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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:21 AM
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Poll question: POLL: Will Dick Cheney Resign in 2006?
This inquiry is based on the following article:
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001129.html

Barbara Bush is allegedly TICKED off at Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Andy Card, nearly all of them -- except Karen Hughes -- for how her boy is faring in the hearts and minds of Americans.

The matriarch of the Bush clan is colder than North Pole ice right now to those around her son who she thinks have undermined him. I'll tell who my sources are if Patrick Fitzgerald gives a call and makes me -- but the sources are very close to Poppa Bush (41), who has been traveling a bit with some of his old entourage, including Brent Scowcroft and others of the first Bush regime.

While TWN has been able to confirm that Laura Bush's mother-in-law wants to do more than put coal in the stockings of the Vice President and the other top handlers of her son's White House, we have not been able to confirm a slightly stronger bit of the rumor, which is that Barbara -- not Laura -- was planning to call on Nancy Reagan just to get a refresher lesson on how she took on and kicked out then Chief-of-Staff Donald Regan. (I embellish here; Barbara Bush is not going to take lessons from Nancy, it just sounded good. My source told me that Barbara was about to "pull a Nancy Reagan" on these attendants.)

Cheney may be tougher to dump than Don Regan, but then again, Barbara Bush is one of those wonders of nature (we hear) who knows no limits...Should be interesting to watch the role of the First Mother in the coming couple of months. Watch for a lot to change right after the State of the Union address, I've been told...

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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:24 AM
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1. Short of him being indicted, Cheney is not going to resign.
Or be fired.

That would be the maximum admission of a mistake by Bush. He can't handle heat like that, he's way too weak.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:52 AM
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3. He sure is full of hubris, and thinks he doesn't make mistakes
...but who knows, maybe MAMA BAR will MAKE him do it! :evilgrin:
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:56 AM
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4. The Dickhead won't resign...if he does I'll eat one of my shoes
'Um, IF Dickhead does resign...remind me that I have to eat one of my shoes ;)
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:59 AM
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5. I think he has formulated an escape plan, just in case
He bought a massive house in rural MD a couple of months ago, right near Donny Rumsfeld's mansion. Lynne has been making high speed runs to, of all places, POTTERY BARN (as in Iraq: You break it, you bought it, Colin Powell's "Pottery Barn" rule) to furnish the joint!
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 01:09 AM
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7. I feel sorry for
The neighbors, it must be horrible having these freaks living near you.

Lynne has been making runs to Pottery Barn :rofl:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 01:25 AM
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8. I even have a cite!!!
· Lynne Cheney at the Pottery Barn in Georgetown last week. The second lady (and bodyguard) has made multiple visits to furnish . . . well, could it be that rumored getaway on the Eastern Shore?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/29/AR2005092900149_2.html
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:28 AM
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2. Never.
He will never resign. He might have his 1000th heart attack, though, and shuffle off to meet his friend Satan.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 01:00 AM
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6. Me thinks Babs is outmatched with this one!
I agree, she's a very tough lady, but I doubt even SHE can manuver Unca Dick!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 01:28 AM
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9. Sorta like a battle of Japanese film monsters!!
Godzilla v. Mothra...which one will prevail!!!

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tirechewer Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 01:51 AM
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10. I voted for resignation...
for "health reasons". But that comes with the caveat that an indictment will be breathing down the back of his neck before he does it.

He kind of threw it in everyone's face when he picked John Hannah and David Addington to fill vacancies on his staff after Libby left. They were also implicated in Fitzmas, and are still facing further investigation of their parts in the CIA leaks. That was both stupid and arrogant of Cheney.

