuna]

29. Okay.. I just watched. I didn't hear a southern accent fake or real..

He sounds exactly the way he always sounds. Maybe you're just not used to hearing him. I don't get it.

[nickshepDEM]

31. I noticed it a little.

Seemed like he was trying to hard. But it was probably the fact he was w/ Fritz Hollings all day. Being around people from the deep south sometimes changes my accent. My neighbor is from Roanoke, VA, and whenever Im around him my accent changes a little.

[ruggerson]

39. I didn't hear any southern accent at all

and I watched it twice.

[Historic NY]

46. Live down south long enough you pick it up......

I have family in La., Miss. & Fl. and they were all from the north, they now have accents. I've had people tell me I have an accent, which I don't think I do and I live in upstate NY. Friends used to tell me when I came home from extended trips to London & UK, that I had a slight English sounding accent. I never thought so myself, but I did pickup slang and other verbiage.

Warner did make a lot of sense in his speech. Dem's need to go after the rest of the south instead of just concentrating on blue states and hoping to pickup a marginal state. We spend so much time, money & energy beating ourselves to death in our primary's that we give-up on campaigning nationwide.

[wyldwolf]

2. I've met Mark.. Great guy and very intelligent

... I can almost guarantee you his campaign will be the one that gets noticed in '07-'08.

[FreedomAngel82]

4. I think so too

He seems like such a nice guy and tells nice stories and makes people laugh. Last year the republicans had this whole thing with Kerry that you can't understand him, but with Warner they won't have that problem. I think the most impressive thing about Warner is how he turned a defecit into a surplus in ONE term and made jobs. That's what we need after Bush. Plus, he has humble roots and not from his parents or grandparents. First to attend college in his family, public school and he even failed at a few things first. It shows he isn't perfect but he keeps going and learning. I really like him a lot. I'm listening to his work plan and I really like the college plan he is talking about. :D

[ruggerson]

5. This is who can beat McCain

Taking a 6 bil deficit and turning it into a surplus in ONE term is pretty incredible

[FreedomAngel82]

6. Yes

He's young, got a young family (I believe his oldest is fifteen) and everything like that. You can see him at http://www.draftmarkwarner.com and sign the petition! I think he will go well against any republican canidate.

[nickshepDEM]

7. He hits the nail on the head w/ the whole Terry Schiavo and

Health Care fiasco. Congress will rush back in the middle of the night to save Terry, but they show no urgency to address the 45 million w/o health care.

Nail meet head.

[ruggerson]

9. Yep and good reference to stem cells

he needs to hit the wedge issues that work for our side, and he seems to realize that

[FreedomAngel82]

38. Yes

And as someone who doesn't have health care that's a big issue with me. I think in 2008 the big issues will be health care, independent energy plan, enviornment, jobs. The republicans of course will try to do the foreign policy plan, anti-gay rights and abortion like they always do. And with Dean as chairman and everyone agreeing we need to do a fifty state campaign I think this next election will go very well.

[catmother]

12. this is the second time my republican husband saw warner speak.

he really likes him. will vote for him. if we can get moderate repubs like my husband we'll have a really good chance.

[ruggerson]

16. very cool

ask your husband if it was McCain vs. Warner whom he would vote for

[catmother]

34. warner -- he thinks mccain is nuts.

on edit: my husband used to be a democrat but didn't like the dems who were running so he changed parties. he did not vote for bush. didn't vote at all since he didn't like kerry. i am thrilled that he likes warner -- i think he's about ready to come back to our side.

[FreedomAngel82]

42. Why did he become a republican?

My mother is no longer a republican (much thanks to George and the neocons) but now an indie. I'm a democrat but I don't think I'm listed as anything since in my state now when you register you don't have to put a party affiliation which I think is a lot safer because of what happened with that group who threw away registration forms of democrats.

