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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:42 PM
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Bush Threatened U.N. Over Clinton Climate Speech
How petty can Bush get?

http://newyorkmag.com/nymetro/news/people/columns/intelligencer/15314/index.html

By Greg Sargent

Bush-administration officials privately threatened organizers of the U.N. Climate Change Conference, telling them that any chance there might’ve been for the United States to sign on to the Kyoto global-warming protocol would be scuttled if they allowed Bill Clinton to speak at the gathering today in Montreal, according to a source involved with the negotiations who spoke to New York Magazine on condition of anonymity.

Bush officials informed organizers of their intention to pull out of the new Kyoto deal late Thursday afternoon, soon after news leaked that Clinton was scheduled to speak, the source said.

The threat set in motion a flurry of frantic back-channel negotiations between conference organizers and aides to Bush and Clinton that lasted into the night on Thursday, and at one point Clinton flatly told his advisers that he was going to pull out and not deliver the speech, the source said.

“It’s just astounding,” the source told New York Magazine. “It came through loud and clear from the Bush people—they wouldn’t sign the deal if Clinton were allowed to speak.” Clinton spokesman Jay Carson confirmed the dustup took place and that the former president had decided not to go out of fear of harming the negotiations, but Carson declined to comment further.


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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:44 PM
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1. Cry babies. . .
. . .LOL
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:45 PM
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2. This is a testimony to how much....
...these mothereffers fear Clinton. He carries more weight and credibility in his left pinky than this troupe of clowns.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:45 PM
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3. This shows that they aren't interested in the world
or even our best interests, but rather only their own petty selves.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:46 PM
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4. Bush - biggest coward ever. I think of the Lion in Wizard of Oz.
I can't wait 'till he's gone and we are reminiscing about the awful days under Bush the Coward. This awful nightmare can't be over soon enough for me.
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whathappened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:47 PM
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5. wtf
clinton should have took the ranes on this one and shouted to the world we need to clean up our messes in this world for the good of all and jr. is a brain dead brat from a silver food fed family and don,t even no what fresh air and water means to all of us ,
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:50 PM
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6. Clinton Did Speak......
After the US delegation took their dolls, dishes and crayons and went home. Our prime minister "insulted" them, too.

Clinton informed the assembly that Bush was "flat wrong" on climate change.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:52 PM
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7. Yes, the fifth paragraph says that
But only allowed to post 4.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:56 PM
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10. Here's a clip from Canada Press:
Early last week the U.S. delegation walked out after being stung by criticism from the summit’s Canadian hosts over its stance. However, it returned to the negotiating table after the tactic generated a surge of negative coverage in the American media.

Many American environmental groups added to the clamour which was reinforced when Clinton took to the podium.

He told the summit there was no longer "any serious doubt" that climate change was real and attacked the Bush administration’s central claim that cutting emissions would harm the American economy.

Delegates at the conference said the attacks left the American delegation in confusion. "They were running around like headless chickens," said a member of the British team.


:rofl:

Whole article is here:
http://www.herald.ca/Front/470463.html
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:53 PM
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8. I think it's just plain jealousy!!!!!
Can you just imagine how much it pisses off Shrub every time he hears someone say how well Clinton was always received in every country he visited, while he was Pres, and continues through today!

I think Shrub knows he'll never be liked as much as BC. The thing he can't seem to recognize is that it's NOT that people don't like him, they seem to actually HATE him!!!!
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:53 PM
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9. "any chance there might’ve been for the United States to sign "?
There never was any chance they were going to sign. They've been adament about not signing it from the beginning.

Now they are going to say it's Clinton's fault because he voiced his opinion?

OMFG!!.....These fuckers have no redeeming social value whatsoever. They are complete and total scumbags.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:59 PM
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11. I can just see the rich frat boy throwing a full blown temper tantrum
-- throwing stuff -- screaming -- probably laying on the floor kicking his feet like a 2 year old.

Sometimes I believe I am being generous when I say bushie has the emotional maturity of a 10 year old. He is more like a self centered 2 year old. Especially since he believes that he is in direct contact with "god" and "god" speaks only to him. Seems like I've read research about how very young children believe that adults can read their mind then at some point they realize that their thoughts are not transparent to adults and others. Bushie just never got over that 2 year old - NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO hump.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:45 AM
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18. And what is really amazing to me
Is that there are still people in the MSM who take this administration seriously -- as if adults were in charge.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:13 PM
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12. these are adults...
the pigmedia hides the story (plays it down?) not because of the sheer depravity of the busheviks exposed, but because the story would cause millions of tiny tots to teenagers to realize the big boys are stupid, nasty, and cowardly (how is it that the organisers never simply laughed at the absurd threats, then called cnn(?) to report it? why didn't everybody involved demand that some modicum of maturity be shown, on such a serious subject, or the juvenile delinquent antics exposed?)
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:07 PM
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15. Well, some of them are, anyway.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:29 PM
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13. kick and recommended
thanks for posting, I was hoping there would be some follow up on this.
It's an embarrassment, that the bushies act this way.
I'm ashamed.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:36 PM
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14. So it's ok for Clinton to hang out with bush's daddy
And give collobrative little sound bite speeches on charitable issues,But NOT ok for a successful, experienced former president to give a speech on environmental issues? Even it they don't agree? No give and take? No exchange of ideas? I've been to seminars, conferences and the like where different points of view were expressed. Food for thought a lot of the time.
This is just more proof the bush administration all need to grow long hair. Then they can wear ponytails for leverage to pull their heads out of their asses.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:16 PM
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17. Because asking for money is something this adminstrations fav pastime
but when it comes to anything that actually requires one deciding on how americans money should be spent, no one outside this administrations little group are allowed a voice..

Plus, its pretty obvious there is a certain amount of grudging respect that poppy has for clinton where junior comes off towards clinton as a jealous little nitwit...big difference there.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:14 PM
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16. Cry Baby Bush


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