But then the new grand jury opened today, and hopefully Fitzmas will come for Cheney as it has for Libby, and as it will later for Rove. I don't think Carl should be forgotten when all of the other boys and girls are being handed their Fitzmas gifts.:party:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 01:58 AM
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11. I think Viveca Novak may have put some coal in Kkkarl's and Luskin's
stockings!!
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tirechewer Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:04 AM
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12. She very well may have done so...
Wouldn't it be nice to see all the boys and girls at the Fitzmas party talking to Scooter "New Meat" Libby about choosing the right cellmate to keep house for?:evilgrin:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:54 AM
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13. Here's how I think it goes down:
Edited on Thu Dec-08-05 03:49 AM by BlueIris
1. Cheney resigns. It's relatively unexpected for 75-80% of the entire country (even us). I post that because I think the resignation is a done deal--he already has the house picked out and everything. I think he'll go during this "quiet" time, before Fitzgerald indicts him and other members of the Administration for a fat pile of extremely serious crimes. I have no idea what the explanation will be, but suspect it will be as bizarrely mundane as possible--maybe even an imaginary "family crisis." The point will be to "minimize" suspicion for why he's leaving by pretending there's nothing suspicious to be about (typical Administration ignore-and-evade tactic). Perhaps Bush will say something as insane as "Dick Cheney is no longer needed in this administration" or "we've grown apart."

2. Rice becomes V.P.

3. Cheney will be quietly indicted for a slue of shit. The mounting scandal surrounding the indictments plus the continued quagmires in Iraq, the economy and the post-Katrina Gulf Coast, as well as the stuff just coming out about the Cunningham-Wilkes scam, will result in an equally bizarre Bush resignation. I predict that he will give as few reasons as possible for his departure, and may not even make a "goodbye" speech.

4. Rice becomes President.

5. Rice, I am almost certain, will nominate McCain as V.P. then resign herself, possibly while under indictment.

6. I don't know if we'll even know whether or not Bush got an indictment or precisely what it was for, but McCain will pardon everyone.

7. McCain will run for President in '08.

Basically, the Republicans will have given the media enough room to claim that Dick Cheney's "neo-con cabal" destroyed the promise of the Bush presidency and dynasty (no, I don't know whether or not the MSM will come anywhere close to addressing what the neo-cons' motives were). This will give the Bush Family and their far right supporters enough room to save face and cling to their ridiculous delusion that their Golden Boy didn't do anything more than be mislead. They will do everything possible to suppress the truth about the nature of Fitzgerald's indictments and whatever else comes out about Cunningham-Wilkes. They'll probably be successful in suppressing Fitzgerald's findings, but I don't know about that second one. They may wish to have us believe that Bush was taken down for the Cunningham-Wilkes disaster rather than taken down for suborning treason, especially because most of even the informed Internet savvy populace still doesn't understand what the Administration leaked Plame's identity for. The Family will do anything to keep it that way. And the Party, though damaged beyond all repair, will be able to be able to merrily pretend they had a "major issue" with Bush, but they "dealt with it," will be able to have some semblance of a "normal" convention (for them) in 2008, then an election in which McCain will graciously lose to a polite, but competent team of hot liberals. Mostly because our ticket will clobber the opposition again, and the media will be forced to recognize their victory this time because they WON'T try to spin an outcome they CAN'T sell. I'm not going to mention any names.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 04:01 PM
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16. Keeee-Ryst on a bike, that is a helluva scenario!
But it does have a certain logical structure to it. I can totally buy Rice as #2, since she is in the Monkey's Galpal Fan Club, and the rumor mill says he is ticked at all the mean boys. Then you have McCain hugging up old Monkeyboy...do McCain and Condi have any sort of real relationship?

McCain, when he was on active duty at OLA, was what only can be described in most pejorative fashion as a whoremaster. He was rotten to females, the ones who worked for him, the ones he fooled around with on the side, rotten to his first wife, just plain rotten. He likely has mellowed in his old age, but has he mellowed enough? The only issue I see is that McCain, though he is trying like hell to slough off his MAVERICK label in exchange for a LOYAL REPUBLICAN badge, might not have enough time to do that.

But, OTOH, there are plenty of Democrats who would prefer him warming the seat to Monkeyking!

