Would you vote for McCain or Hillary in 2008?

[nicktobreakban77]

[tx_dem41]

1. It's obvious to me. n/t

[rogerashton]

2. I'd vote for Smellary,

but I'd have to hold my nose.

[Ken Burch]

5. Yet another arguement for Instant Runoff Voting and other forms

of electoral reform.

We need a way to get REAL choices, not just the evil of two lessors.

[skipos]

9. Clinton would be MUCH better than McCain

With that in mind, she certainly is my last choice for the 08 nom.
I agree with you about runoffs. I am worried that Hillary will win the nomination with a small plurality.

[Plausible]

3. Ewww McCain

I wouldn't vote for McCain for pooperscooper even.

[FlashHarry]

4. Hmm

The fact that I actually have to consider the question -- or that it's asked at all -- says a lot about Ms. Clinton.

[MADem]

6. No contest--Health Care Hillary beats the Bush Huggy Bear hands down n/t

[Boredtodeath]

7. Neither

I would abstain.

[nicktobreakban77]

8. Gallup poll. December 6th. McCain 44%, Hillary 40%

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aExn3Y0QObH4&refer=us

Sadly for McCain, beating Giuliani is an uphill battle for him.

[newyawker99]

25. Hi nicktobreakban77!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[MADem]

28. Off topic, but whatever does your name mean?

Are you the mean boss who bans breaks? Or did you go up against the boss who banned breaks?

[stray cat]

10. Probably Clinton.

The thing I like about McCain is that he can cross party lines on some issues, and is furious about pork spending and the deficit.

[nicktobreakban77]

11. An abstention option has been added

to the poll.

[Warpy]

12. No, I'd have to vote Green or Socialist

I'm done with corporatists.

[bahrbearian]

13. Neither ,I don't vote for Republicans

[Adelante]

14. Hillary

No question.

[Nimrod2005]

15. I say the choice is obvious....Hillary WINS!!!

[formernaderite]

26. Look again...

if you have 1/4 of democratic voters abstaining, and a few voting for McCain....Hillary Loses in a big way. Answer:
Don't run Hillary in 08.

[mike_c]

16. not for either, under any circumstances....

Ugh.

[IronLionZion]

17. The Green Party would have their best showing ever!

and will get federal funds for 2012. I'd vote for them, or maybe the Libertarians depending on my mood. Meanwhile it will be a McCain landslide.

[MrBenchley]

20. A lock on sixth place ahead of the Maharishi party, that is....

[IronLionZion]

21. hehe, and 7th place would be the Democratic party.

I enjoyed your thread on who is a real Democrat. You made an excellent point. :P

[MrBenchley]

22. And flying monkeys would come out David Cobb's ass....

Thanks

[MADem]

29. Four more years of GOP hell? I don't think I could last...n/t

[beyurslf]

18. Any unnamed Democrat over any unnamed Republican. That is my vote

regardless of the Dem or Rep you put in the equation. McCain is dirty dog's breath.

[nicktobreakban77]

19. Any moderate Republican over Lieberman

how's that.

[beyurslf]

24. Nope. I can't think of a Moderate Republican who'd be better than my least

favorite Dem.

[Douglas Carpenter]

54. now I am no fan of Joe Lieberman but why not compare their records and

then decide -- this is Lieberman vs McCainThey both hold equally deplorable positions on Iraq. But let's compare on other issues.

link:

from project vote smart - link

for Lieberman

http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=S0141103

for McCain link:

http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=S0061103

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League 0 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the American Civil Liberties Union 83 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Civil Liberties Union 22 percent in 2003-2004.

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 75 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 35 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 83 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 33 percent in 2004.


2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 92 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 9 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the National Education Association 88 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Education Association 35 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Human Rights Campaign 88 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Human Rights Campaign 25 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 95 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 14 percent in 2003-2004.