[FreedomAngel82]

41. Nice!

Did he see last night's speech aired and also Romney? Between them who would he vote for? Any idea? I think the thing with Warner is he reaches out to all types of people for the greater good. He mentioned in his speech he worked with the NASCAR people a few times for example. We need that again in DC.

[ultraist]

18. What is Warner's position on the Iraq war? n/t

[nickshepDEM]

20. No immediate withdrawl.

No timetable. I think he said he prefers milestones. When we meet or fail to meet those milestones we re-evaluate our position. He's been quoted as saying... "We need to focus less on how we got there, more on how we get out." Some try to spin that positon into "he doesnt want to look at the manipulation of pre-war intelligence". But thats totally false. He just prefers that ending the war be a priority over how we got there.

[ultraist]

22. I found something, he essentially supports Bush on this

http://keepaustinblue.org/blog/?p=423

“This Democrat doesn’t think we need to re-fight how we got into (the Iraq war). I think we need to focus more on how to finish it,” Warner said.

“To set an arbitrary deadline or specific date is not appropriate,” he said. “… It is incumbent on the president to set milestones for what he believes will be the conclusion.”


Another Joe Lieberman, perhaps?

[nickshepDEM]

25. Well include yourself as one who likes to spin...

His "Less on how get got there, more on how we get out" position.

Warner is simply prioritizing. He believes finishing the war takes priority over argueing pre-war intelligence. I tend to agree. Does that mean we should abandon the investigation into pre-war intelligence? No. It simply means argueing a plan to finish the job takes precedent.

His position on milestones is very much within the mainstream. Majority of Americans do not support immediate withdrawl. They believe we should not leave Iraq in an unstable situation.

[catmother]

35. hi nickshepDEM i agree with you and mark warner. i have

a good feeling about him.

[PassingFair]

40. Hey Ultraist! Don't you have any MANNERS?

It's impolite to interrupt their circle-jerk with quotes and facts.

[ruggerson]

45. it's ok

he's done it on virtually every warner thread in the last few months. it's more amusing than anything else. as are you.

[FreedomAngel82]

43. You can go to

the C-Span site and watch his interview from last night on that. He says we shouldn't worry about how we got in but how we're going to get out and security and turning on the water and things like that. That's why, in my opinion, 2006 is important for us to gain back the House and Senate so they can do investigations. And one governor who was with him really slammed Cheney. :D

[nickshepDEM]

26. REPEAT ON CSPAN NOW! 9:30pm EST.

[SaveElmer]

27. C'mon...Warner is DLC...you are not allowed to like him...

He is clearly a neocon in disguise!!!

:sarcasm:

[nickshepDEM]

28. Whooops. Will you ever frogive me? Forgot he was big bad DLC.

[snowbear]

32. Quit picking on Warner!

you --> :spank: <-- me

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[Clarkansas]

33. I thought his speech was really good

Education, outsourcing, alternative fuels, working to get things done, focusing on what democrats can do instead of focusing how much republicans suck (ok... my words not his), his success in getting votes from Virginians who hadn't voted for democrats in years, it all sounded great to me. He doesn't have the stiff politician vibe that most politicians have either.

I didn't notice anything strange about his accent. I have a friend who grew up in a America but has lived in Canada for a few years, and he has unintentionally started picking up Canadianism like "aboot." Maybe Warner has had the same thing happen to him, but I don't hear it.
:shrug:

[FreedomAngel82]

44. Could be

:shrug: I don't pay attention to that. He just has a voice. My dad grew up in Michigan and later moved here to Tennessee and he doesn't have any sort of accent. I think a few words and phrases he does but not like my mother, brother and I who have lived down here since we were born. And with the DLC as a whole I'm a bit iffy with them but on individual canidates I look at their records. Their actions speak louder than words. Warner can bring a lot to the table in 2008 and with the right VP too (I'm hoping Feingold!).
And yes I really liked his speech too. He laid everything out clearly and he even connected with the crowd. Everyone there seemed to enjoy him.