If Monkey wanted to be totally bold (and make his mama happy) he'd skip over Rice and nominate little Jebby....AAAAGH!
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:18 AM
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14. It should be obvious by now that we are not that lucky.
Cheney is the Earl K. Long (former Louisiana governor with an amazing tale) of national politics.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 05:34 PM
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17. Long was COLORFUL, though, and did have fans
Despite, and perhaps because of, his stint in the mental institution and his affair with the stripper.

Cheney has cretinous bastards who are linked to him because they can get rich, but no one LOVES his ass....! Except maybe FAT TONY "Let's Go Huntin'" Scalia...and that's probably because they are two of a kind--no one loves HIS ass, either!
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:12 PM
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20. True. It is the love of money that has made Cheney what he is today-
a bitter, ill, stubborn man whom no one seems to love.

How do I know this? I don't. I don't know what's in Cheney's heart (such as it is.) But from appearances, it would be something soulless like lust for riches, because he does have a soulless air.

(And wouldn't you know, in the end, it will turn out that I'm totally wrong, and it will turn out that Cheney was happy as a lark each and every day that he sat down at his desk to preside over more killing, and more lies, and more destruction. Wouldn't it just figure...)
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Hyernel Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:54 AM
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15. Don't let Cheney go on his own terms....
....He must be forced out in disgrace!! As a result of indictment or impeachment.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 06:41 PM
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18. "Barbara Bush is one of those wonders of nature" ... oh dear lord...
That line will haunt me for all my natural days. Barbara Bush is one of those mean old ladies who don't like poor people, even tho her family is partly reponsible for there being so many poor. When the going gets tough, the Republicans eat their own. I'm a amused, but when the government gets subsumed in petty infighting, you just know they're going to be too busy back stabbing to deal competantly with the next crisis they're supposed to be preparing for. What a collossal waste.

Oh, and speaking of colossal waists....

"No, mama, I won't hug you and shout I'm the king of the world."
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:50 PM
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21. Well, a komodo dragon is a wonder of nature



...but I would not want to sleep with one, or even make it my best friend!!!
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 06:46 PM
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19. Cheney is Satan
Not really. I was just trying to freak out any lurking Freepers:). Cheney is an evil bastard though.
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SONUVABUSH Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 11:06 PM
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22. Never will resign...
That greedy SOB is making a killing off of the killing. God only knows the under the table kickbacks he is getting. Very little work to do, getting richer by the minute. Why would he resign?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:09 AM
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23. To escape charges, in exchange for a pardon, maybe????
If he has any brains, he'd be more afraid of BAR than he would any political operative on the warpath!!!
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 12:21 PM
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24. I've always expected Cheney to resign in '06
Edited on Fri Dec-09-05 12:23 PM by Jai4WKC08
I think it's been part of the plan all along. He'd have resigned before the Nov 04 election, but the powers that be figured that would hurt Bush with the base.

Ostensibly "for health reasons," but really to allow the designated heir to serve for a couple years in prep for 2008, giving him (I doubt sincerely it'll be Rice) an advantage over the competition, and the use of government resources for his campaign.

My second choice is that Cheney resigns, for the same underlying reasons above, but spun by the media as taking the blame for the war. That would run counter to what has been Bush's m.o. so far, but Congressional Repubs are running scared--they may prevail upon Bush to make an exception. It's not like he has to worry about re-election, and he could probably be convinced that his "legacy" should reflect that the debacle that's coming in Iraq is someone else's fault.

I don't actually think Bush will be the one making the decision tho.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 03:21 PM
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25. You're right, there is no real heir now
Five Deferments Dick is also Five Heart Attacks Dick...and even if he were anointed, they'd need to have a stellar VP candidate in the event his roboheart went wobbly. But he's on the outs, now, so they need an heir if they hope to hold on to power.

Your second choice might fly, and I did think it was a valid option despite his proclivity to never admit failure...especially since BAR is so pissed at Dick, and Dummby does "lissen to his mama!"
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