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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:04 PM
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after the stench left by bushco, which repubs will be viable in 2008?
in another thread i was trying to determine which repubs would try to succeed bush in 2008. this administration is getting more and more reviled by the day. and the republican party is losing support as a result.

personally, i think wesley clark will be our guy in 2008. but, who do the repukes have that they can stand up against someone like clark (or any strong dem)?

any repubs that have become associated with bushco will probably be too toxic by then....after all, there's still 3 years left for bushco to continue to decompose and rot and stink.

who will they run?

cheney? his image is totally fried after plamegate and torturegate and besides his ticker won't last much longer.

frist? too damaged by insider trading scandals.

mccain? too weak....he let rove piss all over him and still hugs chimpy whenever he sees him

giulliani? he's laden with infidelity issues and related scandals...giulliani makes clinton look like an altar boy

newt? yeah, right.

santorum? he'll be run out of the senate on a rail next year...he's already a joke.

who do they have that could possibly be a serious candidate? would they dare run jebby?
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:06 PM
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1. McCain
Somehow, he manages to keep his reputation as a maverick despite having the brown nose
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:09 PM
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2. yeah, he may be the best they got.......
....but he's such a shitty campaigner, i can't see him getting through the primaries let alone a presidential contest.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:26 PM
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11. Bingo
McCain is the MSM's chosen favorite, and they do and will address him as slavishly as they did Junior before him. He will be portrayed as A Man For All The People, strong in the fight against terra, a military giant, etc etc, ad nauseum. Get ready, it's already started. My condolences to the hapless Dems who run against him in '08... we'd better nominate the very best we've got, and it ain't HRC!
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 08:01 PM
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13. If that bump on the left side of his face gets any bigger......
he'll really be known as a two faced politician. He may not physically be a viable candidate in '08.:evilgrin:
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:11 PM
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3. Maybe Condi lice. ???
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:17 PM
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4. oh yeah.....the southern whites just can't wait to go out and vote for...
..condy. :sarcasm:

no, she doesn't stand a chance.

she's dumb, she looks uncomfortable when she's confronted by the press, she's transparent when she lies, she's a corporate whore...in other words, she has everything going for her as a repuke except for two things....she's african american and she's a woman. the republican base (the rednecks, the fundies, the uneducated trailer trash) would stay home on election day before they would vote for condy.

anyways, that's what i think.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:18 PM
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5. It's not like the dems have a lot of good candidates either.
The Greens, on the other hand do.

Gyre
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:24 PM
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6. you're joking right?
i agree in a perfect world, the greens would win presidential elections, but they have no chance....no third party does. the best thing for the greens to do is build an alliance with the dems and help pull the civic debate back to the left.

there are plenty of good strong dem candidates....plenty of intelligent, articulate and passionate people in the party.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:33 PM
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7. Jebbie, of course
His Mama thinks he's next in line for the office that the family is entitled to. He's currying favor with the GOP lunatic base of religious wack jobs every chance he gets and, of course, he's mentioned overseas that he "wouldn't rule out" a run in 2008. He hasn't mentioned it here, of course, because he doesn't want to be a target of close scrutiny too soon. He's already got his campaign all lined up, "I'm not my brother." That may be enough for the witless.

After Jebbie, the family reasons, there is Prescott, a pretty boy who hasn't yet had his ugliness writ large upon his face but who is just as crooked as the rest of them.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:39 PM
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9. but don't you think the bush name will be synonymous with.....
garbage and corruption after chimpy is done with this term?
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:31 PM
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12. Jeb would be a fool to run in '08...
... he would LOSE, big time. The country as a whole will be disgusted and finished with the Bushies come 2008, and rightly so.
Jeb will have two choices in '08: accept the office of VP running mate to a stronger, less objectionable Repub, or if he's determined to take the brass ring, sit it out until 2012 or 2016.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 09:34 PM
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16. It will be Jeb
Count on it. Remember, Jeb is the "smart" one of the Bush family. The one who was considered most "Presidential". If Jeb runs, that means instant BIG corporate money. The Dobson/Falwell/Robertson wing of the Republican Party (which, of course, controls the party) will back him in a heartbeat.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 06:14 AM
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17. Then he's a fool
Rank and file Repubs won't vote for him in '08, and this time the fundies and Big Money don't have the numbers to push him through. He'll go down hard in the primaries and never recover.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:38 PM
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8. Chuck Hagel
The fundies may not be thrilled, the neocons probably hate him, but the party's run by the fiscal corporate feudalists, and they'll grin and bear it just fine.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:21 PM
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10. Any of them. With Diebold, All Things Are Possible
They could even run Darth Cheney and he'd "win"
thanks to Diebold.


We make democracy DIE
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 08:03 PM
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14. Huckabee ?
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tirechewer Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 09:29 PM
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15. None of them
I don't know about anyone else, but the Bush administration has been so corrupt, anti life and just plain evil that I'm off anyone who calls himself a Republican. It may be irrational, but I have simply had enough. I don't have a long enough life to sift through a ton of chaff to fine one possibly not rotten kernel of wheat. McCain I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. He has some real anger management issues and he wants to increase the number of troops in Iraq. For me that's a deal breaker even if I were inclined to consider a Republican. Bush has ruined this country to the point where it will take years and years to simply recover, much less grow and prosper.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:46 AM
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18. hopefully none of them
but sadly - probably quite a few

consider this:

-- most people vote for the incumbent, unless there is some huge reason to be pissed off at the incumbent. People have short memories, do the "huge reason" would have to hit the papers within a month or so of the election. Although House and Senate are "fed" positions - most people look at them more "locally" as opposed to "nationally"

-- repugs have a year to reframe and re-spin any objections people may have for voting for them

-- Dems have established a pattern of hitting hard and then apologizing/backing down. Which leaves voters wondering "If dems won't stand up for themselves, what makes me think they will stand up for me?"

-- repugs have cornered the mud and smear markets. Dems use logic, facts and figures for the basis of their agenda items and wrongly assume reason will prevail. repugs know that mud sticks and the hell with facts and figures.

-- repugs will drag out "FAMILY VALUES" issues. this is something dems have yet to overcome.

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