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Arab American Institute 50 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Arab American Institute 0 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Family Research Council 0 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Family Research Council 67 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Christian Coalition 0 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Christian Coalition 83 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the American Conservative Union 0 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Conservative Union 72 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Concerned Women for America 8 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Concerned Women for America 100 percent in 2003-2004.

[Appalachian_American]

57. seeing Lieberman's record

makes me think I've judged him too harshly.

[sellitman]

23. I do what everyone here SHOULD do.

Hold their nose and vote for Hillary. We already know what a third party candidate does for the Dems. If you don't understand this by now don't even reply to this post. You are beyond my help.

[newspeak]

27. so, now we have two choices

maybe I shouldn't vote and let the media vote for me. Because that's where it seems to be going. If that's the choices I have, then neither.

[MADem]

30. I'm with you, and I would not have to hold my nose, either

If a Democrat agrees with about 70 percent of MY views, I can bear them easily. And who knows how views might shift when the potential constituents are a national, not a local, audience. Remember, GHW Bush was FOR choice before he was agin' it!

Frankly, I think anyone who refuses to vote is a shitty citizen, and has ceded their right to complain about ANYTHING in the political sphere. Ya gotta lead, follow, or get out of the way!

[sellitman]

33. Those who don't understand this deserve * n/t

[Plausible]

31. McCain - most dangerous man in America

from the Huffington Post
"McCain: Most Dangerous Man in America (47 comments )
READ MORE: Iraq, Tim Russert, Google, 2008, Saddam Hussein, George W. Bush

I read Arianna's lament about Sen. John McCain with empathy. I too fell for the Straight Talk Express in 2000. I never committed to voting for him in the general election, but I temporarily switched my party registration to support him in the GOP primaries, thinking that he would at least be less dangerous than Bush.

I see now how wrong that vote was. Not because McCain has changed in any significant way (though both Arianna and Ari Melber have noticed some unpleasant changes), but because of what has stayed the same.

People wonder why McCain flacks so vigorously for the Iraq War. It's because it was his idea."
more
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-scher/mccain-most-dangerous-ma_b_11715.html

[0007]

34. McCain is like an empty box of rocks.

[NJ Democrats]

32. Clinton of course.

Any Dem is better than any Republican!

[Jacobin]

35. Hmmm

.....

Started to say something but I won't.

Eugene McCarthy lost the race, but helped end the war.

[undecidedvtr]

36. undecided

I just turned 18 an i'm really looking forward to voting in '08. I was raised in a non-political family but really want to get involved on one side or the other. I've visited some conserv sites and they make some sense but not entirely. Can someone please tell me why my vote is better on the dem side than the rep side?

[undecidedvtr]

37. undecided

I just turned 18 an i'm really looking forward to voting in
'08. I was raised in a non-political family but really want to
get involved on one side or the other. I've visited some
conserv sites and they make some sense but not entirely. Can
someone please tell me why my vote is better on the dem side
than the rep side? 

[nickshepDEM]

39. Depends. Where do you stand on the following issues.

Abortion, Gay Marriage, and other cultural issues?

Trade?

Taxes?

Iraq War?

Social Security privitization?

The National Health Care crisis?

[undecidedvtr]

47. stance

Abortion: I dont think i'd have one but I wouldn't tell
someone not to.
Gay Marriage: Seems as though its been engraved in our culture
for it to be between man and woman.  That seems to have worked
thus far.
Trade:  Never thought about it.
Taxes:  The more money I can keep the better
Iraq war:  Everyone deserves freedom
Social Security:  I was always told never to count on it
because it prob wouldn't be there for me
Health Care:  It would be great to get it for free but is that
realistic? I don't know.

[Crunchy Frog]

46. You might enjoy just hanging around here and lurking for awhile.

Please note that this site is not representative of the Democratic party as a whole, and overall tends to run quite a bit to the left of it. You may get some idea though, of what the biggest concerns are among the Democratic base, and what sorts of issues we progressives have with the current administration. This is also an excellent site for keeping track of the news, especially when it comes to things that don't get much coverage in the mainstream American media.

