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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 06:01 PM
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Dean to appear on Leno
I don't remember seeing this posted yet.

WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 30, 2005 - Los Angeles, CA

Who: DNC Chairman Howard Dean
What: Tonight Show with Jay Leno
When: Wednesday, November 30, 2005
Where: Please check local listing for broadcast times in your area.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 06:07 PM
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1. thanks for the heads up
I'll be sure and program that into my dvr.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 07:45 PM
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2. Leno was brave enough to joke about the voting machines.
Will Dean get a spine and seriously address that issue? It is THE most important one facing the nation.
We'll never stop the war machine, salvage the economy or safeguards of the last 60 years unless we can legitimately CHOOSE those we want to have representing us.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 07:46 PM
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3. Dean has no spine.
He had no spine when he hosted a TV show showing how to hack the voting machine.

Where did you get the idea he had a spine?
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:03 PM
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5. He refused to conclude that there was election fraud in Ohio ('04),
despite all the evidence to the contrary. Unless our Dem leaders are willing to shout "FRAUD" from the rooftops, how will we EVER restore our right to vote -- and have that vote counted legitimately?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:37 PM
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6. Hey, I told you he has no spine.
Quit saying that. I hate to keep hearing people say that guy has a spine.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:30 PM
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12. They are never going to say that
because the Dems cheat too.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 02:54 AM
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13. Well...
I've never heard of Dems winning elections because the voting machines cheated on their behalf.

I *do* know that there are some scoundrels, who pass themselves off as Dems, but aren't really.
In actuality they're shills who are doing the bidding of the repug party. CA's Los Angeles head of elections, Conny McCormack, is a classic example of that.

There's a second group of Dems who are on the take from the voting machine companies. They were in office for money and power in the first place, so what the heck.

The third, larger group of Dems is terrified of putting up a fight for fear of being eviscerated in the media, taken down, and taken out of office by the 'thugs. This is what happened to California's previous Secretary of State, Kevin Shelley. He fought back against Diebold and was skewered for it by the repugs and the corrupt media (SF Chronicle and Sacramento Bee, especially). They took him down on trumped up charges, and even went after him on the federal level.

He was forced to resign. He couldn't afford to keep fighting.
We now have a new, Ahhnold-appointed, repug SoS who is secretly trying to re-certify the election-stealing Diebold machines.

No one stood by Shelley when the repugs were relentlessly attacking him.
Unless Dems are willing to stand up -- and stand together, that scenario could be played out again and again.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:54 AM
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14. When Kerry didn't speak up after the election,
when Conyers was the only one to say anything about the obvious fraud in that election, the only conclusion to draw was that the Dems were afraid their dirty tricks would be exposed as well.

Some say Dem fraud goes back to the Kennedy election in 1960.

I honestly believe they ALL cheat. Do I think it's okay? Hell no. But when no one spoke up last year, this was the obvious conclusion. And a LOT of people agree with me. I am just one of the few brave enough to talk about it.
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SmileMaker Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 09:45 PM
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8. When I met Dean last month in NJ, he mentioned the GAO report!
He also complimented the Faux News - we distory, you comply t-shirt I had on. I begged him to talk about e-voting and the GAO report during his media appearances and he assured me he would. Perhaps they are coming up with some kind of coordinated strategy to 'catapult' the non-propaganda about the heart of our democracy.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 09:49 PM
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9. I heard he talked about the GAO report. Glad he did.
:hi:
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 10:18 PM
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10. Thank you for pleading with him to address the voting machines issue --
and the GAO report! He was so brave and outspoken prior to being made head of the DNC. (I was a big-time "Deaniac".)
I hope he listens to you and the rest of us, who keep screaming about this outrage.

Last week, Bernie Sanders was on Thom Hartmann's show, saying that he didn't think that this month's election outcome in Ohio was suspicious. (?!!!) I know he's an Independent, but jeez!!! With the exception of the corrupt neocons, all of those in Congress with any remaining sense of patriotism, should be raging about this.

I hope the Truth does get catapulted -- and fast!
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 07:49 PM
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4. Thanks for posting.
Woo Hoo!!!

I will stay up late to watch Howard.
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Gronk Groks Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 09:23 PM
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7. Thanks for the heads up, DVR will be programmed...
...Howard Dean should of been the candidate in 2004. :kick:
Toast to the hope that he will unleash both barrels at Bush when Leno gives him the air time.:toast: :beer:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 10:29 PM
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11. Kick
:bounce:
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