Welcome to DU, and hope you stick around for awhile.:hi:

[Crazy Guggenheim]

50. ..........

:popcorn:

[nickshepDEM]

38. Clinton

[snowbear]

40. Why do we have to have such LAME polls?

The majority (not all.. but the majority) of people here don't want either of those two candidates.. and yet, like a bad rash.. this tired old poll just will not go away!!

Stop the insanity.. ..

How's this for a New Year's Resolution: NO LAME POLLS!

[MercutioATC]

41. I hold my nose and vote for the Dem...like I did in 2004.

[sendero]

42. I'd vote for Clinton..

... with a clothespin on my nose.

Not voting is an abdication of my responsibility as a citizen. But I'd rather vote for an opportunist than a fucking PSYCHO like McCain.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

43. First welcome to DU! Second, I don't think either of them are going to

run. I did, however, vote abstain.

[IndianaGreen]

44. I won't vote for a lunatic, and I won't support a corporate tart

The fact they are both prowar makes them radioactive!

Hopefully Hillary's Presidential ambitions will get derailed long before the Convention.

[Crunchy Frog]

45. I would never vote for the Republican, but

I likely wouldn't vote for Hillary either. Realistically, I would probably vote Green party. I don't see any way that Hillary could win anyway, so I might as well just vote my concience.

[Crunchy Frog]

48. Well, this guy sure didn't last long.

6 posts and he's already tombstoned. :shrug:

[Crazy Guggenheim]

49. SEEE YAAAA!!!

[usregimechange]

51. Well there goes our base.

[Nutmegger]

52. If she changes her mind on the Iraq War

'nuff said. However, if she doesn't and ends up running, I'll have to vote Green or third-party. I'm not going to support anybody who doesn't grow a spine and stand up to BushCo and this fake war.

[Douglas Carpenter]

53. why not compare their records and then decide?

This is courtesy of project vote smart - link:

http://www.vote-smart.org/index.htm

for McCain link:

http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=S0061103

for Clinton link:

http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=WNY99268

"2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League 0 percent in 2004.



2003-2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Civil Liberties Union 78 percent in 2003-2004.


2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Civil Liberties Union 22 percent in 2003-2004.


2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 95 percent in 2004.


2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 35 percent in 2004.


2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 100 percent in 2004.


2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 33 percent in 2004.


2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 110 percent in 2004


2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 9 percent in 2004.


2003-2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Education Association 85 percent in 2003-2004.


2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Education Association 35 percent in 2003-2004.


2003-2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Human Rights Campaign 88 percent in 2003-2004.


2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Human Rights Campaign 25 percent in 2003-2004.


2003-2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 100 percent in 2003-2004


2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 15 percent in 2003-2004.


2003-2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 100 percent in 2003-2004.


2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 14 percent in 2003-2004.


2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Arab American Institute 25 percent in 2004.


2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Arab American Institute 0 percent in 2004.


2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Family Research Council 0 percent in 2004.


2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Family Research Council 67 percent in 2004.


2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Christian Coalition 0 percent in 2004.


2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Christian Coalition 83 percent in 2004.


2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Conservative Union 0 percent in 2004.


2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Conservative Union 72 percent in 2004.


2003-2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Concerned Women for America 7 percent in 2003-2004.


2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Concerned Women for America 100 percent in 2003-2004."

[SONUVABUSH]

55. If you nominate Hillary, 4 more years of..

A republican president, another Bush clone and more killing in Iraq.

[MalachiConstant]

56. wow, talk about the lesser of two evils.

i'd still vote dem, but i think mccain would win without a problem. welcome to DU nicktobreakban77

postscript:

i apologize in advance if this is against some rule i'm unaware of, but i'm going to plug my thread. i have started a thread suggesting a new DU group for career advice, and job seekers. if you're interested please check out this thread and reply:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x4430590

[The Magistrate]

58. Locking

The O.P. is no longer among us....